Hey Chevrolet, Why the SS and not the Impala?

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Maybe there's an answer for this, but I was still wondering...why did Chevy decide to race the 2014 SS in 2013 instead of the 2014 Impala? It doesn't seem to make much sense for Chevrolet to use NASCAR to promote a car that won't even be out until the season's almost over, will only be made in limited numbers, and will probably be cost prohibitive for 95% of NASCAR fans (the SS is rumored to sticker north of $45K when it's introduced). I've seen some pics of the '14 Impala and I think it woulda made a pretty cool looking race car. It's also more of a direct competitor to the Camry and Fusion than the SS will be. I dunno, was just wondering....
 
Yeah, the entire move to use the SS doesn't make much sense to me. The model will be short lived... what will Team Chevy move to once the SS is gone? Maybe back to the Impala then?
 
I think they had to make something like a thousand cars for it to be legal to race. The earliest car that I know that manufacturers made specifically just for Nascar racing was a 57 chevy they called the black widow. There might have been cars earlier than that, I don't know for sure. They made just a few. Came without a back seat, ran 2- 4 barrels, had beefed up suspension, no heater etc. Pure race car. Here is some info for the history buffs.


http://www.57chevyblackwidow.com/gm.html
 
The 2014 Chevrolet Impala is aimed to compete with the Avalon and Taurus and not the Camry or Fusion. The 2014 Impala was too big to fit the common template that NASCAR and the manufacturers agreed upon for the Generation 6 car. While they look more stock and what you'd find on the showroom, they're still a common template car. I'm glad Chevrolet took the opportunity to bring something new and exciting to the street and to the track. Nothing says NASCAR like a V-8 powered, rear wheel drive manual transmission car, and the Chevrolet SS is the only one that can deliver it. Also the base price for the SS is below $30K.
 
did you guys see the SS car, they unveiled the actual car and I was like seriously?? that, to me it looked like one of the more boring new cars out there. The car does have some exciting performance options like rear drive and a v8 but if you are really concerned about having that I think one would buy a camaro or mustang. I think all the US car makers are struggeling to find a strategy that works when it comes to run of the mill 4 door sedan mainstay car sales. and ford with the fusion is no exception. if I was in the market for a midsize 4 door I would look at honda or yota. if I wanted to save on my initial investment I would probably look at the korean cars. and domestics last. why the sentiment I think US car companies are finally suffering from producing terrible cars in the 80' s and 90's.
 
I'm glad they went with SS over Impala. To me, Impala brand just brings up images of lowriders or grandma.
 
hidesert cowboy said:
did you guys see the SS car, they unveiled the actual car and I was like seriously?? that, to me it looked like one of the more boring new cars out there. The car does have some exciting performance options like rear drive and a v8 but if you are really concerned about having that I think one would buy a camaro or mustang. I think all the US car makers are struggeling to find a strategy that works when it comes to run of the mill 4 door sedan mainstay car sales. and ford with the fusion is no exception. if I was in the market for a midsize 4 door I would look at honda or yota. if I wanted to save on my initial investment I would probably look at the korean cars. and domestics last. why the sentiment I think US car companies are finally suffering from producing terrible cars in the 80' s and 90's.
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Its your opinion but in my opinion your opinion sucks, unless I'm mistaken those two brands dont exist on any nascar track, and the SS is one badass lookin car.
 
most of you young whipers grew up driving a Jap ***t box because they were cheap and now you have a tie to imports. My second car in high school was a 62 impala SS convertible with a 327 4bbl V8. It wasn't no grandma car or a low rider, and I didn't need a fart can on the back to make noise while I wasn't going anywhere anyway. The back seat was large enough for dates also. When I think grandma..I think grey toyota.
 
ok I am sorry you don't like my opinion. the SS is a very bland looking car. I don't think sales will be very good for it and I will go on record right now and say its not going to be a big hit in the car market. My first car was a 74 corvette that I saved the money for when I was 15 yrs old. at the time late 80's early 90's I bought and sold insurance totals. during this time period jap cars and trucks were light years more reliable and better built. I am simply stating that because of this the US car makers chickens have come home to roost. it doesn't matter if these other makes race in nascar. They are still out there and the US makers must compete against them.
 
[quote="Thegroundpounder99, post: 597155, member: [ Nothing says NASCAR like a V-8 powered, rear wheel drive manual transmission car, and the Chevrolet SS is the only one that can deliver it. Also the base price for the SS is below $30K.[/quote]
THATS WHY LOL,lets run NASCAR with front wheel drive.............................,
 
hidesert cowboy said:
I am simply stating that because of this the US car makers chickens have come home to roost. it doesn't matter if these other makes race in nascar. They are still out there and the US makers must compete against them.
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It's interesting to me that Chevy chose to use an Australian-built vehicle for their model choice. But I really don't care what the model name is on a NASCAR CUP Car. If there is any resemblance at all to a street car, it is superficial at best. Chevy fans made a big deal about the switch from the Monte Carlo to the Impala as well. In truth, it really doesn't mean a thing to anyone but the marketers and some die-hard, brand-loyal fans.

