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Alli and Danica are both fugly.
Danica Patrick needs to cut out the crap on TV
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buckaroo
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There is one or two things that you people are forgetting. Danica has won an IRL race, she has qualified at the top and almost won the Indy 500. You can talk all you want about the other women who raced in the ARCA race, but none of them have the resume that Danica has. Yes, yes, yes, the coverage was over board, but if you can just put yourself on the other side of the picture, say that you are either NASCAR or ISC, and for that matter, GoDaddy.com, ask yourself how much has all the press helped you? Slam her if you like, but if you had any financial interest in her, my guess is that you would quite possibly say that she didn't get enough.
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I suppose there is a lot of jealousy and perhaps that is why we are seeing criticism. many should re-read Betsy's post.
ted@economy
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BINGO..
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Curves
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I don't agree with Betsy or the rest of you and I am jealous? Yeah right thanks for that analysis, I just don't know how I would sleep at night w/o the advice of the people on here. 
I DON'T agree with you, the commercials (GoDaddy) are sleazy and I am not jealous. Take it or leave it.
I DON'T agree with you, the commercials (GoDaddy) are sleazy and I am not jealous. Take it or leave it.
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Curves
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Since when does looks have anything to do with talent? I can't think of one driver that falls into the 'he's so hot' category, but they have talent (at least some anyway).
The 'hype' with Danica she had in the beginning of her career waned, so she had to vamp up her image. The hype with her in Nascar will follow the same course, too bad young girls who want to race might feel the pressure to act that way to get ahead or noticed. Instead of being a good role model for women in racing, she choose to go another route. Bully for her to make money at it, to me that falls into the prostitution category. But there is my jealousy running wild again
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SlowNeasy
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that's probably true but i bet a lot more know what godaddy sells now than before it sponsored her. can't put a date on when i first checked godaddy out but i'm pretty sure it was before i ever heard the name danica patrick. it's always tried to be a hip web hosting/domain registrar. it's market is primarily younger, tach savvy customers looking for cheap reliable web hosting services. note that these are primarily younger males. danica is a good fit for what godaddy sells.
ted@economy
in the interest of equal time
Kinda like Mark Martin and Viagra..right?
buckaroo
Here kitty, kitty, kitty
Hmmm, doesn't anyone remember when Big Johnson was slapped on the side of a car?
ted@economy
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kelloggs5TLfan
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Since when does looks have anything to do with talent? I can't think of one driver that falls into the 'he's so hot' category, but they have talent (at least some anyway).The 'hype' with Danica she had in the beginning of her career waned, so she had to vamp up her image. The hype with her in Nascar will follow the same course, too bad young girls who want to race might feel the pressure to act that way to get ahead or noticed. Instead of being a good role model for women in racing, she choose to go another route. Bully for her to make money at it, to me that falls into the prostitution category. But there is my jealousy running wild again
Terry Labonte is one hot driver with talent
I agree with you on the jealousy thing. How can you be jealous of someone that has no importance in your life and you don't know. It's an opinion only.
I don't think she falls into the prostitution category. Jimmy Johnson and Michael Waltrip might with the way they pimp there products.
MRM
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What many of the drivers are doing today for sponsors are no different than what Stroker Ace did wearing that chicken suit. And they made fun of that, but it's coming true today.
MRM
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If a female athlete wants to sell/endorse something based on her looks like make up, a clothing line, or something like that, they should go for that. Many of the female golfers and tennis players put focus on their looks in their endorsements without sexing it up.
The problem is when they want to sex it up, people lose focus on their actual career. Look at Anna Kournikova and her career. She was better than 98% of the people in this country in tennis. But she wasn't playing against the bottom 98%, she was playing the top 1 or 2%. She did these calendars and other things to sex it up. It got her plenty of attention, but really opened herself up to critizism when she never won anything. The same thing will happen with Danica if she goes down the same path.
The problem is when they want to sex it up, people lose focus on their actual career. Look at Anna Kournikova and her career. She was better than 98% of the people in this country in tennis. But she wasn't playing against the bottom 98%, she was playing the top 1 or 2%. She did these calendars and other things to sex it up. It got her plenty of attention, but really opened herself up to critizism when she never won anything. The same thing will happen with Danica if she goes down the same path.
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Curves
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Terry Labonte is one hot driver with talent
I agree with you on the jealousy thing. How can you be jealous of someone that has no importance in your life and you don't know. It's an opinion only.
I don't think she falls into the prostitution category. Jimmy Johnson and Michael Waltrip might with the way they pimp there products.
ROFL I know right?
Yeah I know the prostitution thing is taking it too far, but it is demeaning in the way it is just for money. And sex sells, but as with men, women should know that they can do anything with their abilites not with their bodies.
Look at teenage girls these days...They have these bone skinny models and actresses that they see and want to be like them. Starving themselves etc. Also young girls might get the idea that they have to act sexy at far too young of an age. Which is why I take issue with the Go Daddy commercial. If one wants others to look up to them and take them seriously they have to act accordingly. If you want to be a sex symbol then fine, accept the negative attention that comes with it.
