2019 IndyCar Miscellaneous

Discussion in 'Open Wheel Racing' started by Charlie Spencer, Dec 5, 2018.

  1. FLRacingFan

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  2. Charlie Spencer

    Charlie Spencer Short tracks and road courses rule.

    I'm glad to see they're buying ad time with NBC. I look forward to finding out what a 'digital financial service' is. Hopefully they'll explain in in words of one syllable (or less).
     
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  3. FLRacingFan

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    That is a sizable chunk of money for title sponsorship of a singular event.

     
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  4. FLRacingFan

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    Through 2025:

     
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  6. Kiante

    Kiante Team Owner

    Shits wild, but Comcast is out for blood with IndyCar and Supercross. They know the fanbases, as niche as they are, will pay for it. Supercross is 75 dollars anually and IndyCar will be 55 anually after the early bird special. They are going to make money from this TV contract one way or another.
     
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  7. Charlie Spencer

    Charlie Spencer Short tracks and road courses rule.

    Eh. As far as IndyCar goes, I watch only the top-tier races themselves. As long as those are still on cable / satellite, I'm good. On the other hand, if I was a more dedicated fan, $55 seems pretty reasonable. If the entire schedule moved behind a paywall, I'd drop $100 for it. I could pay that back pretty quickly by dropping a cable tier.

    Frankly, if I wasn't in a NASCAR fantasy league, I probably wouldn't care about P and Q in the Cup series either.
     
  8. FLRacingFan

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    $55 alone isn't terrible, but on principle alone I am tempted not to purchase just because it was previously free and a good way for any prospective fans (especially internationals) to get a taste before diving in. Gold in general I feel like is a huge rip-off because as @Kiante said they're doing this 'pass' for a lot of different niche series and leagues and it could easily begin to add up for not all that much more content. The pass is effectively a way to get revenue both from subscription fees (races) and OTT content (everything else), which is why the pass itself has no live race streaming. In all honesty I'd like to see enough fans say enough is enough and just not buy it. Would be interesting to see how NBC adjusts it next year if it turns out to be a big flop.

    Of course, I could just be making a big deal out of nothing, which wouldn't be the first occasion.
     
  9. FLRacingFan

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    5-race schedule announced for Kimball:



    The second Harding entry, for Pato O'Ward, is sounding to be in serious doubt for the season. :( Don't cheat on your wife, folks.

    DragonSpeed will hold off to test at Barber and Sebring before St. Pete.

    25 entries for COTA Spring Training
    https://racer.com/2019/02/07/25-entries-for-cota-spring-training/
     
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  10. Charlie Spencer

    Charlie Spencer Short tracks and road courses rule.

    Free as in you weren't paying for it at all, or free as in the cost was hidden in your cable / satellite / streaming service charges?
     
  11. Charlie Spencer

    Charlie Spencer Short tracks and road courses rule.

    That's an eclectic schedule - street course, road course, banked 1.5 oval, two flat 2.5 ovals.
     
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  12. FLRacingFan

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    This is the same content they used to stream for free each event weekend across Twitter/YouTube/Facebook. If you went to their timing & scoring site during practice or qualifying they'd always have the YouTube stream embedded there too. It sounds like USF2000 and Pro 2000 content will still be streamed on those, but everything Indy Lights (not sure about P & Q for this one) and IndyCar that's not available on TV is no longer available there and instead behind this new paywall.
     
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  13. Kiante

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    Steinbriener IV must be on a tight leash. He's bringing money, but damn that would be horrendous if he can't drive next year. I wonder if Andretti will get some placeholder sponsors ie, military.com for Pato? Sucks that Pato does not have the blessings of Slim behind him.
     
  14. FLRacingFan

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    Hank made it clear that George IV needs to do this and make it work on his own. Ok, fair. Herta sounds to be good to go for the full season, but I saw earlier this morning that the other engine lease is reportedly only for the 500 and additional races. That would be disappointing because I think Pato is REALLY special, certainly better than Colton. I agree with you, he'd be perfect for the Telmex family but it doesn't seem to be in the cards. Of course, it doesn't help that Mr. Harding is seemingly losing/going to lose A LOT of money to his (ex-?) wife...
     
  15. Kiante

    Kiante Team Owner

    Michael put a lot into Pato, I doubt he lets him walk for nothing. I have a feeling they will have a backup plan. Pato is better than Colton, we all know Colton is a very good driver. Lets be honest, his Dad and him having the George IV's money has been big for him. Pato out raced Colton a lot last season, so I wonder if Michael will have some backup plans. Sponsors are abundant with the primary team, lets hope someone will step up and back Pato.
     
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  16. Kiante

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    [​IMG]

    Yet Ferrucci has no issue with sponsorship yet previously being an asshat in F2. sh!t is wild.
     
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  17. FLRacingFan

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    Ferucci...:rolleyes:
     
  18. FLRacingFan

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  20. FLRacingFan

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    Pato seems to have just figured this out too...

