Edwards will not be suspended

In this whole arguement I think there is one big factor that no one seems to be addressing. Their is a BIG difference in playing a little "bumper tag" in the final laps going for the win versus purposely taking someone out when they are running sixth and you are running 100 plus laps down. Don't get me wrong, I realize that Kez is no saint by any means, but what happened earlier in the race was not his fault. Carl pretty much wrecked himself. Also what happened at Dega I don't feel was Kez or Carl's fault, it was a result of the double line rule.

Also, I think there is a big difference in the bump and run at somewhere like Bristol and Martinsville than somewhere as fast as Atlanta.

There are really alot of factors involved here, and they all spell out what Carl did was uncalled for. I don't care what Kez has done in the past.
 
Just got back in from a long weekedn in the mountains. Is this video out there? Didn't see it on nascar.com
 
Gordon_Fan24 said:
In this whole arguement I think there is one big factor that no one seems to be addressing. Their is a BIG difference in playing a little "bumper tag" in the final laps going for the win versus purposely taking someone out when they are running sixth and you are running 100 plus laps down. Don't get me wrong, I realize that Kez is no saint by any means, but what happened earlier in the race was not his fault. Carl pretty much wrecked himself. Also what happened at Dega I don't feel was Kez or Carl's fault, it was a result of the double line rule.

Also, I think there is a big difference in the bump and run at somewhere like Bristol and Martinsville than somewhere as fast as Atlanta.

There are really alot of factors involved here, and they all spell out what Carl did was uncalled for. I don't care what Kez has done in the past.
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Amen to this entire post. 100 laps down,no reason at all for that behavior.

Carl wrecked himself,watch the replays. Then 4 laps to go, Carl tried to punk Brad,but couldn't,so,next lap he finally did.Speeds are too fast at Atlanta for that,and people could have been hurt.
Expect a big hammer from NASCAR to fall on Carl.
 
be9ak7ts16 said:
C'mon Buckaroo,you should know by now that reason has no place in an argument like this. (BTW I fully agree with you.)
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That's what I've been saying for a long time. There is no reasoning here but NASCAR is going to make a decision and this after what Muggle said, they want to put emotion back into the racing. It gets even more contentious at the local level. :)
 
Kez took away a good finish from edwards at Tega. I see it as Kez put a bump on Edwauds early today ruining any chance of a good finish. Then just before the race ends Kez comes up running top 10 and Edwards goes, "Hmmmm, maybe spinning him out and ruining his day will teach him a lesson "

I have no doubt Edwards meant for his car to go airborne. Just meant to rattle his cage.
 
I wonder since Helton and company stated many times to drivers to "let loose and have fun" at the beginning of the season. I am pretty sure Helton was not intending for this to happen (nor Carl), but if NASCAR brings the hammer down, get use to what we have been seeing the last three years---boring, emotionless drivers.

Was anyone else surprised how low key Brad was in his interview? Then again he may have had so cobwebs still, but he seemed rather subdue. Kind of like he was expecting it or accepting it.

I have no clue how Helton will deal with this.
 
What Carl did was WRONG. But suspending him? Brad Keselowski has intentionally caused several wrecks, sometimes multiple wrecks per race, and NASCAR never did anything to him. Let's not forget Kez started it, not to justify what Carl did.

I didn't watch today's race, was at a party, but I've seen that one coming for a long time. I knew someone would put Brad in the wall. He can pull that crap in the Nationwide Series, but I knew the Cup boys weren't gonna put up with it.
 
Hey, y'all wanted rivaliries, well here ya go!

Let's see what happens when these "rivaliries" cost someone life.
 
It wouldn't surprise me to see NASCAR put Carl on probation for a number of races, but if there is more, I would be surprised.
 
I wonder if Carl is going to lose sponsership over his stunt, I think that'll have more bearing on him than whatever NASCAR does.
 
Nascar wont do anything there like the Keystone Cops. They screw with a guy like Carl Long and prevent him to race because he doesnt have a massive fan base. Now that Edwards is on trial there just going to give him a slap on the wrist.
 
AndyMarquisLive said:
What Carl did was WRONG. But suspending him? Brad Keselowski has intentionally caused several wrecks, sometimes multiple wrecks per race, and NASCAR never did anything to him. Let's not forget Kez started it, not to justify what Carl did.

I didn't watch today's race, was at a party, but I've seen that one coming for a long time. I knew someone would put Brad in the wall. He can pull that crap in the Nationwide Series, but I knew the Cup boys weren't gonna put up with it.
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From the way Keselowski's car went airborne and where it hit, he is lucky to be alive. What happened at Dega last year was a racing deal. Edwards tried to force Keselowski into a rookie mistake and Keselowski held his line. What happened today, there was very little contact between the #12 and #99. Edwards came down, Keselowski barely got into him, and Edwards got loose. It was a hell of a thing but far from intentional.

