Car numbers on rear quarter panels

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I have to say some of these cars look a whole lot better than they did with the number centered on the door. You can bet your bottom dollar that some designers will put a lot more effort into this once it becomes the norm for Cup racing. I would like to see what DEI would/could have done for the #8 car.
 

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The sponsor is paying the bills for this sport (next to TV contract) and I think they should be able to be creative if they want. Just leave the roof numbers alone.
 

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I think Brendan Gaughn had a possibly good point about the underglow…..may not show up very well under the BIR lights. They light that place up almost too good.
 

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The cars looked fantastic! NASCAR absolutely needs to incorporate this immediately. NOW!
 

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To be honest, I didn't even really notice the numbers once they were at race speed. The only time it looked odd was when the car was one primary color with no stripes or graphics to break up the sides of the cars (Kes and Kurt come to mind). Those cars looked odd to me, like the front end was way longer than the others. But for the most part, not an issue at all for me. The lights however are another story for another thread....
 

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Noticed immediately. Some executed better than others. I legit had a hard time spotting some of the numbers, vividly remember the 11 and 18.. I personally don't care for it but gotdammit just keep it off of the phuckin quarter panel.
 

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Cole Custers #41 looked like the #4 car a few times I recall. The way the number set on the paint scheme made the ‘4’ itself most visible from the side.

that was a highlight for me on the whole “let’s move the number thing”

thing is... it WILL sell a lot of diecast though. The way collectors are, they will get them because they’re unique. So hopefully no one starts thinking it’s good idea to repeat again based on merchandise sales or something.

I wonder if the diecast will come with underglow? :laugh:
 

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My preference is to leave things as they are but I won’t be heartbroken if it is changed. This is not something that will fundamentally change things as the current package has so I will pick my battles.
 

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Cole Custers #41 looked like the #4 car a few times I recall. The way the number set on the paint scheme made the ‘4’ itself most visible from the side.

that was a highlight for me on the whole “let’s move the number thing”

thing is... it WILL sell a lot of diecast though. The way collectors are, they will get them because they’re unique. So hopefully no one starts thinking it’s good idea to repeat again based on merchandise sales or something.

I wonder if the diecast will come with underglow? :laugh:
It will be an available option
 

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I guess will be okay other than....
This is just another part of NASCARs radicalization of the sport. The manufactured Bristol illuminated underglow experimenting is just another step. They will be wanting to use curb feelers next and by then it will he too late.

The curb feelers will not just be paesthetically bad, they will be used for traction control. The elders of AI will start out innocently using the whiskers to track every tiled grid spot on the track and it will seem like they are just simply converting it to Steve LatarteYap, BurtonYap, or JrYap. The YAP trackers will then do segments about lane choices and profiling every drivers grid DNA.

Intiallies it will just seem more like the expected every grid spot count mindless torture they put on the people. But it is just another planned part of a crafted diversion to distract fans from things like the actual traction control, the push rod length tech and so forth.

All while the big money teams will have instant profiles for each grid mark and utilize it into the drivers lane choice assist software to choose the best groove instantly. By 2025 fans will be wearing super doppler tee shirts to honor teams with the best Vortexes. There will even be new pick up lines to use on the hawtest nerd wimmins with suggestive comments about her vortex ratios and so forth. Vortexan snobbery will be a real thing and shun the simple gearheads.

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NASCAR just needs to rely on the traditional and genuine sparks of night racing, traditional number locations, real paint and decals.
 

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Seriously I wish Nascar would minimize the requirements. This isn't a performance issue so why not give the teams some room for expression to knock off some needless conformity. Let the individual team(s) decide on their numbered quarter panel or door location etc.....
Just require a number somewhere on the side and top with a minimal size requirement to ensure they easily are seen.

I can't think of any negative or unintended consequences and there could always be a ruling body to deal with any one off cases that went wrong.
 

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It’s too obvious they’re gonna do this number placement change at one point or another... nascar has their minds made up and at this point they’ve just been tryin to ‘warm up’ the fan base with a really gradual introduction to the change.

It would be ridiculous if I changed my viewing habits on such a change, as it won’t affect what the cars do on the race track...

but I really do dislike the idea of forcing the numbers back. Everyone has their own preferences... but personally I just don’t think it looks that good. Ok... I don’t think it looks good at all.

