Hybrid NASCAR by 2024

[DewChaser988]

Don’t see why a lot of dirt racing needs to electrify, they aren’t anything close to street legal or branded to be “stock” cars anyway.

Because they still need engines to run, and inevitably once ICEs stop being manufactured, they'll have nothing to power their cars but electric motors

 

[racingfan7]

Because they still need engines to run, and inevitably once ICEs stop being manufactured, they'll have nothing to power their cars but electric motors

And when is that going to happen? I’m not a mechanic expert just a tech expert more so.

 

[28car]

Well we knew this was coming, the truth is our sport will die at a major league level if it doesn't electrify.

My question is what will GM race without a Camaro?

They can't race a Corvette, as translating a mid engined design to a front engine car would look just goofy.

They can run the Corvette
Change the Comaro headlight stickers to Corvette stickers and there you go a Corvette running in NASCAR

 

[Charlie Spencer]

inevitably once ICEs stop being manufactured

I don't see that as inevitable. You won't find ICEs in consumer vehicles, but I don't see them going away completely. There will still be applications where they're appropriate.

 

[ChexOrWrex]

inevitably once ICEs stop being manufactured

That is a long LONG ways away.

While manufacturers like Ford are putting their electric F-150 in the forefront, they are more than happy to still be building new Broncos and have announced an off-road Expedition. Until technology and infrastructure improve, ICEs are still the cheaper and more reliable source of power.

 

[ToyYoda]

They can run the Corvette
Change the Comaro headlight stickers to Corvette stickers and there you go a Corvette running in NASCAR

I mean, the current Cup Camaro is really just the old SS body with a different nose and part of the quarter windows corked up, so why not?

 

[ChexOrWrex]

I mean, the current Cup Camaro is really just the old SS body with a different nose and part of the quarter windows corked up, so why not?

The bondo was the most significant change from the SS to the Camaro.

 

[Charlie Spencer]

The bondo was the most significant change from the SS to the Camaro.

On the track, in the showroom, or both?

 

[2 Sweet]

The sides and quarter panels are completely different between the SS sedan and Camaro.....

 

[2 Sweet]

They can run the Corvette
Change the Comaro headlight stickers to Corvette stickers and there you go a Corvette running in NASCAR

That hasn't been true since the COT went away 10 years ago

 

[cheesepuffs]

Maybe something like the Toyota Camry XSE Hybrid? Remember the snark about Toyota's lack of a pushrod on entry to the series? Yes, I am laughing now.

You're laughing at the idea that Ford and GM don't have a hybrid to run for a rules package that doesn't even exist yet? Meanwhile, when Toyota entered the sport they actually didn't have a pushrod production engine in real time as they were entering the series. Not the same scenario

 

[cheesepuffs]

Because they still need engines to run, and inevitably once ICEs stop being manufactured, they'll have nothing to power their cars but electric motors

The engines they run have no dependence on production lines from the OEMs

 

[Charlie Spencer]

The CARS they run have no dependence on production lines from the OEMs

 

[ChexOrWrex]

You're laughing at the idea that Ford and GM don't have a hybrid to run for a rules package that doesn't even exist yet? Meanwhile, when Toyota entered the sport they actually didn't have a pushrod production engine in real time as they were entering the series. Not the same scenario

Maybe he forgets about GM’s EV-1, the first ever mass produced electric vehicle from a major automaker.

The technology isn’t new and it’s not proprietary to Toyota.

 

[racingfan7]

Yeah let’s Gen4 these cars and just make them fast, fun to race, and entertaining at the same time.

 

[donthaveanickname]

I don't think any popular racing series will ever go all-electric. Electric racing is never going to attract the number of fans "conventional" racing does.

 

[HoneyBadger]

Well...it's here.

The rapid electrification of race cars and consumer cars has me worried about something no one's talking about. What do short tracks do across the country when there'll be no more 90s sedans to purchase and turn into an entry series car? No more street stocks or compacts? Do they go entirely to kit cars? Even with kit cars how long will manufacturers continue to produce highly specialized ICE engines for racing when they're going to be one of the few purchasers of ICE left.

These questions don't have to be answered tomorrow, but by 2030 we better have a road map in place because by 2040 the world of short track racing is going to have to go through a lot of major change.

Once people start buying electric cars, other people will probably start buying up newer sedans to convert into racecars.

Electric racing is coming and people should make peace with it now.

 

[HoneyBadger]

Horse racing is still around.

The "death of short track racing" crowd is so hyperbolic. If anything, electric cars becoming mainstream will make racing MORE affordable as the combustion engine becomes archaic. And eventually people will be putting Hybrid cars in Any Car races and I'm here for it.

