2018 R-F Race Ratings

Discussion in 'NASCAR chat' started by ToyYoda, Feb 20, 2018.

  1. ToyYoda

    ToyYoda Team Owner

    Once again, I'll be keeping track of the average ratings we give the races in the "Rate the Race" threads here. I'll be doing this with the same guidelines as last year:

    - Races will be counted on a 1-10 scale. If your rating is less than 1, it'll be counted as a 1. If it's more than 10, it'll be counted as a 10.

    - Only race ratings will be counted, ratings for the broadcast or the winner will not.

    - You will have to have seen at least most of the race for the rating to count. Ratings like "I only saw the last 10 laps, but I give it a 9" won't go into the average.

    - Overly convoluted ratings won't count. For example, a rating like "I give Stage 1 a 7, Stage 2 a 4, and Stage 3 a 6 except for the last 10 laps, which were a 9" won't be counted.

    - Ratings will only be counted out two decimal places. So in other words, a 7.71459875257 will be a 7.71.

    - The highest and lowest ratings will be dropped. This helps counter the "always a 1" or "always a 10" voters. If a race gets three 10" ratings, two of them will count toward the average

    - I'm only tracking points paying races. Exhibition races like the All-Star Race or the Duels won't be part of this.

    - I also had a chat with @Johali , since he's gonna do a Rate the Race thread for all the Xfinity races this year, I'm gonna track those as well.

    Having said all that, here's the Daytona ratings:

    Cup:

    1. Daytona (2/18): 6.71

    Xfinity:

    1. Daytona (2/17): 7.22
     
  2. ToyYoda

    ToyYoda Team Owner

    Cup:

    1. Atlanta (2/25): 8.08

    2. Daytona (2/18): 6.71

    Xfinity:

    1. Daytona (2/17): 7.22
    2. Atlanta (2/24): 6.86
     
  3. ToyYoda

    ToyYoda Team Owner

    Interesting, the Cup and Xfinity rankings are the inverse of one another so far this year...

    Cup:


    1. Atlanta (2/25): 8.08
    2. Daytona (2/18): 6.71
    3. Las Vegas (3/4): 5.67

    Xfinity:

    1. Las Vegas (3/3): 7.39
    2. Daytona (2/17): 7.22
    3. Atlanta (2/24): 6.86
     
  4. ToyYoda

    ToyYoda Team Owner

    New leader on the Cup side...

    Cup:


    1. Phoenix (3/11): 8.62
    2. Atlanta (2/25): 8.08
    3. Daytona (2/18): 6.71
    4. Las Vegas (3/4): 5.67

    Xfinity:

    1. Las Vegas (3/3): 7.39
    2. Daytona (2/17): 7.22
    3. Phoenix (3/10): 7.09
    4. Atlanta (2/24): 6.86
     
  5. dpkimmel2001

    dpkimmel2001 Team Owner

    Gonna be a tough number to beat. Not even sure old faithful, Martinsville, will be able to pull that number off.
     
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  6. ToyYoda

    ToyYoda Team Owner

    I don't know, Martinsville has gotten over 9 a couple times.
     
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  7. Larsonfan1995

    Larsonfan1995 Team Owner

    Bristol I believe was a 9 something in the spring last year too. I could be wrong, but if not it was close.
     
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  8. ToyYoda

    ToyYoda Team Owner

    Cup:

    1. Phoenix (3/11): 8.62
    2. Atlanta (2/25): 8.08
    3. Fontana (3/18): 7.10
    4. Daytona (2/18): 6.71
    5. Las Vegas (3/4): 5.67

    Xfinity:

    1. Las Vegas (3/3): 7.39
    2. Fontana (3/17): 7.28
    3. Daytona (2/17): 7.22
    4. Phoenix (3/10): 7.09
    5. Atlanta (2/24): 6.86
     
  9. ToyYoda

    ToyYoda Team Owner

    Cup:

    1. Phoenix (3/11): 8.62
    2. Atlanta (2/25): 8.08
    3. Martinsville (3/26): 7.45
    4. Fontana (3/18): 7.10
    5. Daytona (2/18): 6.71
    6. Las Vegas (3/4): 5.67
     
  10. Truex_rox

    Truex_rox Furniture Row's Biggest Fan

    Not quite.
     
  11. Revman

    Revman May God Bless Coach Joe Gibbs and all JGR Fans

    I will never understand rating a race. Ever. I find it as fascinating when Martin blows away the field in Fontana or nobody can get within a second of Clint (At Martinsville!) as I do the side by side stuff to the line everybody seems to crave. How the hell does one driver/team dominate in a series designed for parity? Fascinating. Additionally, most of the time side by side to the line means many think the race was great when the rest of it could be complete sh!t.
     
