No I think we were content with the 4 Superspeedway races being accepted what they are and now there’s 6. All the arguments some of us “knuckleheads” that you can’t directly quote wanted more horsepower at the intermediates.
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No I think we were content with the 4 Superspeedway races being accepted what they are and now there’s 6. All the arguments some of us “knuckleheads” that you can’t directly quote wanted more horsepower at the intermediates.
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Too young for most of them to know that Bruton Smith with Humpty Wheeler are some of the best promotional showman in the world and his son hasn't fallen far from the tree. But they think they know better what is good for the sport. lol
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That too.
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Thought never crossed my mind. But put the goal posts where you want them.
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Isn’t it amazing how hard people will try to influence the opinions of complete strangers they’ll likely never meet?
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its crazy. I would just get.....fatigued after a while.
There’s no goalpost. Daytona & Talladega weren’t made into pack racing out of just pure entertainment.
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I'm just showing them the error of their ways.
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When they were made cars werent gonna fly in to the stands. Pack racing, Filling grandstands since 1988 and people are still whining.
Go back and find a post of me whining about any Daytona or Talladega race.
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Oh lovely, a Messiah complex!I'm just showing them the error of their ways.
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You have to work up to it young sprout
Nah. I’ll be ok.Bobby you should go back downstairs where you are safe. These guys are eating you alive up here.
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I don't know if you whine about those two or not, but you sure as hell are whining about Atlanta lol
They’re starting to sound like the everything’s-great, corporate booth gerbils.
Yeah damn right. For someone that watches sprint cars all the time you’d think you’d understand some of our points of view.
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I know we'll never see it again, but I'd like to see Atlanta back to the way it was from 1960-1997, pre-quad oval days.
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It's for their own good.Oh lovely, a Messiah complex!
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I don't care which track they are racing on I'm going to watch if I'm not busy. They can race around Wal-Mart parking lot, and I will watch. 
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if it's one thing about Bobby in the time I've been here....... he aint afraid to get his hands a little dirty.
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Oh but I do, but the rational side of the coin says just what in the hell are you going to do about it. Sit on the pity pot I guess. Atlanta isn't going to change to suit you, me or anybody else....period.
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Thats it, time to get it right!Oh lovely, a Messiah complex!
Nah it’s a discussion forum. You are free to put me on ignore if you don’t like my opinion.
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so if I may..... (im going to be really late getting back here) if we dont like it.....too bad. That sounds like what my father would tell me when I was a child, I goofed up and had to deal with the consequences.
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welp. look at your options. Bang your head on the wall and it won't change a thing
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Does everybody think racing at Atlanta stay like a plate track? In a few years as the track surface gets older and rougher will they be able to stay full throttle the entire race? I doubt it so it may only race like a plate track for a few years.
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This. I was thinking the same thing. They were already having handling problems on the new surface and the track isn't at all configured like the other two super speedways, so who knows what is going to happen when it ages a bit. I hope it doesn't morf into a one laner.
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I think after a few years it definitely will have off throttle time.
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I like banging my head on the wall. It feel so GOOD when I quit.welp. look at your options. Bang your head on the wall and it won't change a thing
Charlie Spencer
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If so, SMI will be disappointed. The oft-stated long term goal was to replicate the racing at Daytona and Talladega.
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Who said that? Just curious
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Give me a day or two, please. I've linked to the original SMI release in one of the early threads on this topic, but it may take me a bit to find it.
Charlie Spencer
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Okay, I've found a post where I quoted from the SMI statement. Hopefully I can work from the quote to find the actual announcement. I don't know about my ability to search Twitter, Facebook, or other social media so hopefully the actual announcement is out there somewhere.
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I agree about the undertray/diffuser on these Nascars. That 'Car & Driver' article that SOI linked said the diffusers will be track-specific, which I had not heard previously. But the next gen Nascars have so many other levers that can be pulled to create the desired style of racing. I think we...
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"The stated goal from SMI director of operations Steve Swift and track president Brandon Hutchison is to break the mold of so-called cookie cutter mile and a half tracks by creating something that more closely resembles the racing product at Daytona and Talladega each year."
EDIT: Okay, the line I quoted above is from a Matt Weaver story on Yahoo Sports:
NASCAR Drivers Lament Lack of Input in Decision to Reconfigure Atlanta
Speedway Motorsports Inc. wants Atlanta to become a pack race like Daytona, Talladega.
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I would be very pleased if after a few years when the track ages that tire wear, greater race strategy and most importantly..off throttle time played a part again at Atlanta while also having current pack racing at the beginning of a run and obviously at restarts would be a happy medium for all. In my estimation, The Great Unknown is what the racing at this track will look like in 3-5 years and the proceeding years after that.
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Comical. They are the ones that turned Atlanta into a Charlotte replica and built Texas the same way. It's their fault for the cookie cutter tracks.Okay, I've found a post where I quoted from the SMI statement. Hopefully I can work from the quote to find the actual announcement. I don't know about my ability to search Twitter, Facebook, or other social media so hopefully the actual announcement is out there somewhere.
'21 Generation 7 Car news
I agree about the undertray/diffuser on these Nascars. That 'Car & Driver' article that SOI linked said the diffusers will be track-specific, which I had not heard previously. But the next gen Nascars have so many other levers that can be pulled to create the desired style of racing. I think we...
"The stated goal from SMI director of operations Steve Swift and track president Brandon Hutchison is to break the mold of so-called cookie cutter mile and a half tracks by creating something that more closely resembles the racing product at Daytona and Talladega each year."
EDIT: Okay, the line I quoted above is from a Matt Weaver story on Yahoo Sports:
NASCAR Drivers Lament Lack of Input in Decision to Reconfigure Atlanta
Speedway Motorsports Inc. wants Atlanta to become a pack race like Daytona, Talladega.currently.att.yahoo.com
StandOnIt
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Huh?
During a 1987 race at Talladega, the car of Bobby Allison hit the catch-fencing at over 200mph.
After that, NASCAR sought ways to reduce engine power and top speeds in a bid to improve safety.