Did Elliot Manipulate the Ending of the Race?

ChexOrWrex said:
This isnt F1. There is no “I had the position” until they get cleared.

You claim to be all old school tough guy but also think that racers should just pull over when another driver has “the position”?

Pfffffft.
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Harvick was on the inside, his exhaust was even with Chase's left front tire...so Harvick had the position of strength and control, he could move Chase. Chase could not move him, why would Harvick let him take that control away? And... Harvick had just as much to lose as Chase, it could have just been as easy for Harvick to lose his right rear as Chase's left front.
 
MAGICMILER said:
Right ? !! This thread has it all. Conspiracies, Championships, other irrelevant drivers, tough guys, spell check , etc. It just needs pushrods .
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Dr_B_UNC said:
Every time we saw Chase in the whole aftermath, he was alone and without protective gear. Harv either had a helmet or 3, 4 people with him at all times. You tell me.
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When Chase gets older he will learn from the veterans like Harvick that it is much smarter leaving your protective gear on. Chase probably hasn't had his head thumped yet but if he stays out there long enough he probably will at sometime in his career. But, as I said earlier he probably knew they were just going to talk so he was pretty safe. Harvick was so pissed he probably didn't even think about his helmet still being on until he took it off and tried to beat his car roof up with it. :) .
 
Dr_B_UNC said:
Judas tapdancing priest Rev... (that's my "clean version" saying I picked up years ago from the Mormon students in dental school ;)) I NEVER SAID Chase won in any way. He got screwed out of a win. Again. It happens. I DID thoroughly enjoy his revenge on Harv and how devious and subtle it was. He didn't go charging in and dump him, he did just enough to screw Harv back. I have condemned Chase when warranted, such as the really bad move against Logano last year. Logano did EXACTLY what Chase did in return, park it in front of him to take away a line and win while laps down. Anyway, you clearly cannot be rational when Chase is involved. Just as I/we do not give JGR an inch of slack when they're in a pickle.

Oh, and Larson is reaching the final 4 by default anyway. 5 more points means all of Jack and S*** right now, so Chase wasn't helping him win the title. I'm starting to wonder if the nausea you feel when someone compliments Chase in ANY way is the same we feel when they fawn over what a strong Christian Joe Gibbs is...
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Well, thank you for recognizing the congruency between your Chase fandom and my loyalty to TRD and JGR which also congruently receives irrational babble.

Chase doesn't want Larson hot if he wants to win this, and he helped Larson potentially get hot. Harvick isn't a threat. Larson is the favorite. Bad move. His brand ran away with him.
 
jaqua19 said:
That isn't true. It's just that there is a magnifying lens on it that's influenced by his brand and his marketability.

I'm going to make a simple case that I made earlier. Chase races hard. He always has. He's aggressive. He's not dirty. I'm not saying that. But he's an aggressive driver. He's a young champion aggressive driver who also happens to be the most popular driver in the field. Contact is going to happen. Fights are going to happen. Sometimes it's racing incidents. Sometimes it isn't. Bristol is one of those cases where it was a racing incident. Now my take is that Elliot fans operating him as the victim and Harvick the perpetrator. But really it was just a high pressure moment and intense track racing. And frustration Chase had towards Harvick boiled over and exploded in this particular case. Nothing wrong with that. I think what most are saying is that Kevin didn't get into him intentionally and didn't deliberately run him over. And for what it's worth, Chase may even agree with that considering him saying that whether it was intentional or not doesn't matter. This incident wasn't about Bristol. It was about whatever beef already exists. Harvick didn't intend to get into him. Elliot seems to be aware that that might be the case, but at that point he doesn't care.

Some of his fans, like Chex, have called it like it is and acknowledge that Chase is without sin.

What Rev (and admitly me) are challenging is the idea that to some of Chase's fans, every time there's an issue, he's the victim. Sometimes he is. Other times, it's just hard racing.

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Harvick did not get into him intentionally. Given that, what the hell message is Chase sending with all of this bull****? Don't race me hard? Don't get close to me? So, I guess my point is that Chase should care whether or not what Harvick did was intentionally because it is central to whatever message he is trying to send. I feel like Chase Nation grabs their crotches and readies for a battle that will never come....all to add to the legend. Oh my God, I have spent the week defending Harvick! What's next? A pandemic? Wait.
 
Dr_B_UNC said:
Every time we saw Chase in the whole aftermath, he was alone and without protective gear. Harv either had a helmet or 3, 4 people with him at all times. You tell me.
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What has Chase EVER done to suggest to you that Harvick would be afraid of him?
 
jaqua19 said:
Nope, I agree here.

Chase feels justified and is upkeeping his own boundary. Intentional or not, "I'm not tolerating it anymore". This incident was a trigger to that.

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What is he being asked to tolerate? I don't get it. Who is after Chase? Brand and narrative. Good vs. Evil.
 
Formerjackman said:
To me, Chase doesn't seem like the kind of guy that is all that concerned about his "brand' or what the"narrative" is. That's one of the reason I like him.
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Nonsense. His brand and his image are part of his paycheck....and if he doesn't care about that, he is as entitled as some suggest.
 
Revman said:
What has Chase EVER done to suggest to you that Harvick would be afraid of him?
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Again, you're reaching. I never said that. I did say that Chase obviously gave no F's about Harv and CHASE wasn't afraid. Chase pulled the bitch move on the track by retaliating. Harv played the bitch the rest of the night.
 
OldTimer said:
Faster at the time of the incident when Chase lost air in his left front tire trying to make a third groove between a lapped car and Harvick on the bottom
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Harvicks the one who didnt control his car and got in to Elliott and Elliott was in the top groove when contact was made
 
Revman said:
Harvick did not get into him intentionally. Given that, what the hell message is Chase sending with all of this bull****? Don't race me hard? Don't get close to me? So, I guess my point is that Chase should care whether or not what Harvick did was intentionally because it is central to whatever message he is trying to send. I feel like Chase Nation grabs their crotches and readies for a battle that will never come....all to add to the legend. Oh my God, I have spent the week defending Harvick! What's next? A pandemic? Wait.
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The message is control your car and quit cutting my left front.
 
Spotter22 said:
Harvicks the one who didnt control his car and got in to Elliott and Elliott was in the top groove when contact was made
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Again, I disagree, it was up to Chase to know that Harvick had a fender on him and Chase was also culpable for trying to pinch Harvick coming off the corner. Watch the replay closely, there are two lines exit that allow for carried momentum, Chase was in between them...and a half car behind
 
I'm still trying to figure out who this Elliot guy is. Does he race for Hendricks Motorsports?
 
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