Cup RACE thread --- Richmond

Discussion in 'NASCAR chat' started by TexasRaceLady, Apr 13, 2019.

  1. mack

    mack Team Owner

    I hear ya man. But, that was one outstanding short track race. Kudos to NASCAR!!! They get dumped on all the time. They deserve a thunderous round of applause for that show!!!!
     
  2. gnomesayin

    gnomesayin Team Owner

    I'm with you in spirit about the aero package. Would sure be a lot more to my taste with last year's downforce levels. Still a very intense battle between the top three at the end. Dale Jr. says a lot of stuff that makes sense and then an equal amount of stuff that doesn't or contradicts it. I don't think he quite knows what he wants, but he's fun to listen to.
     
  3. StandOnIt

    StandOnIt Farm Truck

    yep margin of victory was 178 thousands of a second compared to three quarters of a second last year with a couple of cars for most of the last quarter of the last stage fighting for the win. It keeps getting better.
     
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  4. Snappy D

    Snappy D 2017 Pick Em Champion 2018 Bold Predictor

    I love his podcast but you’re right. Sometimes he finds himself caught between analyst/network Dale and driver/authentic Dale. He kind of goes back and forth on some stuff but Davis walks him back.
     
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  5. ChexOrWrex

    ChexOrWrex Ya gotta wanna

    Oh I’m not taking anything away from the drivers. They are all elite, race as hard as they can with what they are givin and know exactly what to do to get the best result. My gripes are rarely ever with the drivers.
     
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  6. Spotter22

    Spotter22 Team Owner

    Why did he get mired behind the 19? Oh I know! He couldnt pass him. Also he never "Tracked anyone down from a half straight away back" it was 2 seconds and that was going through traffic. You watch a different race then the other 5 million people do, thats for damn sure.
     
  7. ChexOrWrex

    ChexOrWrex Ya gotta wanna



    “Why was he mired behind him? Because he couldn’t pass!” is a statement is absolutely zero critical thought. Which is par for the course.
     
  8. StandOnIt

    StandOnIt Farm Truck

    and Dale Jr said..I had to laugh a bit at that or any driver saying it's hard to pass for that matter. It's a good excuse, works sometimes, but the stats don't lie.
     
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  9. StandOnIt

    StandOnIt Farm Truck

    Some of the same ones were saying that this year teams like Chastain's would be able to run up front.
     
  10. Snappy D

    Snappy D 2017 Pick Em Champion 2018 Bold Predictor

    This is just....bad. They are in trouble. What do they need, how do they fix it??
     
  11. Spotter22

    Spotter22 Team Owner

    hmmmm, critical thought. Lets see, hmmmmm......... Oh i know! The other car was faster! hmmmm, why was he faster? Im gonna go with speed and handling. What you got ?
     
  12. ChexOrWrex

    ChexOrWrex Ya gotta wanna

    Enough money to buy JGR engineers.
     
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  13. StandOnIt

    StandOnIt Farm Truck

    besides Elliott having loose lug nuts and having to come back in, the Hendrick cars ran penalty free. and didn't have speed.
     
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  14. Snappy D

    Snappy D 2017 Pick Em Champion 2018 Bold Predictor

    They are just so behind the others right now, never thought I’d see Hendrick fall so far behind. They’ve always been at the front. I have zero idea how they recover and get back there, I have ideas but I’m only a fan. I’d like to see what they are doing, the questions they are asking, what they think is wrong and how they are going about fixing it.
     
  15. Turtle84

    Turtle84 Chastain Supporter

    Dude has a serious point, lots of aeroage out there.
     
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  16. StandOnIt

    StandOnIt Farm Truck

    the dude hasn't watched many short track races. Ol single lane Bristol comes to mind, and on the same Richmond track is where Sr put DW into the fence and wiped them both out..It's shown numerous times on high light shows
     
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  17. Snappy D

    Snappy D 2017 Pick Em Champion 2018 Bold Predictor

    I agree in a way that the short track races I watched and always liked where it was hard to pass. Old Bristol was a one groove track where it was hard to pass a guy for laps at a time, I felt tonight was like that in a way whether it was aero or just back to running at night but I’m not complaining tonight at least. Found the racing awesome, hope there’s more of that.
     
  18. Mispeedway15

    Mispeedway15 Team Owner

    Pretty much all racing does anymore.

    As for Hendrick I think it’s less team and more manufacturer. Heck I’m a NASCAR loving guy from Toledo Ohio just a stones throw from Detroit, yet there’s a reason I wanted to be an engineer for Honda and Toyota.

    Quite simply GM is behind the times and it shows. Why do you think Chrysler is handing out massive bonuses while GM is rolling with major layoffs? TRD and Ford Performance are handing it to Chevrolet Motorsports, and Honda is rolling in Indy as well
     
  19. StandOnIt

    StandOnIt Farm Truck

    Dale Jr say :D
     
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    StandOnIt Farm Truck

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    StandOnIt Farm Truck

  22. Turtle84

    Turtle84 Chastain Supporter

    Yikes. What does single lane Bristol have to do with the aerowake we saw tonight? Great race with what we're saddled with for this year. But, man the defenders of "the package" are in straight denial. It's nothing even close to the old school' racing we used to see.
     