The N'wide series cars are similar. Even though I really like the front ends on the Mustang and the Camaro, the cars are all still common-template cars - even the Camry.
 
hidesert cowboy said:
ok I am sorry you don't like my opinion. the SS is a very bland looking car. I don't think sales will be very good for it and I will go on record right now and say its not going to be a big hit in the car market. My first car was a 74 corvette that I saved the money for when I was 15 yrs old. at the time late 80's early 90's I bought and sold insurance totals. during this time period jap cars and trucks were light years more reliable and better built. I am simply stating that because of this the US car makers chickens have come home to roost. it doesn't matter if these other makes race in nascar. They are still out there and the US makers must compete against them.
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pure B.S. you couldn't afford the insurance for a vette. I had a 73 when I was 24 and a really good job. The insurance cost me more than the car did. car was 4800, insurance for 4 years 5400. You are about ten year shy (you weren't even born yet) when american cars were caught with their pants down. It was called the energy crisis back in the mid seventies. U.S. cars were big and high powered..not fuel efficient. Jap cars were small and cheap. My wife was on a waiting list to get one. Got a little bity 76 honda 4 banger auto. They had the little cars at the right time is all. Their little island without any oil and machinery WE had given them after the war, flooded the U.S. market. By the time you are speaking of U.S. cars were as good or better then the imports, but they had lost the market.
 
robbybee said:
It's interesting to me that Chevy chose to use an Australian-built vehicle for their model choice.
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What will your argument be next year when the SS is built in the US? As only the first 2500 built in year one will be made in Australia. And what do you have against Australia anyway???:D
 
Thegroundpounder99 said:
The 2014 Chevrolet Impala is aimed to compete with the Avalon and Taurus and not the Camry or Fusion. The 2014 Impala was too big to fit the common template that NASCAR and the manufacturers agreed upon for the Generation 6 car. While they look more stock and what you'd find on the showroom, they're still a common template car. I'm glad Chevrolet took the opportunity to bring something new and exciting to the street and to the track. Nothing says NASCAR like a V-8 powered, rear wheel drive manual transmission car, and the Chevrolet SS is the only one that can deliver it. Also the base price for the SS is below $30K.
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The Malibu, then? I still don't understand running the SS. Kinda goes against the "win on Sunday, sell on Monday" adage when you don't have any SS's to sell on Monday.

And I'm not sure what your source was on the sub-$30k base price for the SS, but all the sources I've seen, including the most recent issue of Car and Driver, say that the SS will come only in fully loaded trim and will sticker in the $40K's. Unlike the G8 (which is essentially what this car is), there will be no base model V6 version.
 
ToyYoda said:
The Malibu, then? I still don't understand running the SS. Kinda goes against the "win on Sunday, sell on Monday" adage when you don't have any SS's to sell on Monday.

And I'm not sure what your source was on the sub-$30k base price for the SS, but all the sources I've seen, including the most recent issue of Car and Driver, say that the SS will come only in fully loaded trim and will sticker in the $40K's. Unlike the G8 (which is essentially what this car is), there will be no base model V6 version.
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You haven't heard?:eek: The "What wins on Sunday, sells on Monday" has been replaced by "What wins on Sunday will be available in August":D

There have been several sources to report that the base price is below $30K, and you are correct, no V-6 option.

http://m.carbuzz.com/Article.aspx?Id=13185
 
The SS is REAR wheel drive. Not front like the Impala, and all the rest since mopar bowed out of nascar. It is going to have a lot of horsepower in street trim, kinda like the old Ford 4 door SHO, more recently, closely related to the Chrysler 300 or Dodge Charger, 4 dr. rear wheel drive. If you haven't driven a rear wheel drive car, they drive so much better than a front wheel drive, better balance and a lot less steering input for the good points, trans tunnel, and less traction on slick streets are the big negatives. I've had a couple of front wheelers, cut my teeth on rear wheel. I prefer rear wheel drive myself.
 
Nothing wrong with a car built in Australia. They build some fine vehicles.

The SS may look a little bland compared to its older cousin, the Pontiac G8. I have one and it's a hear-turner.

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This is no different than back in the day when the Superbirds and Galaxies were in short runs just to get them into NASCAR.
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I think you are right. NASCAR gave the car builders manufacturer identity and the teams (w/mfg help) will maximize the possibility of an advantage.
 
The birds were for sure. Ford was the Torino Talladega, flush front grill, rear window flush also.
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Thegroundpounder99 said:
What will your argument be next year when the SS is built in the US? As only the first 2500 built in year one will be made in Australia.
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Hey, I don't really care where the street cars are built. But I do like the argument that was prevelant for the last few years when people were saying that a Japanese car in NASCAR was Un-American. Fact is that the Camry was/is the ONE AND ONLY American-built car in the series. Although in truth, SOME of the FORD Fusions are now being built in the US in addition to Mexico, from where the majority of the Fusions still originate.