 

[kkfan91]

Horse racing is still around.

The "death of short track racing" crowd is so hyperbolic. If anything, electric cars becoming mainstream will make racing MORE affordable as the combustion engine becomes archaic. And eventually people will be putting Hybrid cars in Any Car races and I'm here for it.

And quieter racecars would hopefully keep the noise complainers down

 

[Charlie Spencer]

And quieter racecars would hopefully keep the noise complainers down

Solves the Nashville problem quite nicely, doesn't it?

 

[kkfan91]

Solves the Nashville problem quite nicely, doesn't it?

I mean Karen's will never be happy but it takes one thing out of their argument

 

[racingfan7]

Don’t see what the big deal is at putting sound barriers at the Fairgrounds AND/OR making them quit racing after 10-11 PM.

I mean Richmond is well in town, no?

 

[Conover]

Seriously, call me old, but the day a throaty loud roar of a muscled high HP engine is gone from stock car racing is the day I retire as a fan. I really believe what they will introduce is truly a hybrid design, with the electric motor providing power during low speed cautions and pit road activity, while the V8 kicks in during racing. That certainly would fit the description Phelps provided. He’s not stupid; they need to appeal to the fans while connecting to the trends of the day.

 

[aunty dive]

What do current Cup car exhaust emission numbers look like?

 

[StandOnIt]

Don’t see what the big deal is at putting sound barriers at the Fairgrounds AND/OR making them quit racing after 10-11 PM.

I mean Richmond is well in town, no?

I don't see the big deal, but I am not paying for it either.

 

[Hotrod]

And quieter racecars would hopefully keep the noise complainers down

I dont know, I left following Formula E because that engine-drivetrain whine drove me crazy.
Time has come though. I am sure they are already have the Gen8 half drawn up already.

 

[StandOnIt]

Electric won't be the only form of motivation. Hydrogen is very green and it has the possibility of making some noise instead of a high pitched whine.

 

[ChexOrWrex]

Hydrogen is very green

This is a lie. Hydrogen cells wear down very fast and are difficult to replenish, so they are discarded. Furthermore, in the larger picture, mass quantities of hydrogen is simply hard to make, harder to store, and sourcing mass quantities is actually dirtier than other fuels.

Electric is the future that is the most sustainable and affordable.

 

[StandOnIt]

This is a lie. Hydrogen cells wear down very fast and are difficult to replenish, so they are discarded. Furthermore, in the larger picture, mass quantities of hydrogen is simply hard to make, harder to store, and sourcing mass quantities is actually dirtier than other fuels.

Electric is the future that is the most sustainable and affordable.

SMH

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[Charlie Spencer]

This is a lie.

Ya know, it's possible for someone to make an inaccurate or incorrect remark innocently, with no intent to deceive.

 

[Magicmiler]

 

[ChexOrWrex]

Ya know, it's possible for someone to make an inaccurate or incorrect remark innocently, with no intent to deceive.

I didnt say he lied. I said “this is a lie” that hydrogen being very green is a lie. Ya know.

 

[racingfan7]

I don't see the big deal, but I am not paying for it either.

I actually really liked Nashville SS with the 750 package so who knows

 

[HoneyBadger]

The safest and cleanest form of energy is nuclear, not "green" energy.

 

[StandOnIt]

I didnt say he lied. I said “this is a lie” that hydrogen being very green is a lie. Ya know.

I said Hydrogen is very green...You said that was a lie effective calling me a lair. Own it or not I could give a $hit

 

[DewChaser988]

The safest and cleanest form of energy is nuclear, not "green" energy.

Problem is we don't want a Cup car turning into a mini-nuke whenever it crashes

 

[HoneyBadger]

Problem is we don't want a Cup car turning into a mini-nuke whenever it crashes

Nuclear energy gives you the power to charge the electric vehicles.

Electric isn't the savior everyone thinks it is right now.

 

[HoneyBadger]

I can't wait to see what happens to the power grid when people begin plugging in and charging electric vehicles.

 

[Charlie Spencer]

I didnt say he lied. I said “this is a lie” that hydrogen being very green is a lie. Ya know.

No, I don't know. I don't understand how a statement can be a lie without the person making it being a liar.

 

[ChexOrWrex]

The safest and cleanest form of energy is nuclear, not "green" energy.

The most correct thing in this thread.

I said Hydrogen is very green...You said that was a lie effective calling me a lair. Own it or not I could give a $hit

lolwat. The idea that hydrogen power as a mass fuel source is a lie, myth, etc… it’s not anyone’s fault that you believe it.