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I don't think Bell with his win or crash mentality will be that driver for at least a few years.
I don't agree that he has a win or crash mentality. He is coming from a sprint car background and racing cars with fenders is quite a bit different. I think he is actually a pretty smooth driver. With one year at the cup level with only a handful of seasons full time in the lower series he still has a lot to learn.
 

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I don't agree that he has a win or crash mentality. He is coming from a sprint car background and racing cars with fenders is quite a bit different. I think he is actually a pretty smooth driver. With one year at the cup level with only a handful of seasons full time in the lower series he still has a lot to learn.
yeah, he had all of three crashes last year with 2 of them being at plate tracks. If anything I think it's the opposite.
 

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Tony Stewart watching Bell's progression in the background:
Given his dirt background (Stewart/SHR) along with JGR's tendency to give up on young drivers, I could see him replacing Almirola or even Harvick in a couple years when he retires.
 

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yeah, he had all of three crashes last year with 2 of them being at plate tracks. If anything I think it's the opposite.
I was referring to his mentality in the Xfinity series. 1 Yr in cup with that team means nothing.
 

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It's common when you listen to gerbils. One of them was trying to make sure his young Harrison made the team by any way possible and the other was agreeing to it.
 

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That's kinda odd that the renumbered the 48 charter to the 5 and the 88 charter to the 48. Must be some money driven reasoning behind that?
It's just transfering owner points from one number to another.

Since they own their charters, they can re-number any car and take those owners points to the new number.
 

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I notice the #51 RWR charter is the only one to have finished in the bottom three for both 2019 and 2020. If it repeats in '21, the rule regarding finishing in the last three spots for three consecutive years could come into play. Frankly, I'm pulling for them to finish dead last among charter holders just to see what NASCAR will do. There's any number of places I'd rather see that guaranteed starting spot beside Rented Weekly Racing.
 

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I notice the #51 RWR charter is the only one to have finished in the bottom three for both 2019 and 2020. If it repeats in '21, the rule regarding finishing in the last three spots for three consecutive years could come into play. Frankly, I'm pulling for them to finish dead last among charter holders just to see what NASCAR will do. There's any number of places I'd rather see that guaranteed starting spot beside Rented Weekly Racing.
When you own 4 charters is pretty easy to control it to make sure you don't finish in the bottom 3.

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Got to start somewhere.
Funny thing about Baltic Avenue - you can't reach it on your first roll. It's right beside the 'GO' square starting point, meaning you'd need a 1 to land on it. That means if you do land on it, you've already had at least three other rolls.

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Funny thing about Baltic Avenue - you can't reach it on your first roll. It's right beside the 'GO' square starting point, meaning you'd need a 1 to land on it. That means if you do land on it, you've already had at least three other rolls.

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I look at Rick Ware like a manual transmission. The clutch and flywheel will have had enough eventually after stalling out enough.
 

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Rome wasn't built in a day, I for one actually like the dedication to the many disciplines. Just I'd like to see Rick and company focus on one then expand to something else by becoming competitive first.

I like to **** on the team as well at times, but you can't knock the drive at all.
 
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Rome wasn't built in a day, I for one actually like the dedication to the many disciplines. Just I'd like to see Rick and company focus on one then expand to something else by becoming competitive first.

I like to **** on the team as well at times, but you can't knock the drive at all.
Over five years, they average one Top 10 every 75 Xfinity starts, one every 150 Cup starts. At least one of those Cup teams is bottom three each of those years; often two of the teams 'achieve' that standing. There's no statistical sign of improvement over five years. Look at the list of who's driven for them; nobody's moved up from them to something better, so they're not even much of a springboard.

I won't believe they're the least bit interested in being competitive until they stick with at least three of the same driver / car / crew chief pairings for a whole season. Until then, I'll continue to regard them as being dedicated only to being the highest priced Rent-A-Wreck franchise. They're a joke; I don't see how they can't know it but I guess Ware doesn't care as long as the checks clear.
 
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Over five years, they average one Top 10 every 75 Xfinity starts, one every 150 Cup starts. At least one of those Cup teams is bottom three each of those years; often two of the teams 'achieve' that standing. There's no statistical sign of improvement over five years.

