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I am seriously beginning to think that NOBODY in American auto racing could market two dollar hookers at a Super Bowl venue. This should NOT be this hard. Everyone involved needs to park their egos and agendas and do the thing that will draw the MOST eyes to the sport. My God these people are dumb....
 
Formerjackman said:
I am seriously beginning to think that NOBODY in American auto racing could market two dollar hookers at a Super Bowl venue. This should NOT be this hard. Everyone involved needs to park their egos and agendas and do the thing that will draw the MOST eyes to the sport. My God these people are dumb....
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I could care less if Larson starts in 6th for the 500. It's a long race usually filled with calamity's. On the other hand Larson could have lapped the field at N. Wilkesboro last year. It could be a million dollar win. Seriously doubt there will be more eyes on the fast 6 than there will be for the All Star Race.
 
StandOnIt said:
I could care less if Larson starts in 6th for the 500. It's a long race usually filled with calamity's. On the other hand Larson could have lapped the field at N. Wilkesboro last year. It could be a million dollar win. Seriously doubt there will be more eyes on the fast 6 than there will be for the All Star Race.
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The goal should be for the most eyes possible on BOTH.
 
Formerjackman said:
I am seriously beginning to think that NOBODY in American auto racing could market two dollar hookers at a Super Bowl venue. This should NOT be this hard. Everyone involved needs to park their egos and agendas and do the thing that will draw the MOST eyes to the sport. My God these people are dumb....
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In that respect, why does NASCAR try to run the 600 on the same day as the 500 anyway?
 
Revman said:
In that respect, why does NASCAR try to run the 600 on the same day as the 500 anyway?
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Along the vein of co-operation, Nascar moved it's time fairly recently so attempts to run both races could be possible. Bill France started out competing with the 500 and the times overlapped so I don't know what the problem is here?

I understand the whole Indy race is vital for their survival and they promote it for a month at least, but Larson can't be expected to show up for some qualifying contest and miss a Nascar race. There is no possible way time wise to do so. I wish there was, it would be something to watch. Indycar should have make that happen with their scheduling.
 
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4th? Whatever. It looks like he is tied for 3rd to me and all 4 drivers have only 3 points of separation back to Bell.
 
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Formerjackman said:
Right now the 9 Team is leading the league in consistent mediocrity. I can't recall a time where 4th in points feels like 14th.
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Agreed, and in the promo for Prime, Chase is featured in anticipation of the road course in Mexico.....Is he really even a thing on road courses anymore?
 
Revman said:
Agreed, and in the promo for Prime, Chase is featured in anticipation of the road course in Mexico.....Is he really even a thing on road courses anymore?
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He had the best car at COTA if he hadn't spent all day recovering from being Chastained.
 
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Revman said:
Agreed, and in the promo for Prime, Chase is featured in anticipation of the road course in Mexico.....Is he really even a thing on road courses anymore?
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I think he is, but I do think the new car cut into his advantage a little bit, plus you have guys like SVG and Zillich that are going to cut into his opportunities, and the rest of the field continues to up their game. Look how great Bubba ran at COTA. Every time you think you have figured out who can contend, another name seems to pop up out of nowhere. There are also now so many different tracks that it's hard to excel at all of them. In my opinion, Chase's wheelhouse is The Glen, the Roval and COTA. Chicago and Sonoma, not so much. What sucks is that even on the days the car is really fast, something stupid ALWAYS seems to derail the effort, from getting punted from four rows back, to signs falling onto the track to ill timed cautions, it's ALWAYS something. 🤬
 
Revman said:
Agreed, and in the promo for Prime, Chase is featured in anticipation of the road course in Mexico.....Is he really even a thing on road courses anymore?
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If you looked at the numbers you'd be surprised. He could very easily have 4 or so RC wins in this car, things just haven't fallen his way.
 
Formerjackman said:
Right now the 9 Team is leading the league in consistent mediocrity. I can't recall a time where 4th in points feels like 14th.
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I guess the only thing I'm hanging my hat on is they're showing the ability to stay afloat when things aren't going exactly how they want. You gotta be able to do that. IF they can get the speed figured out it will make them a very well rounded team come late in the season.
 
