NBCSN going away?

Charlie Spencer said:
I remember saying about being charmed by the naivety of those who thought the Olympics would come off as (re)scheduled.
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You evidently werent swayed enough by the charm lol. Who would have thought an entire network would decide to go see ya later because of a 4 year event. Crazy to me.
 
FLRacingFan said:
NASCAR’s gonna be fine. Most, if not all, races will go to USA. I would even wager their ratings will go up as USA is more widely distributed than NBCSN to begin with. NASCAR is too big to be taken off of traditional TV for now, and there’s probably language written into the contract for that.
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You are right on both, USA is 90mil compared to NBCS/N at 78, my understanding the current TV deal prohibits any Cup races from being streamed only, so that will take us thru '24 before we in theory might see anything moving over to streaming.
 
donthaveanickname said:
I don't think the Olympics will be cancelled. There is going to be limited attendance in the stadiums and probably only Japanese fans allowed but if the whole event was cancelled it would surprise me.
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Its being reported by multiply sources that Japan has privately concluded they will be canceled.
 
If I have to download another streaming service to watch NASCAR, I won’t be watching NASCAR.

The whole reason I picked up streaming years ago was to cut costs. More product for less money. If I purchase multiple services, I’m right back where I started.
 
jws926 said:
Its being reported by multiply sources that Japan has privately concluded they will be canceled.
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We'll have to wait and see, personally I don't care anyway cause I don't watch it anyway...

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AndyMarquisLive said:
I hope Trackpass is absorbed into Peacock. NBC's actually consolidating all its streaming services.
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That's the hope.

Not to mention, let's not forget Comcast bought rights to broadcast Moto GP over here in the US as well.

Comcast is eventually going to have to offload some of these racing disciplines. Not to mention, NASCAR has Xfinity as a primary sponsor on the Cup side and "Xfinity" Series. They are tied at the hip until 2024. We'll see how this plays out because moving to USA might be a good move in the long run.
 
AndyMarquisLive said:
I hope Trackpass is absorbed into Peacock. NBC's actually consolidating all its streaming services.
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Or maybe the races will you know, be apart of the free part of Peacock. No idea why no one is thinking of that. Some stuff is actually free on it..


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ChexOrWrex said:
If I have to download another streaming service to watch NASCAR, I won’t be watching NASCAR.

The whole reason I picked up streaming years ago was to cut costs. More product for less money. If I purchase multiple services, I’m right back where I started.
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It’s why this all will eventually fail. Having to have so many subscriptions will lead to people leaving streaming and going back to cable/satellite
 
Mispeedway15 said:
It’s why this all will eventually fail. Having to have so many subscriptions will lead to people leaving streaming and going back to cable/satellite
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Sheer ease of use is why I haven't seriously considered leaving cable. One source, one remote, everything we watch in one place (at the moment).

My parents are visiting. Mom mentioned some of the shows she likes on HGTV are going to "some new channel and how do I get it?" It turns out they're going to a streaming platform (she didn't know which one). I've been dreading explaining streaming to my well-over-80 parents; I don't think I did a very good job. I'm pretty sure I botched the concept of different input sources.
 
Charlie Spencer said:
Sheer ease of use is why I haven't seriously considered leaving cable. One source, one remote, everything we watch in one place (at the moment).

My parents are visiting. Mom mentioned some of the shows she likes on HGTV are going to "some new channel and how do I get it?" It turns out they're going to a streaming platform (she didn't know which one). I've been dreading explaining streaming to my well-over-80 parents; I don't think I did a very good job. I'm pretty sure I botched the concept of different input sources.
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Yup. I haven’t cut the cord yet, because it’s so easy for me to watch what I want when I want because I’m still on cable. I’ll be a trendsetter when everything inevitably heads back this way
 
Charlie Spencer said:
Sheer ease of use is why I haven't seriously considered leaving cable. One source, one remote, everything we watch in one place (at the moment).

My parents are visiting. Mom mentioned some of the shows she likes on HGTV are going to "some new channel and how do I get it?" It turns out they're going to a streaming platform (she didn't know which one). I've been dreading explaining streaming to my well-over-80 parents; I don't think I did a very good job. I'm pretty sure I botched the concept of different input sources.
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Simple. “Internet TV” is how I explained it to my family. Internet has been publicly available for 30 years, it’s not a new concept.

