Looks like my popcorn bucket needs to be refilled.
Well, that takes the heat off the Steve Phelps deal and holding people accountable.
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Well, that takes the heat off the Steve Phelps deal and holding people accountable.
A bit early considering there has been only one race. They still have the fudging up the points later in the season though. I'm guessing/hoping it isn't as bad as the previous mess they had.
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I'm a life-long fan of Richard Petty and I think he is misses the days when he was the big dog, the days when a few drivers dominated NASCAR - glory days. I think they mostly dominated because they had advantages over the field such as a national sponsor, the technical backing from Chrysler, Ford, or GM; the NASCAR champion got the first pit stall for the entire year. They didn't have multi car teams back in the day so the team that figured out something new was able to have a dominant driver. A dominate driver could lap the field. These days the dominate drivers come from the big teams and they make up a significant number of drivers.
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I think the Chase format will make familiar championship front runners each year that will spawn rivalries and dare I say maybe a Dynasty or two if the Honcho's stick with it for a while. I do have some icky feelings from 2006-10 but thats more because my racing hero was getting his ass kicked by a guy in the same equipment on the same team, so thats on me. But I think Richard end up feeling okay about things if this format is allowed to breath for a bit while giving us a sizable sample size over time.
I haven't thought much about it overall, but I will never get over resetting the points and discriminating against the drivers below the "cut line". We see it all the time where a team can get on a hot streak and move forward. This practice of resetting the points prohibits that from happening. In fact the network tries to forget that any of them below their self imposed line are racing on the track. Every position means a lot to those lower echelon teams. A hot streak could mean multi millions to those teams.
At least now the drivers locked into the top 16 will actually be IN the top 16 when the 'regular season' ends, not 28th and gaining a dozen unearned positions.
Yeah that part is better, it was a double insult for a last place team win to knock out a team that was in the playoff group legitimately but the points reset is bogus.
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Well said.
The current system is better than the win and you are in garbage, but I also still hate the resets in any form. They disrespect the body of work and force some teams into a needless lame duck situation.
Not going to miss the gerbs and the cameras focused for half the race or more trying to get us to swallow the will he make the cut line cut off fake drama. Ruins the whole continuity of the race.
You can't build stars when the broadcasts focus on the drop-outs.
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F1 has boomed in popularity in the United States and it did so under a champion more dominant than much of even Petty's prime. I mean, you can argue that it can hurt too when it's as prolonged as it was with John Force or Sebastian Loeb, but we are a long ways away I think from a talent that is likely the greatest to ever do the thing he does being present right now to be concerned about this.
They would give Brad the crappy car if he was locked into the Championship.
It is going to happen again when they go back to fudging up the points "cut offs" at the end of the season with the latest B.S. version.
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the "they didn't give him the good stuff this week" tinfoil theories turned out to be true.
Took away the win and you are in. Now get rid of the rest of it.
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Shows that some teams didn’t understand strategy. You would get playoff points based on your regular season points finish and you can get playoff points by winning stages.
Not a good look for the teams.
You mean they win a race are in the playoffs and like Kez says they don't get the good stuff because the team focuses on their other cars getting in the playoffs, OR they load up the last place yota in a plate race and the last place car in the series wins the plate race and gets a ton of owner points, over 3 million in winnings and guarantees for next year.... that strategy? Tell me that's just peachy.
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So someone check this for me. Got it from AI. Regarding the 10 race post season. The earliest possible clinch is theoretically after the 5th Chase race (the midpoint), when the leader has enough of a points cushion that no combination of results in the remaining 5 races can be overcome by any other driver—even in the most extreme scenario (e.g., leader wins every remaining race while others maximize point
In a way I hope it is right and it happens. Nascar/TV can't stand racing to be organically scored. All three series with this nonsense.
Sounds right.
The leader has an advatage over second. Say the leader maximizes points in the first five races while the second place driver finishes last. Say they switch positions over the last five. They will have scored the same number of points but the initial points difference will still be in effect at the end. The other 14 guys will start even further behind the leader.
But the scenario requires too many conditions to occur. A lockup in race 9 or even 8 wouldn't be much if a shock.
Yep, the gerbils have a good chance of missing their big finale, but not before all of the B.S. we have to deal with before it happens. We won't be spared of that lol.
I'm just doing an off-the-cuff logic check of the 5-race clinch scenario. I'll leave the repercussions to others.
The odds of that happening are greater than their game 7 moment unless they fudge up the points some more than they have already. When I saw that they rewarded the highest finisher more bonus points after the fudge off, I knew there were good odds of a winner happening before the last race.
Think 2 or so races before the season ending. Cameras focused on the dash in-car. Gerbil Jeff saying when so in so flips the switch on the dash he wins the 2026 Championship, Letarte interrupts..yeah Jeff but did they get the starter in properly, fish or Fitch says yeah but is the battery of the motorcar charged properly, how about Lahsen behind, will he run into him if it doesn't start?