I won't believe they're the least bit interested in being competitive until they stick with at least three of the same driver / car / crew chief pairings for a whole season. Until then, I'll continue to regard them as being dedicated only to being the highest priced Rent-A-Wreck franchise. They're a joke; I don't see how they can't know it but I guess Ware doesn't care as long as the checks clear.
Which is why I said I'd like to see then focus on NASCAR, but its how they market themselves by racing in so many disciplines.

Chip Ganassi, Jack Roush, Roger Penske, and others were able to expand due to high-performance levels before expanding outwards. Ware is like the opposite in expanding before performing and excelling somewhere before expanding.
 

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Rome wasn't built in a day, I for one actually like the dedication to the many disciplines. Just I'd like to see Rick and company focus on one then expand to something else by becoming competitive first.

I like to **** on the team as well at times, but you can't knock the drive at all.
I'm not sure if they are still going to run 4 cars when the new car is introduced.
Maybe they will focus on one or two cars in 2022.
Over five years, they average one Top 10 every 75 Xfinity starts, one every 150 Cup starts. At least one of those Cup teams is bottom three each of those years; often two of the teams 'achieve' that standing. There's no statistical sign of improvement over five years. Look at the list of who's driven for them; nobody's moved up from them to something better, so they're not even much of a springboard.

I won't believe they're the least bit interested in being competitive until they stick with at least three of the same driver / car / crew chief pairings for a whole season. Until then, I'll continue to regard them as being dedicated only to being the highest priced Rent-A-Wreck franchise. They're a joke; I don't see how they can't know it but I guess Ware doesn't care as long as the checks clear.
One of the two Cup Top 10s was Ragan in an FRM car with Ware's charter.
 

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Funny thing about Baltic Avenue - you can't reach it on your first roll. It's right beside the 'GO' square starting point, meaning you'd need a 1 to land on it. That means if you do land on it, you've already had at least three other rolls.

"The more you know ..."
You need a 1 to land on Mediterranean Avenue. It takes craps to land on Baltic from the Go. In other words RWR is bad, but it isn't that bad.
 

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This is big for next season, it seems like MTJ is in the process of getting an extension done:
 

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This is big for next season, it seems like MTJ is in the process of getting an extension done:

It makes sense for at least a 1 year deal. They don't appear to have anyone in the pipeline that appears to be ready for cup and MTJ is still very competitive
 

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It makes sense for at least a 1 year deal. They don't appear to have anyone in the pipeline that appears to be ready for cup and MTJ is still very competitive
In his shoes I would not take a 1 year contract, make it 3 yrs or take his chances. I don't see any drivers challenging him right now. I am quite sure Ganassi would replace Kurt with him after this season and maybe able to entice his Canadian CC to come back. ( I think his deal with JGR is done this year.)
 

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In his shoes I would not take a 1 year contract, make it 3 yrs or take his chances. I don't see any drivers challenging him right now. I am quite sure Ganassi would replace Kurt with him after this season and maybe able to entice his Canadian CC to come back. ( I think his deal with JGR is done this year.)
I guess that's assuming that he wants to drive beyond 1 year. He's won a championship, he's 40 now, seems like he has things that he enjoys away from the track and most importantly Sherry is going through treatment again. I'm not sure he wants to be tied to a full season of racing at the cup level much longer.

If he wants to hang around his talent isn't lacking, so more power to him.
 

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The most jarring fact to me in that article is that Busch has worked with 5 crew chiefs in his 12 years at Gibbs. I find that astounding, that might be the most pressure packed job in the sport. Sort of one and done I would think. The sofa QB fan in me says that Preacher Joe made a mistake moving all of the 18 guys away from Kyle, they just won a championship the previous year and it does happen where a guy or team will have a bad season. The tea leaves were right for Kyle to have a bad season with the extraordinary times everyone was in last season and about to endure this season, so I would think Stevens and co would earn a pass. . But I obviously dont know the reasoning or thinking behind their decisions to swap crews, maybe Kyle pushed for it. I really hope he bounces back this year, hes one of my favorite drivers to watch each week, it was kind of boring with him winning only 1. Some enjoyed it, I didnt personally... hope he gets back to the winning ways.
 
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