2024 Next Gen Car

Throwing more horsepower at what some think is a problem is not that simple. It's a fine line between making them too hard to drive which leads to a little passing single file racing clean air fest type racing, and being able to have decent passing and side by side racing with the fast cars being able to come from the rear to the front. I have no problem with Nascar sneaking up on it instead of taking the blunderbuss route. Leaving the most important factor aero out of the equation where more gains than horsepower when at speed occur leaves out a lot of a complicated number of factors.


For the record, a lot of the mid 2000s-mid 2010s California and Michigan races that were considered pretty tame are becoming "cult classics" when talent in the series was at its peak and the cars were entering the turns at 205mph+. I think the fan base is slowly turning towards wanting more speed and driver skill than needing close side-by-side racing
 
For the record, a lot of the mid 2000s-mid 2010s California and Michigan races that were considered pretty tame are becoming "cult classics" when talent in the series was at its peak and the cars were entering the turns at 205mph+. I think the fan base is slowly turning towards wanting more speed and driver skill than needing close side-by-side racing
That is a matter of opinion not supported by the numbers. Seems like they tried a different package every year for awhile to try to improve the numbers at Michigan. high HP high D/F, high HP low D/f force, aero this and that. So bad at California it isn't there anymore.
 
Considering all of the caution complaining that you do whenever Nascar has one, I wouldn't think that would be something to worry about. They seldom would stay out on old tires.
Besides most of them choose as a strategy to ride around on plate tracks until fairly late in the last stage before making their moves unless a small group get sparky and start pushing and shoving to get to the front earlier than all bets are off.
 
Many of you want stage cautions removed to END the drastic fuel saving racing at superspeedways.
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says the engineers are too smart for that.

Info about the pre season thunder tests in January
 
Many of you want stage cautions removed to END the drastic fuel saving racing at superspeedways.
For the record, I want them removed from ALL races. My desire has nothing to do with fuel saving at superspeedways, since we all know I'd like pack racing to go away too.

And I want a golden ticket, and a chocolate river, and an Oompa-Loompa, and a goose that lays golden eggs, and I want them now, Daddy, NOW!
 
For the record, I want them removed from ALL races. My desire has nothing to do with fuel saving at superspeedways, since we all know I'd like pack racing to go away too.

And I want a golden ticket, and a chocolate river, and an Oompa-Loompa, and a goose that lays golden eggs, and I want them now, Daddy, NOW!
And then you will get to complain about the races being covered up by full screen commercials and all the "while we were away".
 
And then you will get to complain about the races being covered up by full screen commercials and all the "while we were away".
You've mistaken me for other RF members. I'm the one who used to post about how much yard work I was getting done in 2.5 minute bursts, remember? I'm the one who has always acknowledged that the bills have to be paid. I'm still grateful we get live, complete coverage of every race, not an edited two hours on Wide World three weeks later.
 
You've mistaken me for other RF members. I'm the one who used to post about how much yard work I was getting done in 2.5 minute bursts, remember? I'm the one who has always acknowledged that the bills have to be paid. I'm still grateful we get live, complete coverage of every race, not an edited two hours on Wide World three weeks later.
One of these days you will figure it out you can't have it both ways. You either get while we were away starring Jacques debris, or maddeningly long stage cautions for commercials.
 
One of these days you will figure it out you can't have it both ways. You either get while we were away starring Jacques debris, or maddeningly long stage cautions for commercials.
I've never objected to what was missed during full screen ads. I have always understood the trade-offs, including the effects on strategies. I get that you don't agree with my preference but it HAS been my preference since the first season with scheduled cautions.
 
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