The Saga of Chris Gabehart

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I wondered just what setup info could possibly be that important to the preacher? Last week Gibbs said it was a mutual decision to part ways.
 
Nascar teams have been getting personnel from each other forever. Gebhardt must have told ol' Joe what he thought about what it was like working at his place and Joe went scorched earth on Gabehardt. :D
 
I've been indirectly involved in a lawsuit like this in the past. Typically what it comes down to is that one side just has more money and can afford to hold it up long enough until the other party agrees to a settlement.
 
Typical @StandOnIt BS. If you look at the timeline Gabehart had been talking to Spire. Decides to go in with his off the wall demand with Coach. Coach tells him to screw himself. Gabehart starts grabbing all that he can get. Gets caught....and yeah, Coach is going after him as he should. Spire is lowlife stuff....this kind of **** can bite you in the ass.
 
StandOnIt said:
Nascar teams have been getting personnel from each other forever. Gebhardt must have told ol' Joe what he thought about what it was like working at his place and Joe went scorched earth on Gabehardt. :D
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Gabehart knew what he could and could not do. It's called a contract. This isn't typical stuff, but you post enough ****, you might find a couple of followers to like you.
 
It's obvious that the felon is at the bottom of this. The tall one in the 77 gave Rick the heads up that info was for sale hoping for a spot in the 48 when it comes available. Jeffy and Chadly have already spread the information to the Chevy cabal members. Pretty sure there is a missing lap top of Gabehart's.
 
IMO this is the last thing that this sport needs right now. We finally just got through the last lawsuit and seemed to be gaining momentum. Now this comes along....
 
Has anyone considered the role that Spire has played here? Did they know he was taking info? Was him bringing info over part of the deal?

Some of this could speak about the integrity over there as well
 
wi_racefan said:
Like I said I've been involved in something like this and from my understanding that wouldn't help. The stuff that computer people are able to extract is pretty amazing.
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Screen shot the pages onto a burner phone and then download the pictures to a laptop nobody knows exists. Edit the data so that there is little to no evidence of where the source material came from, even to the point of hand transcribing it to remove any digital trace, download the data onto a thumb drive, and destroy the burner phone and the laptop. I know the data is more sophisticated than ever, but when you have guys like Mark Martin that can rattle off their complete setup from Winchester in 1979, you have to wonder how much good locking down all of this intellectual property really does. Look at all the data (and personnel) Stewart Haas was able to take from Hendrick when they defected to Ford. I just think at some point it's pure folly to think you can keep a lid on this stuff.
 
Formerjackman said:
Screen shot the pages onto a burner phone and then download the pictures to a laptop nobody knows exists. Edit the data so that there is little to no evidence of where the source material came from, even to the point of hand transcribing it to remove any digital trace, download the data onto a thumb drive, and destroy the burner phone and the laptop. I know the data is more sophisticated than ever, but when you have guys like Mark Martin that can rattle off their complete setup from Winchester in 1979, you have to wonder how much good locking down all of this intellectual property really does. Look at all the data (and personnel) Stewart Haas was able to take from Hendrick when they defected to Ford. I just think at some point it's pure folly to think you can keep a lid on this stuff.
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Edit: I meant to say photograph the pages of data from the original laptop with the burner phone to leave no digital trace. I photograph pages off my laptops all the time, but for non-nefarious reasons.
 
I have no strong takes about this because it sounds like an internal matter that will go to court. The rule of law hasn't completely collapsed yet, so I'm willing to wait on the wheels of justice or whatever.
 
virtualbalboa said:
I have no strong takes about this because it sounds like an internal matter that will go to court. The rule of law hasn't completely collapsed yet, so I'm willing to wait on the wheels of justice or whatever.
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It's a sideshow. Unless Gibbs has a non-compete claim, it shouldn't affect Gabehart's racing activities.
 
wi_racefan said:
Has anyone considered the role that Spire has played here? Did they know he was taking info? Was him bringing info over part of the deal?

Some of this could speak about the integrity over there as well
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Agreed, but the USs are on a roll with their narrative. Do not disrupt the flow.To your point, it does speak to the integrity of Dickerson et al. doesn't it? While we are at it, let us not forget that Jeff Curtis pulled the some of the same crap when he went to RCR. Both Chevy teams for those keeping score.
 
Formerjackman said:
Screen shot the pages onto a burner phone and then download the pictures to a laptop nobody knows exists. Edit the data so that there is little to no evidence of where the source material came from, even to the point of hand transcribing it to remove any digital trace, download the data onto a thumb drive, and destroy the burner phone and the laptop. I know the data is more sophisticated than ever, but when you have guys like Mark Martin that can rattle off their complete setup from Winchester in 1979, you have to wonder how much good locking down all of this intellectual property really does. Look at all the data (and personnel) Stewart Haas was able to take from Hendrick when they defected to Ford. I just think at some point it's pure folly to think you can keep a lid on this stuff.
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Pretty standard practice in F1 to send a person on gardening leave when they split. I think the difference is that F1 is constantly changing where in theory NASCAR doesn't, but I think it does. These engineers are always searching.
 
Conover said:
Intellectual property theft, appears they have a case. Hard to see how this Toyota data would help with Chevy operations, but I don’t know enough about applying it.
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He wouldn't take it if it didn't help. Really ****** look for Gabehart if true. A weird story. Think maybe a pocket protector guy believed the hype, tried to big ball the boss, and then went darker. Some academic types don't get competition.
 
I can't see how any of the things that have been posted is anywhere close to 8 million in damages. Pretty sure preacher lost a good man. Barney lost a whole team. Doesn't change my opinion of preacher Joe in the least.
 
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