  12. Yogisd1

    Yogisd1 Resident Retard

    Rating a race is like judging ice skating, in that there is no concrete guidelines on what to judge. Some people let where their favorite driver finishes effect their final judgement. Others judge by how close the finish for first was. Yet others judge on how big of a track the race was on. None of these are the wrong way to judge a race. The one through ten system gives more detail of how much you liked, or didn't like a particular race, as opposed to just a like, or didn't like a race. There will never be complete agreement as to if a race was good or bad, but it does let us know how entertaining it was for everyone.
     
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  13. Johali

    Johali Team Owner Contributor

    Yep. And It's entertaining to see what other people think of any particular race.
     
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  14. ToyYoda

    ToyYoda Team Owner

    Cup:

    1. Phoenix (3/11): 8.62
    2. Atlanta (2/25): 8.08
    3. Texas (4/8): 7.70
    4. Martinsville (3/26): 7.45
    5. Fontana (3/18): 7.10
    6. Daytona (2/18): 6.71
    7. Las Vegas (3/4): 5.67

    Xfinity:

    1. Las Vegas (3/3): 7.39
    2. Fontana (3/17): 7.28
    3. Daytona (2/17): 7.22
    4. Phoenix (3/10): 7.09
    5. Texas (4/7): 7.04
    6. Atlanta (2/24): 6.86
     
  15. ToyYoda

    ToyYoda Team Owner

    I think the is the highest I've seen a Cup race rated in the 3+ years I've been tracking this.

    Cup:


    1. Bristol (4/15-4/16): 9.67
    2. Phoenix (3/11): 8.62
    3. Atlanta (2/25): 8.08
    4. Texas (4/8): 7.70
    5. Martinsville (3/26): 7.45
    6. Fontana (3/18): 7.10
    7. Daytona (2/18): 6.71
    8. Las Vegas (3/4): 5.67

    Xfinity:

    1. Bristol (4/14): 8.63
    2. Las Vegas (3/3): 7.39
    3. Fontana (3/17): 7.28
    4. Daytona (2/17): 7.22
    5. Phoenix (3/10): 7.09
    6. Texas (4/7): 7.04
    7. Atlanta (2/24): 6.86
     
  16. Kiante

    Kiante Team Owner

    Good lord.
     
  17. FLRacingFan

    FLRacingFan Team Owner

    We might have to resurrect Dale Sr. to beat this one.
     
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  18. Kiante

    Kiante Team Owner

    Let the man rest, my guy.
     
  19. Charlie Spencer

    Charlie Spencer Short tracks and road courses rule.

    That depends on whether you can get Terry Labonte back on the track with him. :D
     
  20. ToyYoda

    ToyYoda Team Owner

    Better bring Rusty to the track to so he can throw another water bottle at him.
     
  21. JBone88

    JBone88 JR Nation's last ride

    Safe to say we have our winner for 2018. No way a race tops that rating this year.
     
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  22. hendrickfreak

    hendrickfreak Crew Chief

    While we're at it, why not bring back Tony and Kenseth so Tony can throw his helmet at Kenseth's car:D

    (I wonder what happened to that helmet)
     
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  23. Charlie Spencer

    Charlie Spencer Short tracks and road courses rule.

    I read a couple of years ago that Tony said NASCAR still had it, despite his occasional requests to get it back.
     
  24. hendrickfreak

    hendrickfreak Crew Chief

    I wonder why NASCAR haven't given it back? Why would they want to keep it?
     
  25. Charlie Spencer

    Charlie Spencer Short tracks and road courses rule.

  26. Yogisd1

    Yogisd1 Resident Retard

    For the hall of fame of course.:)
     
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  27. ToyYoda

    ToyYoda Team Owner

    Cup:

    1. Bristol (4/15-4/16): 9.67
    2. Phoenix (3/11): 8.62
    3. Richmond (4/21): 8.22
    4. Atlanta (2/25): 8.08
    5. Texas (4/8): 7.70
    6. Martinsville (3/26): 7.45
    7. Fontana (3/18): 7.10
    8. Daytona (2/18): 6.71
    9. Las Vegas (3/4): 5.67

    Xfinity:

    1. Bristol (4/14): 8.63
    2. Richmond (4/20): 8.08
    3. Las Vegas (3/3): 7.39
    4. Fontana (3/17): 7.28
    5. Daytona (2/17): 7.22
    6. Phoenix (3/10): 7.09
    7. Texas (4/7): 7.04
    8. Atlanta (2/24): 6.86
     
  28. ToyYoda

    ToyYoda Team Owner

    Cup:

    1. Bristol (4/15-4/16): 9.67
    2. Phoenix (3/11): 8.62
    3. Richmond (4/21): 8.22
    4. Atlanta (2/25): 8.08
    5. Texas (4/8): 7.70
    6. Martinsville (3/26): 7.45
    7. Fontana (3/18): 7.10
    8. Daytona (2/18): 6.71
    9. Talladega (4/29): 6.46
    10. Las Vegas (3/4): 5.67

