IndyCar: Firestone 600

AndyMarquisLive said:
I'm so glad Texas Motor Speedway has a big ass TV screen when they could've invested that money in drainage.
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Yeah they should have just built a vented dome instead. But that still wouldn't have prevented those pesky ground water weepers. Or i suppose they could just raise the whole track about 100'?
 
DUN24 said:
There was rain earlier and they were dealing with weepers again. They probably should have just scrapped Sunday all together, but they would have caught grief about that too.
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Rained again today, too.

Fwiw, this was what the June schedule looked like for teams prior to the Texas race. Would've been awfully difficult to pull it off.

June
1: Reintroduce yourself to your family
2: Drive to Detroit
3: Detroit practice and qualifying
4: First Dual in Detroit race (ends at 6 p.m., crews go home between 8-9 p.m.)
5: Qualifying at 10:30 a.m.; second Dual race at 3:30 p.m.; load up, drive home and arrive by midnight if they run 90mph
6: Back in shop by 10 a.m. to turn cars around for Texas oval (trucks leave Tuesday afternoon)
10: Practice and qualify at Texas
11: Texas race at night (many Indy mechanics fly home on a charter plane and are back in Indy by 3 a.m.; others fly home Sunday morning)
13: Prep car for Road America test
14: Make the six-hour drive to Road America
15: Tire test at Road America for one car from each team
19: Drive to Watkins Glen for tire test
20: Tire test at Watkins Glen for one car from each team
23: Drive to Road America
24-25: Practice and qualify for Road America
26: Road America race at 12:30 p.m.; mechanics load up and then drive to Des Moines, Iowa, for open test
29: Open test at Iowa Speedway for all teams. Then they make seven-hour drive home and arrive between 2 and 4 a.m.
30: Possible day off
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http://www.racer.com/more/viewpoints/item/130490-miller-if-it-s-friday-this-must-be-texas
 
DUN24 said:
When they race at Road America, it'll be the first time since the split, that there are two Indycar races happening simultaneously. :D
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I think there is a joke in there, but I don't get it. But Indycar did run Motegi and Long Beach at the same time in 2008, IIRC.
 
I'm not usually a fan of Eddie Gossage and TMS but I have to give credit for what they're doing to make the most of this situation: http://www.texasmotorspeedway.com/n...-indycar-race-that-returns-saturday-august-27

  • Speedway Offering Special Perks Including Driver Autograph Session, $1 Hot Dogs And Coca-Cola Products, Free Vintage Indy-Car T-Shirts And Race Programs
  • Event Will Be All General Admission Frontstretch Seating At Reduced Price Of $28 Or Free With Ticket From Original June 11 Race
  • Fans Purchasing Ticket For November's AAA Texas 500 NASCAR Sprint Cup Series Race Between Today And August 27 Receive Free Firestone 600 Ticket
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FLRacingFan said:
I'm not usually a fan of Eddie Gossage
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Doesn't Eddie put more butts in seats than any Nascar race except the Bristol Night Race? Or at least very close to that. What is not to like about that? Plus, he provided this...

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Let's try this again:

INDYCAR FIRESTONE 600 – SATURDAY AT 9 P.M. ET ON NBCSN

NBC Sports Group continues its exclusive cable coverage of the 2016 Verizon IndyCar Series this Saturday at 9:30 p.m. ET with live coverage of the Firestone 600 from Texas Motor Speedway. This race was rescheduled after torrential rain halted the race on Sunday, June 12, after just 71 of a scheduled 248 laps were completed. Saturday night’s race will resume on Lap 72, with James Hinchcliffe (Schmidt Peterson Motorsports), who held the lead at the time the race was halted, at the front of the pack.

Will Power (Penske) won the ABC Supply 500 at Pocono on Monday to move within 20 points of teammate Simon Pagenaud who continues to lead the championship standings. Power has finished in first or second place for the last six consecutive races, which includes four victories.

Coverage begins on NBCSN on Saturday night at 9 p.m. ET with pre-race coverage, followed by green flag action at 9:30 p.m. ET.