I agree with those saying to loosen the requirements and allow teams the chance to move the number if their sponsors desire to do so... or leave it centered on the door... don’t see why it needs to be one way or the other...

you could give everyone a little of what they want. But, that’s where that idea stops... lol
 

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It’s too obvious they’re gonna do this number placement change at one point or another... nascar has their minds made up and at this point they’ve just been tryin to ‘warm up’ the fan base with a really gradual introduction to the change.

It would be ridiculous if I changed my viewing habits on such a change, as it won’t affect what the cars do on the race track...

but I really do dislike the idea of forcing the numbers back. Everyone has their own preferences... but personally I just don’t think it looks that good. Ok... I don’t think it looks good at all.

I agree with those saying to loosen the requirements and allow teams the chance to move the number if their sponsors desire to do so... or leave it centered on the door... don’t see why it needs to be one way or the other...

you could give everyone a little of what they want. But, that’s where that idea stops... lol
Very well said. I feel the same as you to a T. I hate it, for the fact to me that it looks stupid. I don’t know how else to say it. It’s very obvious they are going to do this and if so oh well. I’ll still be watching every week.
 

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Very well said. I feel the same as you to a T. I hate it, for the fact to me that it looks stupid. I don’t know how else to say it. It’s very obvious they are going to do this and if so oh well. I’ll still be watching every week.
It is tough to judge the look because sponsors haven't had any experience with it. I think rear quarter panel numbers could make paint schemes look sleek once they have enough time to refine the design
 

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It is tough to judge the look because sponsors haven't had any experience with it. I think rear quarter panel numbers could make paint schemes look sleek once they have enough time to refine the design
You're probably not wrong. To me its not the way a stock car is supposed to look, when I started watching as a child in the late 80's and early 90's thats what I fell in love with. To me, this makes the car look like a Fast&Furious, Rally, DTM or that type of deal. Which look cool and nice an all that but I dunno it just doesnt fit a stock car IMO.
 

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The whole reason numbers are all in the same spot on the cars is for manual score keeping that took place many years ago. Being able to pick “your favorite” driver out of a pack of cars at speed has become difficult with teams going to multiple primary sponsor and sponsors brands, but nothing is going to change that
 

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It's just a number, but if we see schemes like this with some creativity... I don't see why fans get hurt over a number being slid back.

Fans are making this a bigger story than what it really is.

I would like to see more drivers be able to show a bit more personality with more TV spots/commercials as well. I feel that is one of the biggest issues with NASCAR now, but that's my take on a situation that has nothing to do with how the car performs on track.
 

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Nascar could still be gauging fan base response before they make a final decision (assuming they don't already have tunnel vision on this one).

The potential for better looking designs is there, if sponsors creative team are putting in the effort.

I think it would look awkward seeing a mixed bag of centered number and slid back number cars on track, as far as uniformity.

Either way, I'm pretty torn on it, could look pretty good or mildly bad, depending on execution.

Nascar gets hit with resistance in these spots because of their history of unnecessary changes year after year. Fans getting upset is a good sign that they haven't stopped caring yet.
 

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It’s too obvious they’re gonna do this number placement change at one point or another... nascar has their minds made up and at this point they’ve just been tryin to ‘warm up’ the fan base with a really gradual introduction to the change.

It would be ridiculous if I changed my viewing habits on such a change, as it won’t affect what the cars do on the race track...

but I really do dislike the idea of forcing the numbers back. Everyone has their own preferences... but personally I just don’t think it looks that good. Ok... I don’t think it looks good at all.

I agree with those saying to loosen the requirements and allow teams the chance to move the number if their sponsors desire to do so... or leave it centered on the door... don’t see why it needs to be one way or the other...

you could give everyone a little of what they want. But, that’s where that idea stops... lol

It's obvious they want to push the number back to the quarter panel and this is just the first step in doing so.
 

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I think this looks good, and thats the key, the schemes need to be done differently to incorporate the different number placement, and we didnt see that with ASR, it was the same schemes with the numbers pushed back.
 

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I think this looks good, and thats the key, the schemes need to be done differently to incorporate the different number placement, and we didnt see that with ASR, it was the same schemes with the numbers pushed back.
That owl would look awesome on the hood of the car too.
 

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The advertising is more important the number. Nascar is talking about rolling it out in 2022, so those with number fetishes have until next year if then until they change the placement. Hell some of the IMSA's are driving around with lit billboards these days.

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