I am an Edwards fan, but I think he has to sit at least one race, especially since he was over 100 laps off the lead lap.
 
buckaroo said:
It wouldn't surprise me to see NASCAR put Carl on probation for a number of races, but if there is more, I would be surprised.
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I agree with this. If they do much more they are gonna have to be consistent with it the rest of the year, and as we ALL know, NASCAR has a little problem with that.
 
Spike said:
From the way Keselowski's car went airborne and where it hit, he is lucky to be alive. What happened at Dega last year was a racing deal. Edwards tried to force Keselowski into a rookie mistake and Keselowski held his line. What happened today, there was very little contact between the #12 and #99. Edwards came down, Keselowski barely got into him, and Edwards got loose. It was a hell of a thing but far from intentional.

I am an Edwards fan, but I think he has to sit at least one race, especially since he was over 100 laps off the lead lap.
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What Carl did definitely merits a suspension, for sure. I'm just saying it would be inconsistent on NASCAR's part to suspend him.
 
There isn't much they can do but probation. I mean come on, they all but promoted rivalries and fights.
 
SpeedPagan said:
I wonder if Carl is going to lose sponsership over his stunt, I think that'll have more bearing on him than whatever NASCAR does.
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Nah!

If anything AFLAC will try to sell Keslowski some additional insurance. :rolleyes:
 
NASCAR made their own bed here. Making some kind of example out of him would only make them look hypocritical.
 
PettyBlue said:
NASCAR made their own bed here. Making some kind of example out of him would only make them look hypocritical.
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Ditto. They promoted this. When what they should have done is promoted more 'racing'. Make the cars racier not the drivers. It is one thing to throw a helmet at who your mad at, it is another to use a car as a weapon of your anger. Nascar made the bed, now what position will they lie in it?
 
NASCAR will do nothing. A few years ago Kurt Busch dang near ran over one of Tony Stewarts crew members in anger. NASCAR did nothing to Kurt and that was before NASCAR told the drivers "put your heart into it boys".

Like I said, I can't wait until Wednesday to see how big brother deals with this one.
 
AndyMarquisLive said:
What Carl did definitely merits a suspension, for sure. I'm just saying it would be inconsistent on NASCAR's part to suspend him.
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Wait just a minute. Before NASCAR told the boys to have fun Kurt Busch came into the pits one angry person and dang near hit one of Stewarts pit crew.

Now that they have unleashed the dogs do you think for a minute they will suspend someone?
 
Smoke14 said:
Wait just a minute. Before NASCAR told the boys to have fun Kurt Busch came into the pits one angry person and dang near hit one of Stewarts pit crew.

Now that they have unleashed the dogs do you think for a minute they will suspend someone?
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Yes. The whole NASCAR thing about the gloves being off was only going to work as long as the sponsors tolerate their marketing image being tarnished by trash like Carl Edwards.
 
jmo: no suspension, but extended probation and a VERY LARGE fine.

won't suspend a top 3 car owner's driver. but it's gonna be expensive.
 
Just heard Kyle Petty rant about. He said something like "we'll see if Nascar's got a pair because they need to park him at Bristol."
I couldn't stop laughing.
:beerbang::beerbang::beerbang:
 
racer8 said:
Just heard Kyle Petty rant about. He said something like "we'll see if Nascar's got a pair because they need to park him at Bristol."
I couldn't stop laughing.
:beerbang::beerbang::beerbang:
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I agree with Kyle. Park him for bristol. They should park the whole team for bristol, but we all know sponsorships won't let that happen.
 
Hey, Nascar got what they wanted. Count the number of threads on this topic.
 
Kez didn't deserve that. Carl wrecked himself in dega, he wrecked himself today.

If you're gonna had somebody their @$$, do it with your fists, not your car.
 
When was the last time a driver was suspended for an on track incident?

It just simply isn't going to happen.
 
Jeez people get a grip you know dam good and well they are not going to suspend him. He will get a hefty fine and maybe some points and probabtion for the rest of the year, now if there was more laps he would'nt of been parked just brought into pits for a few laps for aggressive driving and summond to the nascar hauler after the race.
 
I think Carl was trying to send him a message not kill him. Probably the wrong place/time but he did get his point across. Thankfully noone was seriosly hurt. I was shocked that he did it especially being a new dad and all. His temper got the best of him and this has been waiting to happen for a while. Hopefully the 2 can shake hands and put it in the past. If not have a boxing match for charity.
 
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