Kevin Lee (play-by-play) will call the action alongside analysts and drivers Paul Tracy and Townsend Bell. Reporters Jon Beekhuis, Katie Hargitt and Robin Miller will report from the pits.
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http://motorsports.nbcsports.com/20...firestone-600-at-texas-take-2-times-on-nbcsn/
 
It is absolutely ridiculous that we're restarting a race yet the teams are not required to bring the same cars they were using in June untouched. So it's a new race yet we're starting from lap 113. Typical stupid indycar.
 
DaBiff1618 said:
It is absolutely ridiculous that we're restarting a race yet the teams are not required to bring the same cars they were using in June untouched. So it's a new race yet we're starting from lap 113. Typical stupid indycar.
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Not many chassis lying around, so of course they were released to the teams with five races in between. They were impounded beforehand and the series recorded the trim packages for each car before releasing them. The only pre-race adjustments allowed were changing the gear stack and adjusting the front wing.
 
TK has been so impressive as of late, he's just so passionate and you can tell he still has so much hunger still.

You have to love TK, what a legend.
 
Surprised they didn't put Hinch on new tires towards the end with like five cars on the lead lap. I guess they figured they wouldn't move the lapped cars behind the leaders.
 
That was ****** awesome. Feel for Hinche. Stoked for Rahal though! Dude does some amazing things in race cars.


Amazing race. Old school Texas. I didn't breathe during the last 10 laps.
 
FLRacingFan said:
Surprised they didn't put Hinch on new tires towards the end with like five cars on the lead lap. I guess they figured they wouldn't move the lapped cars behind the leaders.
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You think they don't know the rules? It's possible, but how boneheaded would that be? Rahal said he didn't know the rules, but surely his engineer (or whoever is calling the race from his pit) should know the rules.

IMO, not stopping for tires was a bonehead move. The only thing more boneheaded would be not stopping *because* you didn't know the rules.
 
donthaveanickname said:
Awesome, just awesome!
These guys really are the best racecar drivers in the world.
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I like your comments, and I appreciate the perspective of a young fan who follows closely and knows what he is talking about!

Obviously many in this thread disagree with me, but my opinion is that this Texas race was not great racing. The closeness is exciting, but the closeness of it merely creates *the illusion* of good racing, while the drivers sit lap after lap with their right foot pressed to the floorboard. It is like Nascar at Talladega, aero dominated racing that has nothing to do with conventional auto racing skills like car control, throttle control, braking, handling. Surviving pack racing requires some skills, and I'm not saying any joker off the street could do it, but the skills are not the skills that I think of as good racing.

Someone on this board once posted that Nascar restrictor plate racing requires a skill set that is "peculiar and idiosyncratic" and quite unlike the skill set required for other races. I think that is a brilliant way to put it, and I think the same about Indycar races on high-banked ovals. Just my $0.02.
 
LewTheShoe said:
I like your comments, and I appreciate the perspective of a young fan who follows closely and knows what he is talking about!

Obviously many in this thread disagree with me, but my opinion is that this Texas race was not great racing. The closeness is exciting, but the closeness of it merely creates *the illusion* of good racing, while the drivers sit lap after lap with their right foot pressed to the floorboard. It is like Nascar at Talladega, aero dominated racing that has nothing to do with conventional auto racing skills like car control, throttle control, braking, handling. Surviving pack racing requires some skills, and I'm not saying any joker off the street could do it, but the skills are not the skills that I think of as good racing.

Someone on this board once posted that Nascar restrictor plate racing requires a skill set that is "peculiar and idiosyncratic" and quite unlike the skill set required for other races. I think that is a brilliant way to put it, and I think the same about Indycar races on high-banked ovals. Just my $0.02.
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Between the Saturday night postponement and the green on Sunday back in June teams added downforce in anticipation of the sun coming out and track temps going up, and when the series called the race back then and impounded the cars they recorded those setups and required them to be run in the continuation last night. So teams were running downforce levels a bit higher than that what they normally would have for a night race.

It also seemed like it took fifteen or so laps for the tires to start to fall off and for handling to really come into play and string the field out so the late flurry of cautions really took that out of consideration.

That said, that race had just about everything last night so I thought it was fun. Dominance, long green flag racing, tire wear, sprint racing, pit strategy, and a wild finish.
 
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