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SST55
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In 5 years of racing with 81 starts, 3 poles, 1 win, 4 podium finishes (2nd or 3rd), 41 top tens.
"Instead of being a good role model for women in racing, she choose to go another route. Bully for her to make money at it, to me that falls into the prostitution category."
Her stats coming into Na$car are just as good if not better than a good number of "star" drivers.
What is this other route of which you speak that places her in the prostitution category? That she's posed for SI and other publications skankily clad in a bikini?
My God, I just realized when I go to the beach next summer I'm going to be surrounded by prostitutes!!!
"Instead of being a good role model for women in racing, she choose to go another route. Bully for her to make money at it, to me that falls into the prostitution category."
Her stats coming into Na$car are just as good if not better than a good number of "star" drivers.
What is this other route of which you speak that places her in the prostitution category? That she's posed for SI and other publications skankily clad in a bikini?
My God, I just realized when I go to the beach next summer I'm going to be surrounded by prostitutes!!!
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Curves
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My God, I just realized when I go to the beach next summer I'm going to be surrounded by prostitutes!!!
If they are collecting money for then you betcha. Oh there goes my jealousy again
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carsntunes
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While I'm no Danica fan, SST5 brings up a good point in that we often forget the facts that she has had a some what successful career in racing. She is okay in the looks department (I personally think Ashley Force is much hotter) she attractive to sponsors in the sport. Heck Carl Edwards showed up shirtless on the ESPN cover, shirtless in the "body" issue of ESPN and in work out attire in Men's Fitness magazine and his driving skills aren't questioned.
VaDirt
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Completely incorrect. She's been doing these photo shoots and such since the beginning of her IRL career, and hasn't ramped it up at all. Hasn't "vamped it up" anymore than what she was already doing before. In fact, half of that hype that she got in the IRL in her early days was a combination of the sexy photo shoots, and the fact that she could wheel a car.
Your beliefs aren't law, and I'm sure many women are fine with what she's doing (including herself).
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Curves
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Where the hell did I say my beliefs were law? Jesus what is the topic of this thread anyway????
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Answer one question:
If you are a stock car driver and the choice comes down to:
1. Doing an Ad like Danica and get funding to continue driving.
OR
2. Turning down the Ad and putting an end to your driving career.
Which would you do?
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Curves
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Honestly I wouldn't do it. If she is as good as everyone keeps telling me she would have gotton another sponser OR they would have suited the commercial to her needs. The commercial could have been appealing w/o the sexual innuendo.
Besides that I have been informed on this very thread she did this kind of thing from the get go, so that is who she is. I don't have to like it, and she doesn't have to stop doing it.
This thread was about the commercials and someones feelings that it sends a bad message to their children. The thread author posted an opinion and I agreed. It is getting as bad as the podium here, what do I have to post a link to show why I have the opinions I have?
Let's all cool down, please.
I'm with Curves in that I really don't like the sexual innuendo in the ads. But, I also understand that money talks.
I can't say with certainty that I wouldn't have done the same thing that Danica has done. Inwardly, I may not like it -- but, again, money talks --- particularly if it enables me to continue in my chosen profession.
And please, let's remember we all have our own opinions and they are just as right as anyone else's. Let's leave the personal remarks out.
I'm with Curves in that I really don't like the sexual innuendo in the ads. But, I also understand that money talks.
I can't say with certainty that I wouldn't have done the same thing that Danica has done. Inwardly, I may not like it -- but, again, money talks --- particularly if it enables me to continue in my chosen profession.
And please, let's remember we all have our own opinions and they are just as right as anyone else's. Let's leave the personal remarks out.
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Guido
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Exactly!
She is in the driver's seat when it comes to setting the rules of what she won't do.
In my own opinion, I think the commercials are just plain stupid. But somehow I guess it appeals to some of the cruder instincts of young males.
For me it has a negative effect. I tend to ignore or even boycott businesses that have stupid or annoying commercials. Not likely that I would even visit their web site either.
Keep in mind, She was dresses just as scantly clad when she hosted Power Block on Spike TV.
She gets my $60 a year for my website. $10 for domain and $3.99 a month for hosting. Plus 24/7 english speaking tech support for no extra charge.
She gets my $60 a year for my website. $10 for domain and $3.99 a month for hosting. Plus 24/7 english speaking tech support for no extra charge.
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chromehorn
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Ha Ha. Now your a spokesperson. How much is GoDaddy paying you to tell us that?
I gotta say that this argument is really lame guys. Like anything else on TV when the commercials comes on walk away or turn the channel if you don't like it. Personally I think they are some of the dumbest commercials on the planet at the moment but I could really care less one way or the other how they twist the minds of children. Little Suzie is getting much more racey stuff from the internet, Jersey Shore, Mily Cyrus and all that other teeny bopper crap out there making it look OK for girls to dress and act like little whores. I'd rather my kids watch those stupid commercials than all the other junk out there.
buckaroo
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Commercials aren't made for people to like, though that is a plus. The object of any commercial is to get the name out there. Go Daddy's commercials are working because people are talking about it.
