It WAS blatant, and I don't think NASCAR had much choice but to drop the hammer, but most of these situations are much more subtle, and that's where things get hairy. Do you disregard plate races (and maybe Atlanta) where it's a given that somebody will sacrifice a shot at the win whether it is to help somebody, be a good teammate or just figuring that pushing someone else gives them the best chance to get a decent finish?
He hit a guy under yellow. It's a big deal...and it cost Denny a win....a big deal. We marginalize it because it's Hendrick. Just imagine if this had been JGR.....Period.
I don't like it under green, and it is intolerable under yellow, and even the "racers" on this board understand that....but you know, Hendrick. ****** bull****.
Seriously? Really? Cost Denny a Win ? Dennys big head should be fined if something is costing him wins.
Watch the race, and then continue on with your cute posts.
Drivers have been hitting other drivers under yellow from day one. Why the sudden outrage now? Not saying it should be allowed, but I don't think the world stops because of it. Also, I could make the case that William was going to win that race and Denny ruined it for HIM. Noody here seems to care that Elliott lost a race that was in the bag because a F-ing sign fell off the wall, so why should I care about what happened to Denny?
Awesome points.
WTF. You don't **** a guy's race up under yellow. You just don't. What planet are we on?....and that's bull****....Drivers absolutely have not been spinning guys out under yellow. I mean WTF. Listen to yourself!
You mad bro? Thanks for listening. I'm impressed.....haven't used the Chicky Nuggy line in a bit....need to resurrect it I think.But but but the narrative! That's, you know, his brand! Chicky nuggy gang in mom's basement with MY Camaro 2.0 and the rest of the dislikers!!!! Period.
Okay, I understand now. Byron is to be commended for taking Denny out under yellow to prevent a concussion. Willy is such a kind soul, isn't he? Denny was not roughed up, he was spun out, los his track position, and the race. Your posts would suggest that you understand racing, so you know better than this. It is stunning that this is actually a conversation.
You can't spin a driver under yellow. No. This was a track position race--like so many are. To eliminate a guy under yellow is wrong. Period. I get that Denny drove Willy hard, but that's not anything Logano doesn't do every other lap.....and again, I am not going to commend Willy for sparing Denny a broken back or concussion. That is ridiculous. I am still pissed because every Toyota win is big to me, and I think Denny got screwed on this thing, and it isn't right. While I respect your opinion, I can't see the justification. I am guessing that NASCAR is a little nervous getting to the end of the season with this.
This is how you throw shade. Textbook example.
The penalties issued was not the point. The fact that it has and does happen quite often was the point.
He hasn’t hit a guy under yella yet.
The hell the penalties issued wasn't the point.
So you are good with the Playoff leader in Phoenix getting spun under yellow with 20 to go if "he had it coming?" Then, what the **** is the yellow for? Help me with that.....
Once again, you are trying to make it sound like I endorse this activity. I'm just pointing out it happens, and always has happened. If somebody decides that they just HAVE to settle the score with somebody, yes, I would rather it be under caution at lower speeds, ESPECIALLY with THIS car. What I DON'T want to see is what Gordon did to Bowyer, (even though I thought Bowyer deserved it) what Kenseth did to Logano, even if he IS one of my least favorite drivers, or what Edwards did to Kes. Personally, I would have suspended Carl multiple weeks for that one.
Honestly, man, I'm not sure what you are trying to say. I don't think that I said that Willy's stunt doesn't happen, my point was that it can't....and it's bull**** that he got away with it. It is even worse that a chunk of cash made it okay. I cannot get my head around your support for evening a score under yellow. First, I feel trackside workers might take issue with your position, and second, what the hell does the yellow even mean at that point? I am really blown away that this is even a topic of discussion.....but the Ex Con wields tremendous influence.
Yep.....and there is more than one crook in the garage.....of which, COACH Joe Gibbs is not one. Appreciate your posts. You make me a better fan.