    Xfinity:

    1. Bristol (4/14): 8.63
    2. Richmond (4/20): 8.08
    3. Las Vegas (3/3): 7.39
    4. Fontana (3/17): 7.28
    5. Daytona (2/17): 7.22
    6. Phoenix (3/10): 7.09
    7. Texas (4/7): 7.04
    8. Atlanta (2/24): 6.86
    9. Talladega (4/28): 6.70
     
  29. Larsonfan1995

    Larsonfan1995 Team Owner

    Average track size of top 5 cup ratings: 1.05 miles
    Average track size of bottom 5 cup ratings: 1.84 miles

    Hmm
     
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  30. ToyYoda

    ToyYoda Team Owner

    Cup:

    1. Bristol (4/15-4/16): 9.67
    2. Phoenix (3/11): 8.62
    3. Richmond (4/21): 8.22
    4. Atlanta (2/25): 8.08
    5. Dover (5/6): 7.98
    6. Texas (4/8): 7.70
    7. Martinsville (3/26): 7.45
    8. Fontana (3/18): 7.10
    9. Daytona (2/18): 6.71
    10. Talladega (4/29): 6.46
    11. Las Vegas (3/4): 5.67

    Xfinity:

    1. Bristol (4/14): 8.63
    2. Dover (5/5): 8.50
    3. Richmond (4/20): 8.08
    4. Las Vegas (3/3): 7.39
    5. Fontana (3/17): 7.28
    6. Daytona (2/17): 7.22
    7. Phoenix (3/10): 7.09
    8. Texas (4/7): 7.04
    9. Atlanta (2/24): 6.86
    10. Talladega (4/28): 6.70
     
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  31. JBone88

    JBone88 JR Nation's last ride

    The three highest rated Xfinity races were Dash 4 Cashers without Cup drivers. Hmmm:D
     
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  32. ToyYoda

    ToyYoda Team Owner

    There's definitely a theme...
     
  33. Charlie Spencer

    Charlie Spencer Short tracks and road courses rule.

    They were also three of the highest five Cup races. I think it's the tracks, not the composition of the field.
     
  34. StandOnIt

    StandOnIt Farm Truck

    Throw out Bristol because of the obvious bias around here and look at the remaining three of which only one is in common with both..We can play this game all day.:p
     
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  35. StandOnIt

    StandOnIt Farm Truck

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  36. ToyYoda

    ToyYoda Team Owner

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  37. Charlie Spencer

    Charlie Spencer Short tracks and road courses rule.

    Yep. Lies, damned lies, and statistics. :D
     
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  38. StandOnIt

    StandOnIt Farm Truck

    eh hard to say sometimes with Gluck's yes or no way of doing things. I know why Daytona 1doesn't do well around here and it's low rating is opposite of the rest of the fandom. Cowboy hat and the plate haters...double whammy :p. But most of his race ratings are pretty close to yours. I like your setup much better.
     
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  39. ToyYoda

    ToyYoda Team Owner

    Cup:

    1. Bristol (4/15-4/16): 9.67
    2. Phoenix (3/11): 8.62
    3. Richmond (4/21): 8.22
    4. Kansas (5/12): 8.10
    5. Atlanta (2/25): 8.08
    6. Dover (5/6): 7.98
    7. Texas (4/8): 7.70
    8. Martinsville (3/26): 7.45
    9. Fontana (3/18): 7.10
    10. Daytona (2/18): 6.71
    11. Talladega (4/29): 6.46
    12. Las Vegas (3/4): 5.67
     
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  40. ToyYoda

    ToyYoda Team Owner

    Cup:

    1. Bristol (4/15-4/16): 9.67
    2. Phoenix (3/11): 8.62
    3. Richmond (4/21): 8.22
    4. Kansas (5/12): 8.10
    5. Atlanta (2/25): 8.08
    6. Dover (5/6): 7.98
    7. Texas (4/8): 7.70
    8. Martinsville (3/26): 7.45
    9. Charlotte (5/27): 7.20
    10. Fontana (3/18): 7.10
    11. Daytona (2/18): 6.71
    12. Talladega (4/29): 6.46
    13. Las Vegas (3/4): 5.67

    Xfinity:

    1. Bristol (4/14): 8.63
    2. Dover (5/5): 8.50
    3. Richmond (4/20): 8.08
    4. Las Vegas (3/3): 7.39
    5. Fontana (3/17): 7.28
    6. Daytona (2/17): 7.22
    7. Charlotte (5/26): 7.13
    8. Phoenix (3/10): 7.09
    9. Texas (4/7): 7.04
    10. Atlanta (2/24): 6.86
    11. Talladega (4/28): 6.70
     
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