Interest builds around possible changes to NASCAR schedule

DewChaser988 said:
Well some tracks should lose 2nd dates if they can't get fans to show up (Dover, Texas). What looks better? One Cup date with a full house, or two Cup dates with half empty grandstands
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From their statements today, to me it sounds should and will are two different things. I would feel better now wagering that no track will lose a date in 21.
 
soon it is going to be Nascar and SMI with Brian's buy out taking place. I wonder if ISC will irritatingly continue to be used by some. Maybe call it plate ISC?
 
The Truck race there is one of the higher-attended races in the series as well, especially for a standalone. Not sure about this year but they had about 16K and 15K for the 2017 and 2018 Truck events.

 
I would think Cup Racing at Gateway is more realistic at this point than Nashville or Rockingham both of which have gone dark at the moment...haven’t heard anything for either in months
 
Gateway would be a great track for Cup very similar to New Hampshire. Long straights with slow and flat turns. Cup cars would turn a lap in about 32 seconds, also requiring a short race similar to New Hampshire. Probably 240 laps/300 miles.
 
For IndyCar, Gateway is a single-groove track in the extreme. Often the leader catches up to the tail-enders and just holds position... because he can't get by to lap the backmarkers. So why do we think that would make for good Cup racing?
 
LewTheShoe said:
For IndyCar, Gateway is a single-groove track in the extreme. Often the leader catches up to the tail-enders and just holds position... because he can't get by to lap the backmarkers. So why do we think that would make for good Cup racing?
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It has been pretty much a single lane track for the trucks also.
 
LewTheShoe said:
For IndyCar, Gateway is a single-groove track in the extreme. Often the leader catches up to the tail-enders and just holds position... because he can't get by to lap the backmarkers. So why do we think that would make for good Cup racing?
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Large amounts of braking would make it a good race, imo. Indycars do use the brakes there but not much. With bulky stock cars it'd be a game of chicken to see who brakes last and dives into the corner.
 
Which is why if you want a Cup date, threaten to take NASCAR to court over anti trust violations. It worked for Kentucky and Texas
 
LewTheShoe said:
For IndyCar, Gateway is a single-groove track in the extreme. Often the leader catches up to the tail-enders and just holds position... because he can't get by to lap the backmarkers. So why do we think that would make for good Cup racing?
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I think that track is to fast for indy cars and the only way is on the bottom. Ive seen trucks and xfinity and they have good two groove racing. It would be worth a shot.
 
AuzGrams said:
Because theres too many markets/tracks with 2 dates? For all we know ISC & SMI will be making no changes.
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To be fair...tracks and schedule was never an issue that was floated or even brought up before the on track product started suffering (I disagree with that opinion, I’m not a fan of this particular aero package however you have to acknowledge that thinking is out there. ) I just think it works both ways...there was never a problem with the schedule really I mean until you started having places like New Hampshire, Kansas, and Texas get 2 dates. Hell I even remember Fontana having two dates at one point. I just think the schedule is least of the worries right now changing things just to change things got the sport into the jam it’s in now...(Changing the Daytona July 4th race is going to be a huge mistake. July at Indianapolis is a death sentence for that track) and I agree with you in that ISC/SMI won’t be making any significant changes, that talk has gone silent in the last few months.
 
Team Penske said:
Why do people always want to try new tracks? How does that help Nascar stability?
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I don’t think it’s anything more than 1) stability in NASCAR’s case could also be interpreted as stale by some and many want to see some more new life breathed into the schedule a la the ROVAL and 2) Gateway has seen a recent resurgence that could realistically make it an attractive market for NASCAR.

It was repaved only two years ago so it should only get better from here.
 
St. Louis is pretty crazy about racing as well.
Spotter22 said:
Hurricane season Starts in May and ends in November.
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Late August to September is when the Atlantic and Gulf are at its highest temperatures creating more activity. It usually tapers off early October and November is usually the "tail-end" of the season.

Moving the second Daytona race to August was very questionable. School starts around that time as well. I'll still attend though, hopefully nature can be a bit kinder than that July race.:D
 
DewChaser988 said:
Yes, but August-October is the peak of the season, when you are statistically more likely to have major storms, owing to the higher sea surface temperatures in the Gulf and Atlantic
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Lived on the coast of South Carolina my entire life and the bottom line is you cant predict them and you cant let them run your life or business. Look at it this way, Lightning stopped the race from finishing this year, its the weather, you cant predict it.
 
Spotter22 said:
Im quite schooled in the Hurricane class. Lived on the coast of South Carolina my entire life and the bottom line is you cant predict them and you cant let them run your life or business. Look at it this way, Lightning stopped the race from finishing this year, its the weather, you cant predict it.
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I'm familiar with Hurricanes too, I'm a Florida boy after all.
Yes that is true, but you do have to be smart about scheduling, while no you can't predict Hurricanes, you can look at data and probability, and determine when Hurricanes are LIKELY to hit.

Possible Weather problems aside, I don't think NASCAR will get the unpredictability they want with Daytona as the finale. The race will likely be a total snoozer, a single file freight train. As most of the drivers already in, will have no incentive to go for it
 
DewChaser988 said:
I'm familiar with Hurricanes too, I'm a Florida boy after all.
Yes that is true, but you do have to be smart about scheduling, while no you can't predict Hurricanes, you can look at data and probability, and determine when Hurricanes are LIKELY to hit.

Possible Weather problems aside, I don't think NASCAR will get the unpredictability they want with Daytona as the finale. The race will likely be a total snoozer, a single file freight train. As most of the drivers already in, will have no incentive to go for it
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If they are in why wouldnt they go for it and the ones who arent certainly will.
 
DewChaser988 said:
You also can't get them if you are caught up in The Big One
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So are you really gonna argue the point that stage points are valuable but racing for them isnt worth it? You cant do both. I promise you the other 20 + cars who are outside looking in will be going for it and thats reason enough for it not to be "boring".
 
"Hurricanes and tropical storms are irregular visitors to coastal South Carolina. In the period, 1851-2016, only 38 tropical cyclones have made landfall on the South Carolina coast (24 hurricanes, 9 tropical/sub-tropical storms, 5 tropical depressions). Of these, ten were of Category 2 to Category 4 intensity".

http://www.dnr.sc.gov/climate/sco/Tropics/hurricanes_affecting_sc.php

I was born and raised in Florida and we know a little something about Hurricanes. We're a narrow state where they can hit the east coast and also devastate the west coast and vice versa. They've even hit in the Key's and traversed the entire state to our Northern border with Georgia and Alabama. A lot of the 500 that we've had gave us a double, triple and even a quadruple destructive whammy.

"The List of Florida hurricanes encompasses approximately 500 tropical or subtropical cyclones that affected the state of Florida. More storms hit Florida than any other U.S. state,[1] and since 1851 only eighteen hurricane seasons passed without a known storm impacting the state. Collectively, cyclones that hit the region have resulted in over 10,000 deaths, most of which occurring prior to the start of hurricane hunter flights in 1943. Additionally, the cumulative impact from the storms totaled over US$216.1 billion in damage (2018 dollars), primarily from Hurricane Andrew, Hurricane Irma and Hurricane Michael in the 1992, 2017, and 2018 seasons".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Florida_hurricanes
 
As a native Hoosier, I'll state that May is a rotten month to have an Indy Car event in Indiana, but they have been doing it that way for 103 years, and somehow the world has not come to an end.
 
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