Thegroundpounder99 said:
And what do you have against Australia anyway???:D
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NOTHING! Honest!! I have visited Australia and I love that place - except for the fact that 9 0ut of 10 of the World's most deadly poisonous snakes are from Australia.

http://arachnophiliac.info/burrow/tenmostvenomous.htm

But I have eaten kangaroo, emu, crocodile and Australian beef and It Was Good!

:cheers: And down-under beer is WAY better too!!!
 
robbybee said:
Hey, I don't really care where the street cars are built. But I do like the argument that was prevelant for the last few years when people were saying that a Japanese car in NASCAR was Un-American. Fact is that the Camry was/is the ONE AND ONLY American-built car in the series. Although in truth, SOME of the FORD Fusions are now being built in the US in addition to Mexico, from where the majority of the Fusions still originate.



NOTHING! Honest!! I have visited Australia and I love that place - except for the fact that 9 0ut of 10 of the World's most deadly poisonous snakes are from Australia.

http://arachnophiliac.info/burrow/tenmostvenomous.htm

But I have eaten kangaroo, emu, crocodile and Australian beef and It Was Good!

:cheers: And down-under beer is WAY better too!!!
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Oh please..don't start that made in the USA crap. They are ASSEMBLED in the USA. Doesn't matter anyway..the profits end up in Japan. Just like showing a toyota Truck pulling the shuttle(down hill BTW) with a Born in the USA sign on the front. propaganda. Money ends up with mitsubitsi or topo ge go or whatever.
 
robbybee said:
Hey, I don't really care where the street cars are built. But I do like the argument that was prevelant for the last few years when people were saying that a Japanese car in NASCAR was Un-American. Fact is that the Camry was/is the ONE AND ONLY American-built car in the series. Although in truth, SOME of the FORD Fusions are now being built in the US in addition to Mexico, from where the majority of the Fusions still originate.

While I do not agree with what you have to say my good sir, I will defend to the death your right to say it:p


NOTHING! Honest!! I have visited Australia and I love that place - except for the fact that 9 0ut of 10 of the World's most deadly poisonous snakes are from Australia.

http://arachnophiliac.info/burrow/tenmostvenomous.htm

But I have eaten kangaroo, emu, crocodile and Australian beef and It Was Good!

:cheers: And down-under beer is WAY better too!!!
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:CHEERS MATE:cool:
 
robbybee said:
...and also in the pockets of American workers who assemble them... ;)
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This exactly for everyone who talks about how the profits go back to Japan, American WORKERS get paid. If the cars are made somewhere else then the people in mexico are getting paid, only people in America getting paid then are the suits who run the companies. I rather buy a buy a cart built, assembled whatever in America so the American WORKERS get paid then some suit get paid.


Anyway on the topic, I like the SS it looks pretty cool if you ask me.
 
ToyYoda said:
The Malibu, then? I still don't understand running the SS. Kinda goes against the "win on Sunday, sell on Monday" adage when you don't have any SS's to sell on Monday.

And I'm not sure what your source was on the sub-$30k base price for the SS, but all the sources I've seen, including the most recent issue of Car and Driver, say that the SS will come only in fully loaded trim and will sticker in the $40K's. Unlike the G8 (which is essentially what this car is), there will be no base model V6 version.
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I have a serious question, since your allegiance is out there for all to see in your avatar, why do you give a sh!t about the SS? Sounds like a troll to me. Just sayin.
 
I think the SS will be great. I look forward to seeing them on the road. Hell, I might even buy one once the used ones start to become available.
 
Johali said:
I have a serious question, since your allegiance is out there for all to see in your avatar, why do you give a sh!t about the SS? Sounds like a troll to me. Just sayin.
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Johali said:
I have a serious question, since your allegiance is out there for all to see in your avatar, why do you give a sh!t about the SS? Sounds like a troll to me. Just sayin.
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It is so easy though Johali, it is like shooting ducks in a barrel. Here is where your car payment money is going. These guys are happy for ya.

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StandOnIt said:
It is so easy though Johali, it is like shooting ducks in a barrel. Here is where your car payment money is going. These guys are happy for ya.

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You have me confused with someone else, and you remind me of a previous member (troll) that didnt read the posts through and through either. Read my posts a little slower and carefully, my car money doesnt go to japan, never has and never will. My wife wants an SS next year after they have a chance to work the bugs out.
 
you are not reading mine apparently, both of your quotes were above the pic I posted. I was agreeing with you. That was for toy yoda the little troll that isn't
 
StandOnIt said:
you are not reading mine apparently, both of your quotes were above the pic I posted. I was agreeing with you. That was for toy yoda the little troll that isn't
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If thats true then gomen nasai Standonit-san.
 
I would be more worried about toyYoda's, than Chevy's decision to run the SS in cup. Just sayin.
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