Bowman Grey on Discovery Channel

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  1. StandOnIt

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  2. Johali

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  3. StandOnIt

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    They did it years ago on SPEED and it kinda was. The Myers were always feuding with another guy. And then there was the racing. Eh I'm going to watch it whatever, that little bitty track is a royal PITA to race on.
     
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  6. StandOnIt

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    Yeah Jr Miller was the guy.
     
  7. gnomesayin

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    Yes, Madhouse was way too over the top. Then again, Bowman Gray is way too over the top.

    Dirt Knights that airs on MavTV that follows midwestern modifieds (USMTS and IMCA) is pretty well done and more my speed.
     
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  8. StandOnIt

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    Coming up tonight at 10 on the Discovery Channel
     
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  9. StandOnIt

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    I watched the premiere, I thought it was a much better production than the old show. They went a little deeper into the cars and setups and the rules of how the race is run there. Burt Myers hasn't changed. :D
     
  10. StandOnIt

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    This is the full race, not the program. Burt Myers on the pole, led every lap
     
  11. AuzGrams

    AuzGrams Team Owner

    Wasn't a bad show, but I wish Discovery would show something more interesting, like life on the road with the World of Outlaws or some sh!t like that instead of drama racing (not that I don't like that aspect of Bowman Gray).
     
  12. StandOnIt

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    I going to see how it pans out, I hope it doesn't go the way of so many car shows with a bunch of arguing and tool throwing. Show the setups, the strategy, film the racing really well, and the result, leave out as much of the childish B.S. as possible. They had much more in car, spotter, crew, and driver talk than the last time they did this. Photography was much better during the race also, I hope they build on that.
     
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  13. Johali

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    It was okay but I have hopes that It'll improve over time. At least they started out on a better note, as you say, than last time.
     
  14. sky

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    Pretty cool, I just wonder how interesting the show is to "outsiders"
     
  15. StandOnIt

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    Heads up Episode #2 coming up on the discovery channel
     
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  16. gone

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    Trouble is, with a flat narrow track they can't really race - so all they have to market is drama.
    At least, so far, they have the drivers admitting that starting on the pole is the main thing.. and that pole winners usually lead the whole race.
    You have to wreck somebody in order to pass them. That's why I don't try to race there and rarely go there to watch, despite it being the track closest to me.

    Also don't miss the games and crying that teams do over there. Was funny (but typical) to watch the drivers wait until the last minutes to qualify for the 200 lapper... and whine when they ran out of time. Also funny hearing the early season boasting, when we know how the season went.
     
  17. StandOnIt

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    Episode #2 was very entertaining. The 2-25 lappers with a pill draw to partially invert the field was a new on me. Much better than the old show.
     
  18. gone

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    I watched it too, and agree that the new show is better than the Madhouse show... although I wonder if it is a little too dry to have much staying power with casual viewers or TV executives...

    Bowman Gray has been doing the pill draw inversion (for twin races) for years. They've done it in different ways and with different numbers, but the drivers are used to trying to win the first race via the pole and then hoping for luck in the second race. You know, I don't remember seeing it on the Madhouse show - but the track was doing it back then too.
     
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  19. gone

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    Pretty sure that Jr Miller finally retired, although he could show up once in a while.
    I think Johnathon Brown has inherited that team, but don't hold me to that.
     
  20. DUN24

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    A Discovery Channel TV show following the WoO. That is actually an incredible idea. They have no ties to any network so why tf not? Even if it's just crews following for a couple months, there is so fuggin much they can document any given season. This would be HUGE.

    Deadliest Catch-style television with sprint car trophies instead of crabs. Uhhhhh yeah.
     
  21. Johali

    Johali Team Owner Contributor

    I have the series set to DVR. I'll watch it later today.
     
  22. sky

    sky Zombie Zoom LLC

    Bad-Ace show! Glad this came on this year. This is the first year I've missed every race at BGS in quite some time
     
  23. Johali

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    I've never been there and not sure that I want to go. It seems like more drama than actual racing for position.
     
  24. sky

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    Far as entertainment value is concerned it's worth every penny of $10. I'm well aware that purists and Body fabricators don't like it. Name another short track that gets 17,000 butts in the seats every week.
     
  25. gone

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    The drama (and drama queens) is what fills the stands today. Back in the late 1980s the stands were 80% empty. Train races, can't pass without wrecking somebody, drivers refusing to obey track officials, fights in the pits, fights in the stands. It was a mess. Meanwhile the other tracks in the area were pulling good fields of cars and great numbers of fans.