  23. Spotter22

    Spotter22 Team Owner

    155 green flag laps at the end and a finish within 1 second! In the words of one of our own from here at racing -forums .com "do you really get excited about Richmond?" lol
     
  24. Spotter22

    Spotter22 Team Owner

    What "aero wake" ? Seriously what race did you watch and please go back ANY year since racing began and show me the differnce. I've been watching/doing it since 1974. Todays racing is miles better. Aero push is an excuse for getting your ass whipped.
     
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  25. Turtle84

    Turtle84 Chastain Supporter

    If you didn't see "aero wake", I would need to question which race you watched as well.
     
  26. StandOnIt

    StandOnIt Farm Truck

    e yeah buddy, 4 cars after 155 laps within a second of each other tonight with an epic battle the closing laps compared to one car finishing 3/4's of a second ahead of second last year. Gimmie more aero wake whatever that is. :p
     
  27. Turtle84

    Turtle84 Chastain Supporter

    Yeehaw. I rated it a 10. Doesn't change the amount of aero involved on a short track.

    #PackageDenial
     
  28. Snappy D

    Snappy D 2017 Pick Em Champion 2018 Bold Predictor

    AeroWake sounds like a band name. It should be the official band of Racing-Forums
     
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  29. Ventisca

    Ventisca Team Owner Contributor

    If NASCAR gives you "Aero-push" -- then you have an obligation to your Team to use "Bumper-push", especially on a short track

    Bowyer should've moved MTJ and Logano should've moved Brad -- stop complaining and get to work on those bumpers and quarter-panels (sometimes doors :D)...
     
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  30. Switchback

    Switchback Team Owner

    I thought it was a great race but let's be honest. The only reason the 22 and 4 got pulled into that battle was cause the 19 slowed down that badly and the 14 couldn't get by. Had Clint been able to clear him, he would of been long gone and the margin of victory would likely been measured in seconds.
    As far as why he couldn't get by, I'll let you guys who love arguing this stuff take care of that.:D
     
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  31. Zerkfitting

    Zerkfitting Team Owner

    Truex earned the win. There was plenty of good racing throughout the field.
     
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  32. Mark

    Mark Spectator

    Second straight top 10 for Menard. Normally, nothing to write home about but he's moved up 5 positions in the standings and he normally sucks at RIR.
     
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  33. StandOnIt

    StandOnIt Farm Truck

    same thing happened the day before. Faster car couldn't pass the leader numerous times.
     
  34. kyle18fan

    kyle18fan Proud member of Rowdy Nation Contributor

    I seem to remember someone last week suggesting that Truex " is worthless " :lol2: and that Bell should get his ride :rolleyes:. Martin drove a fine race imo
     
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  35. Turtle84

    Turtle84 Chastain Supporter

    I am actually really happy that MTJ won this thing, and finally closed the deal at this place. I was praying for it to stay green the whole way through since he's lost on late yellows so many times over the years. A lot of pressure must be lifted off of his back for this season with new team on Gibbs. Great race and result, rememberable.
     
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  36. StandOnIt

    StandOnIt Farm Truck

    Truex won it fair and square. Boyer and Logano delivered a one two punch and he was still standing at the end. Boyer tried until he used up his stuff and Logano came along next and he couldn't get done either. Honorable mention to Harvick's try, they were too little too late. Good race I thought after the pay window opened, the fast ones came to the front and a good battle to watch.
     
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  37. Ventisca

    Ventisca Team Owner Contributor

    I hope Erik Jones remembers when Holy Joe came for Denny's pit box last year

    do he's not caught off guard...
     
  38. ChexOrWrex

    ChexOrWrex Ya gotta wanna

    I asked “who actually gets excited for richmond” and it was a question that many answered positively. Good.
     
  39. Madman88

    Madman88 Crew Chief


    Yea, god forbid you have a rules package that allows for cars to go from good to bad over a particular run so you have cars coming and going based on more than just where they came out of the pits and are now in dirty error. tire wear, setups, what are those again???

    He makes no mention of passing, drivers making great moves, or anything performance related. Let's just focus on how many cars are as close as possible at the end of the race because if they are all in the TV frame at the end of the race it must have been a good race, right???

    Better idea, let's just make the rules so that no cars can run faster than a certain posted lap time. If you exceed this lap time your engine will loose a cylinder for the next lap so you are punished for going to fast. After that lap your engine will be restored to full working capacity unless you exceed the posted lap time again. If you do, the next lap the cylinder will be down again.
     
  40. Spotter22

    Spotter22 Team Owner

    Every bit of that happened Saturday night. You guys are overeacting. Richmond had basically 3 grooves to run, I watched cars come from the 20's in to the top 10, why? They were faster, when they got to the top 10 things got tougher, why? Those guys are fast also and its gonna be tougher to pass. The racing was fantastic.
     

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