Cup RACE thread: Martinsville

[Clutch]

Give it to Bell

 

[Jorge De Guzman]

Honestly, I don't even care what happens with the "final four" BS. The championship hasn't mattered much since the Winston Cup era, IMO. I'm just here to enjoy the racing and hoping my guys compete for wins. The championship is a cool bonus, but it'll never have the same prestige it once held

Winner, winner. Love this thinking.

 

[cheesepuffs]

DQ both of them and put Larson and Hamlin in at this point


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My first reaction was to agree with this, but then think about it:

If you remove the 24 and 20 only to put the 5 and 11 in, then Hendrick and Gibbs still win even after manipulating the race. Just different car numbers in the title hunt for them instead.

What a mess.

 

[Truex_rox]

If this stands as it is though, hell I’ve got to admit that the final four lineup is intriguing. I have no idea who to pull for. Maybe Blaney for the repeat? At least his body of work this year is much improved compared to 2023.

 

[LibertyU24]

Hard disagree here too.

There was manipulation that was going on there too. And a suspicious radio chatter about how the 24 should let the 5 win.

24 had no control of what the other drivers did. It should just come down to Bell riding the wall.

 

[BobbyFord]

The new generation running this sport is ******* everything up.

 

[Mispeedway15]

My first reaction was to agree with this, but then think about it:

If you remove the 24 and 20 only to put the 5 and 11 in, then Hendrick and Gibbs still win even after manipulating the race. Just different car numbers in the title hunt for them instead.

What a mess.

Everyone, Blaney, Reddick and Logano are in! There is only one spot

 

[TexasRaceLady]

 

[AndyMarquisLive]

24 had no control of what the other drivers did. It should just come down to Bell riding the wall.

Truex had no control over what Bowyer did at Richmond in 2013.

 

[jaqua19]

Disagree. They were probably terrified that Byron would wreck the hell out of them

Oh stop it

 

[Truex_rox]

Is there actually a crazy chance they DQ the 24 and 20 for race manipulation and put the 5 in ?

That’s the guy who merits a spot along with, say, Tyler Reddick. The two most complete seasons produced by anyone this year have come from them and their respective teams.

 

[KTMLew01]

I agree with this.

Let Harry Gant have the 4th spot.

 

[BobbyFord]

He was already in the transfer spot when he got in the fence.

 

[cheesepuffs]

24 had no control of what the other drivers did. It should just come down to Bell riding the wall.

Don't think of it like Byron as much as the team and Chevy. The 24 car was the beneficiary of race manipulation. It's nothing against Byron, it's the team.

 

[Dr_B_UNC]

Bell’s rotors are glowing red entering 3. Not a full hail melon send. Shady? Sure. But Byron’s protection was as bad or worse.

 

[The Nature Boy]

24 had no control of what the other drivers did. It should just come down to Bell riding the wall.

Truex had no control over Bowyer spinning but he was still kicked out of The Chase.

 

[jaqua19]

This should be the last nail in the coffin for the elimination format, but Nascar created it for this very reason so we're likely stuck with it for the near future.

This

 

[LibertyU24]

Byron has more press hanging out with him

 

[Blaze]

He was already in the transfer spot when he got in the fence.

Again, what’s the actual rule? Is it no wall riding or no advancing position?

 

[Jorge De Guzman]

“Take your time and get it right” Quintessential NASCAR lmao

 

[2 Sweet]

Hamlin didn't make it, so I'm happy lol

 

[Dr_B_UNC]

Manufactures completely manipulated this race. Obviously I’m biased towards Byron. Bring the 10 race format back

This. Either true season points or the Chase.

 

[Mispeedway15]

I think you gotta pull it from Bell. Bubba clearly hammed it and slowed up. There is no SMT data proving they did not intentionally pass Byron. Bubba slowed down intentionally

 

[jaqua19]

This. Either true season points or the Chase.

I still think the Chase was the best format we ever had.

 

[Kiante]

Now, this is what I understand.

Bubba was having similar brake issues to Reddick. So he was managing it.

The Chastain and Dillon thing, if they did not go 100% and then a call was put into block blantantly... Yeah, that is wild if that happened.

Bell did not advance any positions after riding the wall either. Got to check data and transcripts from communications. Him being a lap down kinda helps him in this situation.

Sanctioning body is going to have to really take their time and sift through this.

 

[Dr_B_UNC]

Hamlin didn't make it, so I'm happy lol

We’re missing the big picture here. THIS. Byron will be by far the darkest horse with the other three.

 

[AndyMarquisLive]

All of the manipulation should offset. Let it stand as is and issue penalties to the 23, 48, 1 and 3.

 

[SeventyGTX]

24 had no control of what the other drivers did. It should just come down to Bell riding the wall.

He gained no spots on the wall ride, Bubba backed up before that.

 

[34R7H130UND]

Put clint bowyer in the 20, Jeff in the 24, have a final 5. Maybe Jeff will get another chip

 

[2 Sweet]

Couldn't care less what happens with the fourth spot. Go Blaney

 

[AdoubleU24]

Y'all are some sickos if you're calling for a double DQ to let Larson in lol.

 

[REBS31]

The results of the Electoral College are going to be known before who’s in the Championship at this rate

 

[BobbyFord]

NASCAR officials consulting the Magic 8 ball.

 

[Dr_B_UNC]

I still think the Chase was the best format we ever had.

I’m old school and prefer Winston Cup points system, but if we have to compromise then Chase it is.

 

[Jorge De Guzman]

This hog wash completely overshadowed Blaney’s championship drive, dug deep and found a way but now we have these theatrics that is a result of a gimmick points system.

 

[SlicedBread22]

Team orders for everyone!! Lol what a cluster**** .. I believe Bubba had a tire going down more than I'm ok with the 3 and 1 blocking the field and not passing the 24 intentionally

 

[jaqua19]

Y'all are some sickos if you're calling for a double DQ to let Larson in lol.

The only DQ should be to the system

 

[antman12]

Friendly reminder that Blaney just whooped the fields ass in a must win race. Incredible.

 

[SeventyGTX]

I still think the Chase was the best format we ever had.

No, none of these gimmicks are needed for great racing.

 

[Brentford]