2024 Next Gen Car

Big John Kordic said:
I don’t recall how flat they were prior to this gen, TBH I never paid much attention to it? I just remember this car having the entire underside flat/sealed, an old IMSA GTP car was my first thought upon seeing it.

Yes, its design sucks it to the pavement, so long as it’s going forward. The roof flaps work, work very well, we’ve all seen replays of cars heading for a flip and dropping back down because of them. That being said, once a car gets off the ground enough…no flappers are going to keep it down.
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Yeah the flaps aren't 100%. A car that ramps off the hood of another is going to fly no matter what, but that doesn't mean they quit trying to make it harder to do so.
 
The poor quality of racing has been laid solidly at the feet of the Next Gen car. Going to an all new design won't be cheap or quick to accomplish, so can it be whipped into shape?
Here's what I would do if I were the Grand Poo-Bah of NASCAR:

Required spec parts:
Center Section (Cabin)
Front & Rear clips
Transaxle
Current composite body panels, eliminating the rear defuser <sp>
All previous safety equipment including aero items

New things:
800 hp packages using current engine architecture with appropriate plates for Super Speedways
17" or 16" wheels with new tires offering taller sidewalls then currently used. This addresses the lack of feel the drivers have complained about while leaving room for bigger brakes than the pre-Nex Gen ones

Areas for "innovation" as Junior calls it
Teams can run previous Nex Gen suspension, resized brakes (for new smaller wheels), & shocks with the freedom to modify them.
OR
All these items can be sourced or fabricated by the teams and run subject to safety standards

New rules for minimum rear ride height and maximum splitter height (no more "Carolina Squat")

Nothing like this would ever happen but...what would you do? We got some good technical knowledge in here, lets hear it.
 
Hawaii808 said:
The poor quality of racing has been laid solidly at the feet of the Next Gen car. Going to an all new design won't be cheap or quick to accomplish, so can it be whipped into shape?
Here's what I would do if I were the Grand Poo-Bah of NASCAR:

Required spec parts:
Center Section (Cabin)
Front & Rear clips
Transaxle
Current composite body panels, eliminating the rear defuser <sp>
All previous safety equipment including aero items

New things:
800 hp packages using current engine architecture with appropriate plates for Super Speedways
17" or 16" wheels with new tires offering taller sidewalls then currently used. This addresses the lack of feel the drivers have complained about while leaving room for bigger brakes than the pre-Nex Gen ones

Areas for "innovation" as Junior calls it
Teams can run previous Nex Gen suspension, resized brakes (for new smaller wheels), & shocks with the freedom to modify them.
OR
All these items can be sourced or fabricated by the teams and run subject to safety standards

New rules for minimum rear ride height and maximum splitter height (no more "Carolina Squat")

Nothing like this would ever happen but...what would you do? We got some good technical knowledge in here, lets hear it.
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Pretty much what I suggested in my could the next gen be used in ARCA thread. The current configuration sucks. Give the teams permission to test/modify and would be fixed inside 3 months.
 
Hawaii808 said:
Current composite body panels, eliminating the rear defuser <sp>
(Required) All previous safety equipment including aero items
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Those are mutually contradictory. The rear diffuser is an aerodynamic piece. I recall it's there to reduce the flow of dirty air onto the trailing car, making it less difficult for the trailing car to pass.
 
Charlie Spencer said:
Those are mutually contradictory. The rear diffuser is an aerodynamic piece. I recall it's there to reduce the flow of dirty air onto the trailing car, making it less difficult for the trailing car to pass.
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Ya got me there, I was thinking more of the roof flaps and the new A Pillar flaps. Bigger brains than I have suggested that losing the defusser would help. But we'd never know until it's tried. I mean IRL not computer simulations or wind tunnels.
 
Hawaii808 said:
Ya got me there, I was thinking more of the roof flaps and the new A Pillar flaps. Bigger brains than I have suggested that losing the defusser would help. But we'd never know until it's tried. I mean IRL not computer simulations or wind tunnels.
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I'm positive the membership will correct me if I'm wrong but I recall the original prototypes for this car didn't have the difuser, that it was added after the first round of on-track tests.
 
More misconceptions about the car. Here is somebody who has raced both competitive sports cars and Nascar's Next Gen car. Listen closely. Unlike Dale Jr's opinion, the car isn't a sports car. One more time...this car was built to be hard to drive. The drivers wanted it that way.
 
Charlie Spencer said:
Slap 'Chevrolet' decals front and rear and don't worry about a specific model name. The race car won't look anything like its street counterpart anyway; why continue pretending?
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Agreed, I think we need to move on from this idea that stock cars need to resemble actual production models. Most manufacturers are moving away from traditional sedans anyway (which I hate), and I sure as hell don’t wanna see SUVs and mini vans in the Cup Series. They should just be advertised as generic Toyota, Chevy and Ford race cars. No specific model.
 
The 2026 Chevrolet?

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rd45usa said:
New Chevy body change coming for 2026. Don’t know what it will be, currently Chevy has no sedan in production.
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NASCAR says ‘new Chevrolet’ coming to Cup Series

Chevrolet has campaigned the Camaro since 2018 after it replaced the SS, a rebadged Holden VF Commodore for the United
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Right now law enforcement, municipal, state, and federal agencies have few choices for vehicles. Seems all that's left domestically are SUVs & Stellantis crap. GM could step in with a new 4 door sedan with several powerplants. A 4 cylinder hybrid for consumers, an optional V6 for more power, and a LS version for all those service vehicles (let's not forget taxis). Maybe throw in a SS version for the gearheads. Not a huge segment of the market, but could be easy fleet sales.
 
Charlie Spencer said:
Serious question because I don't know LEA requirements: are electrics an option? The post Office had a contract until this administration backed off.
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I've seen EV LEA vehicles on the mainland, but they come off as a "let's see if this works" or a "public relations" thing. Going significantly EV would require lot$ and lot$ of charging station$ and tying up the vehicle while it charges. OK, I guess that's an argument against EVs for them.
 
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