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chromehorn
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BOOM!!! Exactly.
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SST55
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Exactly right.
With sponsorship dollars getting tighter and tighter the team/driver is going to do what the sponsor wants as long as it isn't illegal,immoral or fattening.
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You are certainly entitled to your opinion. However, I certainly disagree with at least 2 of your points.
1. At the get-go is when it is the toughest to obtain sponsorship and when drivers will accept darn near any kind of sponsorship.
2. I worked my azz off for 3 years for a female driver in one of the top motorsport series (at that time) that had outstanding talent but yet we couldn't get sponsorship. Being good doesn't necessarily get you sponsorship. Many other things enter into the equation.
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Dionysius
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I am a predominantly open-wheel fan so this whole thread interests me. It will be fascinating how the die-hard NASCAR crowd will react to Danica trying to weasel her way into a Cup ride whether or not she deserves it. The next year or so will be the most critical for her career IF she gets a ride. So let's say she does, there are 2 options for her:
1. She does really well. Good for me because she'll leave the IRL and I won't have to put up with her garbage anymore while watching my IRL races.
2. She does poorly (like Dario Franchitti) and NASCAR fans boo her off the track and sponsors drop her like a bad habit. She'll return to the IRL a marketing shell of her former self. I will find that very amusing.
There is no in between for her. She has set the bar far too high for herself with all of her voluntary overexposure. The expectations are there like it or not.
Realistically, we all know that open wheel drivers struggle mightily with cup cars. Even Sam Hornish Jr. (a former IRL champ) does well but really isn't a top contender. Dario Franchitti (another IRL champ) flat out FAILED last year with NASCAR. Danica hasn't come close to becoming an IRL champ so why would anyone think she'd do any better?
I really hope she gets a NASCAR ride. That will be some awesome train-wreck TV.
1. She does really well. Good for me because she'll leave the IRL and I won't have to put up with her garbage anymore while watching my IRL races.
2. She does poorly (like Dario Franchitti) and NASCAR fans boo her off the track and sponsors drop her like a bad habit. She'll return to the IRL a marketing shell of her former self. I will find that very amusing.
There is no in between for her. She has set the bar far too high for herself with all of her voluntary overexposure. The expectations are there like it or not.
Realistically, we all know that open wheel drivers struggle mightily with cup cars. Even Sam Hornish Jr. (a former IRL champ) does well but really isn't a top contender. Dario Franchitti (another IRL champ) flat out FAILED last year with NASCAR. Danica hasn't come close to becoming an IRL champ so why would anyone think she'd do any better?
I really hope she gets a NASCAR ride. That will be some awesome train-wreck TV.
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Dionysius
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No double standard here...I'm calling him a bimbo too. A metro-bimbo specifically.
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LOL, you probably don't lke Jr either.
sloggie
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chromehorn
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You make some good points especially if Franchitti and Hornish, two incredibly skilled open wheel drivers, struggled so much then why in the world would anyone think she can do it? She has talent but not like those other two guys.
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Obviously open wheel skills doesn't help in Nascar. Hornish, etc may only have that type of skill. That doesn't mean that Danica or some other drivers do not have skills that could be good in Nascar.
Bucky Badger
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Exactly. To further your point even more...look at the drivers that were good in ARCA and Nationwide...but bombed in cup...Noone can know until Danica shows up and drives.
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I don't think they even mentioned Alli until she crashed! That was the sad part of the whole thing. They might have said her name a couple of times when they did the run down of the leaders, but the most objectionable thing about Danicamania was that so many good drivers were not noticed AT ALL. Alli has a write-up about how she felt about it on her Facebook page.
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WNY24Fan
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Hahaha.. at least Viagra is a real medicine. Those Extenze ads and having them on a race car when it's just some herbal thing and maybe not even that, is just pitiful. Actually, I've been told it's some kind of email scam thing by reporters in the sport, but you would think a NASCAR owner would check those things out. Then again, it's so hard to get sponsorship these days, maybe some will take whatever they can get.
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Dionysius
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This is true. You don't need to look any further than Tony Stewart for a good example. Yet another former IRL champion (1997). But Tony has a far more diverse racing background than Danica prior to the IRL or NASCAR which is what makes him so good with anything that has 4 wheels and a motor.
This brings me to something else that has always bothered me about Danica. Why isn't she racing with Andretti's ALMS team? Almost every other driver does - even Marco. While I doubt there isn't the money in ALMS as there is in the IRL but I can imagine that driving in that series helps a driver's skill immensely. Why doesn't she drive in that series? Does Michael not want her to? Does she not want to? Does she lack the skills to drive there? These are ugly questions with potentially uglier answers.