sprinterv6
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The choice between the SS, Camry or Fusion from the showroom floor is obvious.
If you have $50k for an SS vs. $25k for a Fusion or Camry that is.The choice between the SS, Camry or Fusion from the showroom floor is obvious.
I made it too difficult for you to understand?
I'm very sorry. That was not my intention. Getting older can be difficult. I'll be mindful of that in future. How are the Taranna Maple Leaves doing so far this season? Is The Cup in sight yet or should I keep playing 50 Mission Cap by The T. Hip?
IMO, Skoal should call these guys and set 'em straight on what builds brands and contributes to showroom traffic...
Competition between Manufacturers extends to the showroom: Competition between NASCAR manufacturers isn't confined to the race track. In a press conference featuring executives from Chevrolet, Ford and Toyota, Ed Laukes of Toyota couldn't pass up an opportunity to needle Chevy's Jim Campbell. "Let me apologize for those 16 Monday mornings," Laukes quipped, referring to Toyota's 16 NASCAR Sprint Cup Series victories this season. "Let me apologize for last night," retorted Campbell, referring to the NASCAR Camping World Truck Series championship Chevrolet driver Johnny Sauter won on Friday. All NASCAR's OEMs are in the business of selling cars, and all view NASCAR racing as an invaluable resource toward that end.
"I would just say, first of all, we're a car company," Campbell said. "So being in a sport where the car and the drivers are the stars is straight right on the money for us. What we have found in this series, we get skill and reach in terms of audience. We know, because we measure closely, that our involvement in NASCAR, we see a lift in the brand. We see key image ratings for Chevrolet lifted as well. When those two things happen, good things happen in the showroom. More people put you on their shopping list. That's a fact. We see that for sure."
Ford is expanding its involvement in the NASCAR Sprint Cup Series with the addition of four-car Stewart-Haas Racing next year. "There's no secret there's a heck of an investment we all make in this sport," said Dave Pericak, director of Ford Performance. "We wouldn't be doing that if we weren't getting a return on our investment. Having said that, it's the enthusiasts that are here. We are talking to them. We are giving them what they want. At the end of the day, those are the people that go out and be the ambassadors for our companies. When somebody wants to know what they should buy, what Ford is doing, Chevy, that's who they go talk to-they talk to enthusiasts. We're really talking to the people that are going to help us carry our message forward."(NASCAR Wire Service)(11-20-2016)
The TRD group not only has fast cars, it looks like they work together. better at least from my outsider's POV.
I think they have an advantage running fewer cars with talented drivers and the resources concentrated on those cars.Finally, TRD did this with five cars. Five cars. 1-2-3-4-5. Win percentages through the roof, and unbelievable speed and reliability--although Martin's failure in 'Dega will sting for a long time. They were never supposed to win the Manufacturer's Championship with this car count. I do think that they felt that they might have a shot when/if they get to eight cars. Staggering year.....but they wanted the Driver's Championship more. Motivation to get it back in '17.
I would guess only engine block or other engine components.Question for anyone and everyone. Does anyone have an estimate of what percentage of the car Nascar uses comes from the actual manufacturer? Do they manufacture electronics, transmissions, rear ends, decals, chassis, body's etc?
TRD has done one helluva job since their conception in NASCAR. Quite deserving of respect.
I would guess only engine block or other engine components.
I'm guessing and probably wrong. More than likely aftermarket engine blocks with basic manufacturer characteristics.Thanks for responding as I didn't think it was much more then that but I wasn't sure. Not to discount the importance of the engine block but it is hard for me to get excited about a manufacturer trophy when the companies that win it don't even manufacture much of the car.
I would guess only engine block or other engine components.
Perhaps the original grill templates and mfg brand decals too.Most definitely the exhaust decals that are so crucially tuned to match a brands desired rpm profile for a given track. The Martinsville exhaust decal for example has the largest circumference, while an RP decal has a smaller one.
Perhaps the original grill templates and mfg brand decals too.Most definitely the exhaust decals that are so crucially tuned to match a brands desired rpm profile for a given track. The Martinsville exhaust decal for example has the largest circumference, while an RP decal has a smaller one.
Engine block and cylinder head castings have manufacturer part numbers. Blocks are cast by an outside supplier in Brazil.Question for anyone and everyone. Does anyone have an estimate of what percentage of the car Nascar uses comes from the actual manufacturer? Do they manufacture electronics, transmissions, rear ends, decals, chassis, body's etc?
it is hard for me to get excited about a manufacturer trophy when the companies that win it don't even manufacture much of the car.
I think they have an advantage running fewer cars with talented drivers and the resources concentrated on those cars.
Then, how did Chevy win 13 in a row? I mean, if the manufacturer does nothing, how did Chevy manage this? Perhaps they don't manufacturer the whole car, but they do engineer it.
When you are winning a trophy for manufacturing something you don't manufacture it seems rather silly and that goes for any company including Chevy, Ford and Toy. It would be like getting a park named for me because I drove by it a few times.
It was part of my bold prediction for 2016.Nobody expected Toyota to pull this off with five cars.
it's important because it sells the idea that a Camry is a trendy, high powered sedan and not some lame token of getting older.
Heck just now I saw a Camry ad on tv where two brothers were racing each other in Monaco. It just changes the perception
So you work for toyota ! congrats!
And I don't expect them to give that Crown up in the future.
It was part of my bold prediction for 2016.
I don't. Just proud.
Okay, call it the Builder's Trophy which is awarded to a Manufacturer.
I don't. Just proud.
If you are not manufacturing anything you certainly are not building anything either so a builder's trophy makes no sense. The manufacturers trophy never made much sense to me so I never really thought about it but now that I have it is smoke and mirrors especially with a common car and so many common parts.
Proud of what, what did you have to do with it?
You really should get a gig with Toyota as it would be the perfect job for you regardless of what you were hired to do.
I do understand what you are saying, but part of the fascination of this sport for me is that while the cars share so much, one manufacturer clearly outperformed the others (as did Chevy for 13 years). I think that is cool. They found details. If you come from the perspective that these are no longer stock cars, I get it, but I come from the perspective that when Toyota goes racing, this is what they can do. NASCAR is an expression of their commitment and performance IMO.
I would agree with giving JGR the first place ribbon of the year as they were the the group of men and women who put everything together over and over again and whipped the field day in and day out. Bear in mind that I am not knocking Toyota as I plan on buying another Tundra this afternoon unless something goes sideways.
I don't get it either as if my child or grandchild excels in something I am really proud because they are part of me and part of my life. If Coke beats Pepsi in a taste test and I am a Coke drinker it doesn't make me proud or happy or sad or anything for that matter. Whatever makes a person happy is fine but instead of just enjoying it some folks also attempt to justify what they like as important or something to be feted when in fact is nothing. If a person gets exited about Chevy, Ford or Toyota winning a manufacturers trophy for not building or manufacturing something that is their business. However don't make it out to be something of significance or importance to others as it doesn't pass the smell test.
So did you get that Tundra?I would agree with giving JGR the first place ribbon of the year as they were the the group of men and women who put everything together over and over again and whipped the field day in and day out. Bear in mind that I am not knocking Toyota as I plan on buying another Tundra this afternoon unless something goes sideways.