As for ease of use, it’s still one source. Unplug your cable and plug in your streaming device/box/stick. “Heres all the channels you love without ever talking to a rep every few months when the bill goes up, you dont need to worry about package deals, and it costs 50% less.”

SOLD

Everyone I know that still uses cable usually also has a house phone because they are unwilling to change. It has little to do with ease of use and more to do with “I’ve done it this way for X years so I’ll keep doing it”.
 
ChexOrWrex said:
Simple. “Internet TV” is how I explained it to my family. Internet has been publicly available for 30 years, it’s not a new concept.
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It may not be new, but that doesn't mean they're familiar with it. Mom hasn't had a reason to use the Internet; Dad gets confused over how the same e-mails can be 'on' his laptop, his tablet, AND my laptop when he's visiting.
ChexOrWrex said:
As for ease of use, it’s still one source. Unplug your cable and plug in your streaming device/box/stick
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And then which streaming service or services do I choose? How do I choose between them on the stick?
ChexOrWrex said:
“Heres all the channels you love ...
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Which service has TCM, both Hallmarks*, and Golf?

*After all, I'm not the only one in the house.
ChexOrWrex said:
Everyone I know that still uses cable usually also has a house phone because they are unwilling to change.
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Yes, we do still have a wired phone as our a primary number. It's cheap, around $5 a month. I have found a few personal uses for the cell I'm given at work but should it go away, those apps aren't worth paying a cell bill myself. What I'm saving on cell charges makes up for at least part of the cable bill.

As to unwilling to change from cable, I admit inertia is a factor, although not the only one. It's not so much unwilling as uninterested. This unopened Roku stick has been on my desk for at least two months now. Maybe something will force me to open the box one day; maybe if I get quarantined? But even if I was unwilling to change, so what? It's my money.
 
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Charlie Spencer said:
It may not be new, but that doesn't mean they're familiar with it. Mom hasn't had a reason to use the Internet; Dad gets confused over how the same e-mails can be 'on' his laptop, his tablet, AND my laptop when he's visiting.

And then which streaming service or services do I choose? How do I choose between them on the stick?

Which service has TCM, both Hallmarks*, and Golf?

*After all, I'm not the only one in the house.

Yes, we do still have a wired phone as our a primary number. It's cheap, around $5 a month. I have found a few personal uses for the cell I'm given at work but should it go away, those apps aren't worth paying a cell bill myself. What I'm saving on cell charges makes up for at least part of the cable bill.

As to unwilling to change from cable, I admit inertia is a factor, although not the only one. It's not so much unwilling as uninterested. This unopened Roku stick has been on my desk for at least two months now. Maybe something will force me to open the box one day; maybe if I get quarantined? But even if I was unwilling to change, so what? It's my money.
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Choosing a streaming service is like choosing a cable provider. Theres more options, so more competition, therefore the prices are cheaper.

I’m not sure about the others but Sling TV carries Golf in their sports package, TCM and Hallmark. No contracts so you unsubscribe or resubscribe to the service at will for 0 cost. At most you’ll probably pay $45/mo and the lowest tier is $30/mo. Depending on what sports are in season we add and drop packages for minimal cost through the year.

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ChexOrWrex said:
Choosing a streaming service is like choosing a cable provider. Theres more options, so more competition, therefore the prices are cheaper.
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I've never lived anywhere with access to more than one cable operator at a time, excluding satellite. But even with choices between cable companies and satellite, there's a near-complete overlap in the channels they offer.

My understanding is that most streaming services offer only a relatively limited selection of 'channels' compared to cable, and that I'd need to subscribe to multiple services to get all the channels we usually watch. If I'm mistaken, I'll take your word. Are all services available with all sticks / adapters / hardware models?
 
ChexOrWrex said:
Everyone I know that still uses cable usually also has a house phone because they are unwilling to change. It has little to do with ease of use and more to do with “I’ve done it this way for X years so I’ll keep doing it”.
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A lot of people I know who have landlines still do so because its how their alarm system calls out in case of an emergency(break in, smoke detectors going off, etc) and it's cheaper to keep the landline since its basically a free part of the cable package when you're already paying for internet and cable than it is to replace the alarm system with a new one that will have a wireless connection.
 
