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Tough times, and they all have to work together to keep the show on the road. Chip shouldn't have to pay the price for what his driver did off the racetrack. That's dumb. Injuries already have precidents with drivers missing races and allowed to get waivers.Whats the big deal? They have the majority of the season to go and both will have to make it in. Its no gimmie.
Yeah I'd like to know why Chip hired an "idiot for a driver". He should have known everything that would come out of his mouth.Tough times, and they all have to work together to keep the show on the road. Chip shouldn't have to pay the price for what his driver did off the racetrack. That's dumb. Injuries already have precidents with drivers missing races and allowed to get waivers.
Yeah I'd like to know why Chip hired an "idiot for a driver". He should have known everything that would come out of his mouth.
Yeah when Chip was going over Larson's stats, he should have read the small print at the bottom that said this driver could use racial slurs five years down the road.Yeah I'd like to know why Chip hired an "idiot for a driver". He should have known everything that would come out of his mouth.
Newman makes sense, if waivers are going to be a thing.
Kenseth doesn't make a lick of sense and proves again NASCAR is willing to use their "discretion" to tip the scales in the direction they want it to go without any internal logic.
They will say it was due to "extraordinary circumstances", and that's pretty much the description of 2020. One long extraordinary circumstance. So who really cares I guess.
Maybe just end the waiver charade and go with the top 30 requirement across the board. @FLRacingFan is right that nobody is going to voluntarily skip races, especially with the charter requirements and how TV money works.
Tipping the scales without any internal logic? Internal logic is helping one of your long-running teams in the sport retain valuable sponsorship as to not have a solid car or potentially a whole organization drop out of the field. What happened with Larson is unprecedented and was certainly an extraordinary circumstance.
Also think of all the employees at CGR that work their tails off building and preparing those 42 cars every week. They didn’t do anything wrong. Is it fair to strip them of their shot at the playoffs? NASCAR is a team sport and this whole decision goes deeper than just Larson and Kenseth, despite us seeing only their faces in the media.
Wins the thread ^^^Tipping the scales without any internal logic? Internal logic is helping one of your long-running teams in the sport retain valuable sponsorship as to not have a solid car or potentially a whole organization drop out of the field. What happened with Larson is unprecedented and was certainly an extraordinary circumstance.
Also think of all the employees at CGR that work their tails off building and preparing those 42 cars every week. They didn’t do anything wrong. Is it fair to strip them of their shot at the playoffs? NASCAR is a team sport and this whole decision goes deeper than just Larson and Kenseth, despite us seeing only their faces in the media.
If we had the old points system we wouldn't even need to worry about waivers. Whoever has the most points at the end of the year is the champion.
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Why SHOULDN'T Matt Kenseth get a waiver?
Truthfully, I don't believe in the "run all 36 races" rule to start with.
They gave Kyle Busch a waiver for missing 11 races.
Anything goes.
How many did Tony Stewart miss?They gave Kyle Busch a waiver for missing 11 races.
Anything goes.
I believe I've passed the age of consciousness and righteous rageAs much as I didn't like that, at least that was for a reason that was stipulated when the rule was put in place. NASCAR just pulled one out of their ass with the Kenseth ruling. Just as in regular life, none of these rulings happen in a vacuum and it's NEVER the end of something, only the begining. Just wait and see what stupid ass reasons will be given for seeking waivers going forward.
As much as I didn't like that, at least that was for a reason that was stipulated when the rule was put in place. NASCAR just pulled one out of their ass with the Kenseth ruling. Just as in regular life, none of these rulings happen in a vacuum and it's NEVER the end of something, only the begining. Just wait and see what stupid ass reasons will be given for seeking waivers going forward.
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I found that just surviving was a noble fight
I once believed in causes too
I had my pointless point of view
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You start that, and you will get the racing version of the PGA where you pay big money to attend so you can watch guys you have hardly heard of trying to break into the top 125 while Tiger, Phil, Rory and company are at home sitting on the beach. Think John Deere Open.
NASCAR literally calls it the “Except In Rare Circumstances clause”. How is this not a rare circumstance? Also if Matt can win a race (after having four less opportunities to do so) and make the top 30 in points (also having had less opportunities to score them in the first place) then why shouldn’t he be let in? That would be doing more with less. Again, that is taking a harder path to get to the playoffs, not an easier one.
NASCAR drivers aren't staying at home willfully. Too many sponsorship commitments, plus these guys are born racers who will race any chance they get.
Plus, this sport doesn't have a Tiger Woods right now. Kevin Harvick, Kyle Busch, Joey Logano, and Chase Elliott aren't going to move the needle that much.
Drivers get fired or leave rides all the time. the ONLY thing different here is the REASON the driver got fired, and that shouldn't have anything to do with anything.
So why are we talking about running less than 36 races if everybody wants to has to show up every week?
So why are we talking about running less than 36 races if everybody wants to has to show up every week?
Because I think the option to sit out a race, for whatever reason, should be there.
You go first.That pretty much summarizes this whole forum, so why we just shut the thing down and walk away?
You go first.
You can have an opinion, but I can pan it also.I'm not the one complaining that somebody has a different opinion than my own.
Please.I'm not the one complaining that somebody has a different opinion than my own.
Please.
You never STOP complaining.