2026 Silly Season

Really? Maybe we should start a thread of winless prospects. What would be the explanation for Gragson?
Well he started off with a team that was on the verge of closing down and moved to one that no longer has a charter compared to someone else being at JGR the entire time.
 
Well he started off with a team that was on the verge of closing down and moved to one that no longer has a charter compared to someone else being at JGR the entire time.
Let's not let the facts get in the way of a good argument.

Maybe we could talk about how someone's teammates have 10 victories in the 29 races this season.....
 
Hey Monster, stop wasting your money on Herbst and put it behind a winner.
If we want to have a discussion about how Monster spends their money, I think the discussion can be had Monster is wasting their money on The Preacher’s Grandson. If he doesn’t win this season, I think we could be chartering on bust territory. The body of work THUS far……leaves a lot to be desired.
 
I dont like Ty at all, but the kid has promise and has shown some flashes of being good. My issue is with JGR in that drivers with better results were shown the door in the past.
 
Not sure where you are going with that question. I don’t recall saying he was disgruntled.
Literally nobody seems be worked up over Cory's situation expect SOU.
 
Well he started off with a team that was on the verge of closing down and moved to one that no longer has a charter compared to someone else being at JGR the entire time.
He doesn't seem upset. There is a reason.
 
What do you think I have been complaining about all year? Doesn't change the fact that he almost won the regular season championship.
Kind interesting from the bring back the Winston Cup points system, isn't it?
 
Definitely, but without Cup cars to put that talent in, the drivers inevitably look to other manufacturers. Why would Ford and Chevy bother when Toyota is doing the work for them?
Sure, and Toyota acknowledges this. WE want the first shot at the talent. If it doesn't work out, then the other manufacturers have at it. What the hell is wrong with that? Somehow, some around here see giving a driver a chance, and cutting them loose when it doesn't work out is wrong.
 
If we want to have a discussion about how Monster spends their money, I think the discussion can be had Monster is wasting their money on The Preacher’s Grandson. If he doesn’t win this season, I think we could be chartering on bust territory. The body of work THUS far……leaves a lot to be desired.
I'd agree with this....he has shown speed, but it is time.
 
Gibbs, Herbst & to some extent Jones are not getting the most out of what they’ve been given. IDK if this is any concern to Toyota or if they relinquish all that sort of things to the teams.
I think that Jones is fine.....arguably so is Gibbs. Herbst? Sheesh. What more do we need to see that he is not talented?
 
While it's improving, I'm not ready to call Legacy a decent outfit.
One year ago, the narrative was so different. Many do not understand the difference between a Tier 1 and an affiliate...then run their mouths for some strange approval around here.
 
I dont like Ty at all, but the kid has promise and has shown some flashes of being good. My issue is with JGR in that drivers with better results were shown the door in the past.
He’s shown promise driving superior JGR equipment at every level. Thins more or less have evened out when he made it to Cup
 
One year ago, the narrative was so different. Many do not understand the difference between a Tier 1 and an affiliate...then run their mouths for some strange approval around here.
Yea Legacy is night and day from last year. Folks are still making jokes about their management structure or their “lack of speed”. Those same folks haven’t been paying attention this year
 
Yea Legacy is night and day from last year. Folks are still making jokes about their management structure or their “lack of speed”. Those same folks haven’t been paying attention this year
Some are listening to yota shills like the gerbils and other flatulence, some look at the results. 22nd and 23rd?
 
Kind interesting from the bring back the Winston Cup points system, isn't it?
You will never get an argument from me that the Latford System weighted consistency too much and success too little. That being said, I will go to my grave believing that it could still form the framework for a points system VASTLY superior to anything we have had since.
 
Sure, and Toyota acknowledges this. WE want the first shot at the talent. If it doesn't work out, then the other manufacturers have at it. What the hell is wrong with that? Somehow, some around here see giving a driver a chance, and cutting them loose when it doesn't work out is wrong.
Nothing wrong with it but why give your opponents the benefit of your time, effort, and dollars?

Denny just re-up'ed
Briscoe just got there and is doing well.
Has Bell re-signed? I think letting him go would be a mistake.
You know my feelings about Gibbs.

Bubba has really stepped up since Indy. Besides, he's sponsor gold.
Herbst is questionable but it is just his first year.
Reddick is another one that will probably be re-signed.

That leaves the Legacy seats. Jones and Nemo aren't anything to write home about but how much of that is the cars? If you were a Truck or X driver, I guess you'd take a Legacy seat if that was your only option and really wanted to go Cup racing.

Otherwise, I don't see an opening at Gibbs or 23XI until Denny calls it quits or until Herbst contract runs out (presumably not before 2026). There's always the possibility one of those seats could be filled by an existing Cup driver. Two or maybe three drivers appear to be all that are needed in the pipeline; more than that and you're just doing the other manu's work for them. But hey, it's not my money; it's not like motorsports is a profit center.
 
One year ago, the narrative was so different. Many do not understand the difference between a Tier 1 and an affiliate...then run their mouths for some strange approval around here.
I won't claim to know the difference. I do know the Legacy teams' results are the weakest of the Yoyo cars. I'm not informed enough to say whether it's the cars, team resources, or drivers (but I lean toward the latter, esp. Nemo).
 
You will never get an argument from me that the Latford System weighted consistency too much and success too little. That being said, I will go to my grave believing that it could still form the framework for a points system VASTLY superior to anything we have had since.
While I preferred Latford, I wouldn't revert to it intact. I could live with the current points system if 'Win and you're in' was dropped and the race winner received more points than anyone else (say, 70 or 75).
 
I won't claim to know the difference. I do know the Legacy teams' results are the weakest of the Yoyo cars. I'm not informed enough to say whether it's the cars, team resources, or drivers (but I lean toward the latter, esp. Nemo).
There are lots of things that explain performance, but one of the most significant was that Jimmie insisted on being a Tier 1 team. All of the information that JGR got without the people to manage it. Jimmie changed personnel.....they learned how to use the information.....and here we go. Erik and JHN have been getting better. It's a great story that some will not allow around here.
 
Brian France to the 23
I remember Brian France running Legends cars in the early 90's. He sacrificed it all to give us the chase and labored and worked so hard for us through many sufferings untll something snapped.

Put the burned out man in the Nascar Hall of Fame ( Dammit! He is part of the French Dynasty)
 
Trackhouse gets their engines from RCR. Makes me wonder how well that deal is going to go.
 
I remember Brian France running Legends cars in the early 90's. He sacrificed it all to give us the chase and labored and worked so hard for us through many sufferings untll something snapped.

Put the burned out man in the Nascar Hall of Fame ( Dammit! He is part of the French Dynasty)
as he was running those cars he was thinking " You know what would be a great way to crown a champion?? A points reset with 10 races to go that nullifies the previous 26 races and sets everyone up at 0 for a 10 race SPRINT to the finish. Quintessential NASCAR. "
 
as he was running those cars he was thinking " You know what would be a great way to crown a champion?? A points reset with 10 races to go that nullifies the previous 26 races and sets everyone up at 0 for a 10 race SPRINT to the finish. Quintessential NASCAR. "
And my best ideas always come from good cocaine. I think we need a new car, I'll talk to the guys tomorrow about it. I wonder what we could call it.
 
Trackhouse gets their engines from RCR. Makes me wonder how well that deal is going to go.
I'm guessing RC was aware of this deal before it was signed. At this point the 8 needs to go in a different direction, either the guy holding the wheel or the guy on the box
 
I'm guessing RC was aware of this deal before it was signed. At this point the 8 needs to go in a different direction, either the guy holding the wheel or the guy on the box
No it's def the spotter.
 
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