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As I mentioned in another thread, the Impala is high on my list when I buy a car next year. One of my all time favorite designs for a modern car.
But why market it to a mostly blue collar audience? What was the point in building up demand in a mass market with a niche product your audience couldn't find, and couldn't afford if they did find it?
See what Ford is doing with the GT over in IMSA? That's how you sell a niche car, by targeting a audience more able to afford a $60K performance car (and the fuel and insurance for same).
Acknowledged, and yet the Truck series struggles to find an audience. Go figure. Maybe NASCAR is showcasing the wrong series?GM's goal is marketing a brand, not sports car sales NASCAR isn't about selling cars for the manufacturers, it's about selling pickup trucks with their large production runs and high profit margins. NASCAR fans buy lots a pickups.
@2 Sweet the new Impala is gorgeous it is truly the first Chevy that I've really really really liked that was made after 197x I hit a deer with my Explorer and it had to be in the body shop for a few weeks so by choice I rented a 2017 Impala Premier or premium whatever it's called and it was awesome. On the other hand that Malibu is about the most disgusting car in the market who designed that piece of junk
I spend far more time on the inside looking out than I do on the outside looking in. Exterior appearance is near the bottom of my criteria.I saw a Malibu LTZ or something the other day, and in person it isn't quite so hideous, but it's still not a good looking car IMO. The Impala is on a whole nother planet in terms of attractiveness. I would say it's like comparing Mila Kunis to Kathy Bates
The truck series was supposed to be the next great thing. Sometimes marketing doesnt workAcknowledged, and yet the Truck series struggles to find an audience. Go figure. Maybe NASCAR is showcasing the wrong series?
I used to watch the truck and lower series racing to see the up and coming drivers.I have no interest in watching a cup driver drop down to a lower series and dominate a race.I am disappointed Chevy dropped the SS leaving only Dodge with a rear wheel drive V8 family sedan.The truck series was supposed to be the next great thing. Sometimes marketing doesnt work
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The interior finish is cheap. Ford does a much better job. I was a little lifelong Chevrolet buyer but Ford is making better cars these days.As I mentioned in another thread, the Impala is high on my list when I buy a car next year. One of my all time favorite designs for a modern car.
I think they're both making great cars. I'd consider a Fusion, but I won't buy a car made in Mexico and my parents already have a Taurus that I drive quite often. As much as I love it, I'd rather get something different. I can't rule it out, though.The interior finish is cheap. Ford does a much better job. I was a little lifelong Chevrolet buyer but Ford is making better cars these days.
True. But the Impala is a great looking car, whereas the new Malibu, well......
Acknowledged, and yet the Truck series struggles to find an audience. Go figure. Maybe NASCAR is showcasing the wrong series?
I think they're making the Fusions in Michigan now.I think they're both making great cars. I'd consider a Fusion, but I won't buy a car made in Mexico and my parents already have a Taurus that I drive quite often. As much as I love it, I'd rather get something different. I can't rule it out, though.
They made base models there for a while, but that was dropped when the market started to shift toward SUVs.I think they're making the Fusions in Michigan now.
Oh OK, I had just remembered reading somewhere that they moved some of the production to Michigan because the Mexico plant couldn't handle the demand.They made base models there for a while, but that was dropped when the market started to shift toward SUVs.
I don't think it's too expensive considering everything you get. It's a limited production car by design, so I'm not really sure what the intent was by featuring it in Nascar. But I do appreciate that they are the only Cup manufacturer racing a RWD, V8 platform.
I'm bummed about Holden. A lot of GM's coolest cars were made in Australia. I'll be sad to see something cool like the SS replaced by something lame like the Malibu.
What about the Charger?The Ford T-Bird was the last car on the track that was RWD with an available V8.
What about the Charger?
Add to that the fact that for the same money you can get an SRT8 Charger, which has a lot more power and IMO is a much better looking car.GM ****** up so bad with the SS. It is a badass car with the worst, most confusing name ever. They should have just marketed it as the Commodore and actually presented it like they do all their other bull****.
I knew right off the bat this car was destined for failure. Which is sad. The only bad part about that car is the tacky chrome plastic inside and out.
How many times do I have to say that the SS wasn't a failure? It was stated from the very beginning that it would be limited production and at that time we already knew Australian production would end in a few years.
Add to that the fact that for the same money you can get an SRT8 Charger, which has a lot more power and IMO is a much better looking car.
Um, no , no it wasnt, Dodge Charger/Chevy SS both RWD with V8'sDon't even go there. The Ford T-Bird was the last car on the track that was RWD with an available V8. .
Personal preference I guess. I just think the Charger looks more like a muscle car. The SS is far from ugly, it just looks kinda bland next to the Charger IMO. Although I guess if you're into "sleeper" cars, that could be a good thing.SS is prettier than the SRT8. JMO
Personal preference I guess. I just think the Charger looks more like a muscle car. The SS is far from ugly, it just looks kinda bland next to the Charger IMO. Although I guess if you're into "sleeper" cars, that could be a good thing.
It was a failure as soon as they named it "The SS" and no one knew what particular car they were talking about. I don't understand the limited run. It was a great car.. It could have sold more units if any money was spent marketing it..
BTW: love the avi. We need more RWD V8 sedans.....
Same with the ill-fated return of the GTO. I would bought one if I could have touched it before I ordered.The Chevy SS being manufactured in Australia hurt US sales. Extremely difficult to just head to your local dealer to find one on the lot. You have to find a dealer that had open allocations and special order one. Most consumers dont have time for that, especially in today's fast paced world. Too niche of a product for sure, imo.
The Chevy SS being manufactured in Australia hurt US sales. Extremely difficult to just head to your local dealer to find one on the lot. You have to find a dealer that had open allocations and special order one. Most consumers dont have time for that, especially in today's fast paced world. Too niche of a product for sure, imo.
Um, no , no it wasnt, Dodge Charger/Chevy SS both RWD with V8's
True. A shame they couldn't move cool-Australian car production to the states. Bring the Ute's too.
Um yes it was when that was the standard NASCAR platform. All the GMs went to their FWD Luminas and Cutlass' with their 2.8 liter V6s. And the Dodge group had already quit so they weren't running anything.
Of course when Dodge came back with the Charger they had a car with that format but Ford ran that type car longer than anyone.
As far as I know know Holden will cease production of all vehicles in Australia this year joining Ford.
Yep, while I do think the Lumina/Grand Prix/Cutlass/Regal looked great as a race car, GM was the first to go to a FWD V6 platform while Ford rode it out with the Thunderbird for another half decade. I'll absolutely give Ford credit for that.
However, I think the move from the T-Bird to that fugly jelly bean Taurus sedan might be the worst downgrade in racing history.
Yep, while I do think the Lumina/Grand Prix/Cutlass/Regal looked great as a race car, GM was the first to go to a FWD V6 platform while Ford rode it out with the Thunderbird for another half decade. I'll absolutely give Ford credit for that.
However, I think the move from the T-Bird to that fugly jelly bean Taurus sedan might be the worst downgrade in racing history.