    Not sure if they changed promoters or not, but the current promoter pumps the drama. Still have train races, can't pass without wrecking somebody, drivers refusing to obey track officials, fights in the pits, fights in the stands - but they're appealing to fans who like to see blood. They even promote driver rivalries like they are prize fight bouts. Plus, unlike other tracks, they advertise.

    Around the same time some of the other tracks fell off due to poor management decisions and changes, and an unofficial area dirt track circuit (Oak Level or Ace on Friday, 311 or Friendship on Saturday, and Wilson on Sunday) fell apart. Oak Level closed / reopened / closed again, Ace and Friendship got paved (Friendship temporarily), and Wilson closed. That caused dirt teams and fans to look elsewhere, which helped Bowman-Gray. The Southern Modified Tour (which has changed names a few times) also bolstered the modifieds because it extended their season (B-G starts late and ends early). Caraway got NASCAR sanctioned, which generated higher fees and car costs - and also diverted some teams and fans to B-G.

    B-G is one of those thrills that you should try once... then decide if that is enough. You can sit low in the stands and feel cars whiz by just a few feet away. Admission is $12 (adults) and the concessions are pretty good and reasonably priced. You can actually buy a professionally printed program. The facility is well maintained. Most of the teams hang out with fans in the pits after the races, and B-G doesn't turn the lights out minutes after the racing is over. If you have kids you might not want to sit along the front stretch - that's where most of the rowdies sit. Most of the time whomever on the front row manages to get through turns 1 and 2 first on the first lap will lead the whole race. Typically it's follow-the-leader after two or three laps. You will see cars intentionally take other cars out. About a 50% chance that after a wreck a driver will exit his car and try to fight another driver - on the track. The Madhouse show televised it all... the new show not so much (so far).
     
  26. sky

    sky Zombie Zoom LLC

    If you have not been you have not experienced the passion of everyone involved, fans and competitors alike. Many fans adorn their driver's gear and will erupt in the cheer or a boo depending on who goes by or gets their name called. The fact that these guys, almost all of them work a 40 hour a week job like you and me, work on their cars all week and fight tooth and nail for every single inch of what's perhaps the tightest track in the country, it's America's last true gladiators entering the arena in their 700hp war machines ready to do battle. It's a throwback to the DIY outlaw world of old school stock car racing that you just won't find in the national touring series and it's NOT for everyone. If you're easily offended by a wreck, a fight or some choice words or one finger salutes maybe you shouldn't go or at least don't sit in turn 4. There's plenty of times you might say "what the hell did he do that for!?" When something outrageous happens but it's like a drug.. and you have to go back next week to see if they return the favor or just flat-out beat the guy messing them up last week. Some of the Hatfield/McCoy type rivalries quite literally span generations going all the way back to the 50s and 60s. The season is short (late april-august) and it always leaves fans wanting more. There is absolutely nothing else in the world like a race night @ BGS and the loyal fans that continue to patronize the historic venue would like to keep it that way.
     
  27. StandOnIt

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    I think they are doing a good job of portraying that this year. The last time it was about a bunch of piddly talking about each other and very little racing. This year so far the race is the centerpiece of the show.
     
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  28. kyle18fan

    kyle18fan Team Owner Contributor

    I love the way they haul the dead cars off the track :lol2:
     
  29. StandOnIt

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    Show #3 was real good I thought, 3 wide at Bowman Grey the last restart was pretty wild.
     
  30. gone

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    Looks like they've taken it off the air, although apparently you can see it online.

    From the Winston-Salem Journal:

    ‘Race Night at Bowman Gray’ show moves to Discover Go app
    • Staff report 14 hrs ago
    “Race Night at Bowman Gray” will no longer appear on the Discovery Channel’s airwaves. The weekly show which had been airing on Monday nights was moved to the channel’s app.


    Chelsea Dutchik, a publicist for the Discovery Channel, said the remaining episodes will be available for viewing on the Discover GO app. Viewers need a login for a cable provider to watch.
    There was no official reason given when asked why the show will no longer be aired.

    “Our programming department likes to make changes that go with the flow of everything so there is no official reason or anything like that,” Dutchik said.





    Last night they ran a repeat of a Street Outlaws "no prep" race instead, without saying anything about the Bowman Gray show.
    I suppose the new show didn't show enough drama.
     
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