    O’Ward splits from Harding Steinbrenner Racing
    https://www.motorsport.com/indycar/news/oward-splits-from-harding-steinbrenner/4335874/?nrt=86

    This team's a farce.
     
  21. Kiante

    Kiante Team Owner

    Terrible.

    Pato has two options. Either knock down Juncos or Carlin's doors to get something going. Kimball is only a part-time this year and Pato is much too talented to get ****** over. This is looking like another Kaiser situation IMHO. All the talent possible, but no money. **** I wish he was in Slim's stable.
     
  22. StandOnIt

    StandOnIt Farm Truck

    something probably will turn up at the last minute. If he is good they almost always get rides.
     
  23. FLRacingFan

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    Share the #23 with Kimball and Enerson is the most likely scenario I'm imagining as well...except I'm not sure how the 500 works into that because Kimball already has a 500 ride locked up and the Lights scholarship covers the 500 entry. Maybe Carlin for a few races and Juncos for the 500. But damn, what a sh!t situation. Too late in the game for this to happen. I know Andretti like him a lot but I'm not sure what they can do at the moment.
     
  24. gnomesayin

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    NBC got me to pay the $90 for the combined SX and MX season packages to avoid the tape delayed showings and generally have a higher level of access to the races both live and archived. I'm not sure whether I'll do it again next year, as I'm realizing that sometimes I may not want to build every Saturday around the 'value' of watching Supercross live. (My wife would say that's a burden, not a value, LOL.)

    I would defend these NBC Gold packages as a good value for true hardcore fans who want every minute of coverage they can get. I'm a regular weekly viewer, but I don't feel the need to watch qualifying and practice sessions often. For those who do, the cost of these is a drop in the bucket compared to almost anything else fans do to financially support a series, such as attending a single race.

    However, from a marketing and audience building standpoint, I suspect they'd be smarter to drop prices or offer tiered service levels, offer free trials, etc. Anything to get people in the door, build marketing lists, etc. They should offer a single race for free on a recurring signup, offer single races for $3.99 and the season for about half what these current packages are. Or again, offer tiers that start cheaper. I believe they are erring on the side of protecting the content and milking an existing niche fanbase instead of trying to expose the content as much as possible. I have the same criticism of a lot of dirt oval track streaming stuff, but some of those services are starting to either come down in price or offer more races.
     
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  25. Kiante

    Kiante Team Owner

    Damn:
     
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  26. rd45usa

    rd45usa Team Owner

    @COTA
     
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  29. FLRacingFan

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    Three young drivers Harding has screwed over now...I'd wager the Harding part is gone by the end of 2019 and Steinbrenner just link up with Andretti next year.
     
  30. FLRacingFan

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    Rossi deposes Herta in IndyCar Spring Training final session
    https://www.motorsport.com/indycar/news/rossi-deposes-herta-cota-test/4337281/

    McLaren, Carlin forge alliance as Fernando Alonso's Indy 500 program comes together
    https://www.indystar.com/story/spor...alonsos-indy-500-program-develops/2859574002/
     
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  32. FLRacingFan

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    Will be run from the 500 onwards. Not quite sure this will do a whole lot, but it's okay for a short-term solution, I suppose. The first iteration of the windscreen reportedly failed heavy impact testing. Perhaps a more permanent solution could be fitted onto the 2020 car, but more realistically I think it'll be a fundamental component of the all-new 2021 car.

    INDYCAR TO INTRODUCE NEXT PHASE OF COCKPIT SAFETY

    https://www.indycar.com/News/2019/02/02-19-Cockpit-safety-device-Advanced-Frontal-Protection-AFP

    [​IMG]
     
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  37. rd45usa

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  38. FLRacingFan

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    Apparently Chris Windom and Tyler Courtney were at the Clauson-Marshall press announcement yesterday. I think that is a good sign for more potential USACers attempting the 500, which I still think is important. I don't know if I'm making this up but I think I read/heard not too long ago that Windom is probably attempting the Freedom 100 again this year after his unfortunate practice mishap in a Belardi last year.

    I am more skeptical of potential South American events than any other (financing, mostly), and I'm not sure what this means in regards to the potential Gold Coast race early next year, but I appreciate Mr. Juncos's dedication to the sport. Truly a self-made man. If it is good enough for World Superbike, it must be a pretty decent course. I do think there's a pretty good amount of untapped open wheel potential down in SA though, and think it's a good market to at least explore opportunities in.
     
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  40. FLRacingFan

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    Not really a fan of the 'Last Row Shootout'. Not really a fan of BOTH the Fast Nine and Last Row Shootout being run in the heat of the day, with three hours of practice afterwards...have to believe this is an NBC decision. Probably an NHL conference final game on NBC after those two Sunday sessions are done. To me, one attempt is certainly not bumping. At Indy, it should be the race against 6 PM or bust. I think Saturday might actually be more interesting with the traditional 11-6 qualifying window, with bumping to get both into the Fast Nine and to avoid the dreaded Last Row Shootout.
     
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