Formerjackman said:
I think he is, but I do think the new car cut into his advantage a little bit, plus you have guys like SVG and Zillich that are going to cut into his opportunities, and the rest of the field continues to up their game. Look how great Bubba ran at COTA. Every time you think you have figured out who can contend, another name seems to pop up out of nowhere. There are also now so many different tracks that it's hard to excel at all of them. In my opinion, Chase's wheelhouse is The Glen, the Roval and COTA. Chicago and Sonoma, not so much. What sucks is that even on the days the car is really fast, something stupid ALWAYS seems to derail the effort, from getting punted from four rows back, to signs falling onto the track to ill timed cautions, it's ALWAYS something. 🤬
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AdoubleU24 said:
If you looked at the numbers you'd be surprised. He could very easily have 4 or so RC wins in this car, things just haven't fallen his way.
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Great points, but Chase isn't the guy anymore. Larson is. Chase used to be so dominant on road courses that all of the stupid stuff didn't matter.
 
Nobody is ignoring the road courses anymore. Pretty sure most drivers are training on road courses at tracks and in simulators. The gaps are closing. SVG is another example. Besides dirt about all of his experience was at road courses. He comes over here and yeah he is competitive, but he isn't a standout. I believe Nascar has some of the best road course drivers in the world and courses to race on. Shorter COTA was a big hit.
 
Revman said:
Great points, but Chase isn't the guy anymore. Larson is. Chase used to be so dominant on road courses that all of the stupid stuff didn't matter.
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I think the point we are trying to make is I don't think ANYONE is going to be able to dominate the road courses (or anywhere else for that matter) the way others, like Gordon or Martin or even Chase was able to. Much like our championship format, I feel like every week you would have as good of a shot picking winners by throwing darts as anything else. I think that 75% of the time Chase is going to be in the conversation at the road courses, but that isn't near as likely to translate into wins the way it USED to. The car evened the playing field, and the competition is a step closer than they were. Guys like Richard Petty and Bobby Allison used to dominate at Riverside, and then guys like Richmond, Labonte, Rudd and Wallace came along, and the old guard NEVER won again. Did those guys forget how to drive? No, but the competition keeps getting better.
 
Zilisch is another example. Road course background, fast as hell, but again no domination at the cup level but like the others he could snatch a win if it all falls into place. The new guys showing up have all got game at the top level.
 
Formerjackman said:
I think the point we are trying to make is I don't think ANYONE is going to be able to dominate the road courses (or anywhere else for that matter) the way others, like Gordon or Martin or even Chase was able to. Much like our championship format, I feel like every week you would have as good of a shot picking winners by throwing darts as anything else. I think that 75% of the time Chase is going to be in the conversation at the road courses, but that isn't near as likely to translate into wins the way it USED to. The car evened the playing field, and the competition is a step closer than they were. Guys like Richard Petty and Bobby Allison used to dominate at Riverside, and then guys like Richmond, Labonte, Rudd and Wallace came along, and the old guard NEVER won again. Did those guys forget how to drive? No, but the competition keeps getting better.
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Kyle Larson is dominant. Period. He is the guy to beat every damn week.
 
Revman said:
Kyle Larson is dominant. Period. He is the guy to beat every damn week.
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He is dominant a lot, but just like last Sunday, it often doesn't translate into a win. Your pal Jeffy, winning forty races in four years, THAT was domination.
 
Formerjackman said:
Right now the 9 Team is leading the league in consistent mediocrity. I can't recall a time where 4th in points feels like 14th.
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It is weird. It’s the most hopeless I’ve felt as a fan since Bill’s 94 days or Jeff Burton’s sponsorless days at Roush but he’s top 4 in points. Yet it means next to nothing with a playoff system…
 
I firmly believe Chase’s advantage at road courses in Gen 6 car was braking. This also translated to Martinsville as well. His technique combined with something HMs had in their braking systems allowed him to eat people alive in heavy braking zones. When you were in the stands at the Roval you could really see it watching the backstretch chicane. You could see it with your bare eyes. Watkins Glen as well. The next gen car killed that by giving everyone giant brakes and wide tires. Just my .02
 
Dr_B_UNC said:
I firmly believe Chase’s advantage at road courses in Gen 6 car was braking. This also translated to Martinsville as well. His technique combined with something HMs had in their braking systems allowed him to eat people alive in heavy braking zones. When you were in the stands at the Roval you could really see it watching the backstretch chicane. You could see it with your bare eyes. Watkins Glen as well. The next gen car killed that by giving everyone giant brakes and wide tires. Just my .02
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Well said. It’s why I’m shocked they aren’t running more HP at road courses and short tracks
 
Formerjackman said:
He is dominant a lot, but just like last Sunday, it often doesn't translate into a win. Your pal Jeffy, winning forty races in four years, THAT was domination.
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D-o-m-i-n-a-n-t. Have a great night.
 
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