Charlie Spencer said:
I've never lived anywhere with access to more than one cable operator at a time, excluding satellite. But even with choices between cable companies and satellite, there's a near-complete overlap in the channels they offer.

My understanding is that most streaming services offer only a relatively limited selection of 'channels' compared to cable, and that I'd need to subscribe to multiple services to get all the channels we usually watch. If I'm mistaken, I'll take your word. Are all services available with all sticks / adapters / hardware models?
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You mentioned 4 channels you’d need out of the hundreds that cable offers. The idea for streaming is paying significantly less for a package of channels that most people already watch. Instead of paying for 300 channels while only watching 3% of them, youre paying for 30-50 channels and watching 30%+ of them.

Most popular services work on all streaming hardware.


StewartHaas-Gibbs Racing said:
A lot of people I know who have landlines still do so because its how their alarm system calls out in case of an emergency(break in, smoke detectors going off, etc) and it's cheaper to keep the landline since its basically a free part of the cable package when you're already paying for internet and cable than it is to replace the alarm system with a new one that will have a wireless connection.
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Any security system provider will call a mobile phone number. Bundling cable with a landline phone is archaic as hell and a simple monopolistic money grab. The demand for those type of bundles is way down but yet the monthly prices rise every year because a “promotion has ended” and you have a fight with a “retention department rep”. **** that noise.
 
ChexOrWrex said:
Any security system provider will call a mobile phone number.
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Some alarms need a landline to call out to the security provider so they can then alert you at whatever number you want.

If you have a very expensive wired security system it can be expensive to convert it so that it can make wireless calls to the security provider instead of it just dialing out a call to the security provider.
 
StewartHaas-Gibbs Racing said:
Some alarms need a landline to call out to the security provider so they can then alert you at whatever number you want.

If you have a very expensive wired security system it can be expensive to convert it so that it can make wireless calls to the security provider instead of it just dialing out a call to the security provider.
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If anyone has fallen for that scam, I don’t pity them. Need a landline number so you can be alerted on any other number? What a joke.

If you have a very expensive security system, you also need to catch up to look into Simplisafe, Ring, Nest, etc...
 
ChexOrWrex said:
If anyone has fallen for that scam, I don’t pity them. Need a landline number so you can be alerted on any other number? What a joke.
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It's not a scam. Some older expensive hard wired security systems simply function this way. They need a landline to dial out because this is all that existed prior to the mid to late 00s.

Don't know why you're trying to make it out like it's some scam, its the technology of that time but if the system still works there's no sense in replacing it. Even more so if you're already paying for cable and internet because the phone line essentially becomes free at that point. My cable bill for a good tv package, a really high speed internet and the phone is a little over $100 a month at this point because where I'm at cable companies have been offering better deals to compete.

Personally, I would never replace a professionally installed system with systems like ring or simplisafe, nest was discontinued last year cause google dropped it. These types of systems simply don't rival a professionally installed hard wired system in my opinion and I would consider it a downgrade to go to one of them now. When someone's current system finally dies it would be wiser to just replace the main control box and key pads to an upgraded wireless system than to ever setup simplisafe or ring.
 
NASCAR on USA Network is making me think of when it was NASCAR on TNT (hope it ends up being that).

Quick look at USA programming and it seems a good landing spot for NASCAR on a channel in need of new content, combined with the possibility of reaching a larger audience in numbers compared to NBCSN.
 
So USA network is still just a cable network?
I get cup and xfinity on TSN in Canada on satellite for $5 a month
plus hockey curling and most other sports. The negative part is I still have to pay $60
a month for basic satellite.
 
Some insight here:

profootballtalk.nbcsports.com

NBCSN's looming exit changes little for NBC Sports, PFT Live

The news that NBCSN will wind down by the end of the year was met by some with confusion and surprise (and, in a few cases, superfluous condolences).
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Basically, NBC is trying to make USA more like TNT. And they're going all in on Peacock as well.
 
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