Interest builds around possible changes to NASCAR schedule

Discussion in 'NASCAR chat' started by FLRacingFan, Mar 19, 2018.

  1. IanMcVittie

    IanMcVittie Team Owner

    It isn’t something I would like but I think Nascar doing a similar thing as IndyCar with the next car may be best for the series. A lot of revenue streams have been turned off for Nascar and the teams so obviously things cannot remain the same as yesterday and today.
  2. MRM

    MRM Team Owner

    I saw something a couple of days ago that said NASCAR is considering moving the spring Phoenix race to possibly January. And a number of teams and drivers are trying to convince NASCAR to get the season over by early November to avoid the conflict with the NFL. Regarding the Phoenix issue is they'd have the same problem they have in the fall. They would be competing with the NFL playoffs unless the race was held the week before the Super Bowl with no NFL games or on Saturday the week of the conference championship games.
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  3. Charlie Spencer

    Charlie Spencer Short tracks and road courses rule.

    That's the weekend of the Rolex. I don't see NASCAR stepping on that.
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  4. Mispeedway15

    Mispeedway15 Team Owner

    Can only start so early, pretty much the whole damn country can get snow until March. I think Vegas got a snowstorm the week before the race, and golf tournaments in Arizona have been snowed out before.

    Should do Homestead followed by Daytona and then make your west coast swing. Then finish the season in Phoenix

    As for any changes or deletions, I would say any track that also has an INDYCAR race could be up so they don’t lose revenue. As a result I’d remove Pocono for one, and replace it with a rotation of Gateway-Iowa-Eldora that bounces around every three years
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  5. LouieLouie

    LouieLouie Team Owner

    As Phoenix resident I would love to have the final race here, but the core of the NASCAR community lives on the south east coast and I think that's where the season finale should be. I think Charlotte, Atlanta, or Daytona make sense to have the final race at. Homestead is ok, but maybe a little too far south! I don't know how easy it is to get to.
    When Atlanta finally decides to repave, I hope they also reconfigure the track back to an oval opposed to the D shape they have now. Then I would definitely put the final race back at Atlanta with a 2nd date.
  6. Mispeedway15

    Mispeedway15 Team Owner

    Well I’m just talking climactically. Lol November-February most of the nation is in an ice box
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  7. StandOnIt

    StandOnIt Farm Truck

    Most of the larger viewing markets I don't think care where it is. At track attendance could be lower, and that is a could, nobody knows until they try it. Increased interest could happen, but Homestead is always a sell out and gets good ratings. Hard to take a winner off the board I would guess.
  8. Elliott_Fan_9

    Elliott_Fan_9 Formerly JJ_14

    I'd take restrictor plate tracks out of the schedule as a whole. That's just my opinion; take it as a suggestion if you will.

    Restrictor plate tracks & stock cars don't go well together at all. You can put literally any other track to kick off the season, like Homestead. Tradition builds up with time I suppose.
  9. AuzGrams

    AuzGrams Team Owner

    I like it, start the weekend on Pro Bowl weekend (an event not many people care about compared to NFL games), have an off week, and then run Daytona Speedweeks as usual with the hype. I think it helps Phoenix a bit with tickets/media coverage while Daytona doesn't get affected much.

    I think theoretically if they did a midweek race, started a race in January, maybe condensed the schedule to 34 or 35 races, they could end October 22-29th or so with 3/4 off weeks.
  10. IanMcVittie

    IanMcVittie Team Owner

    Other than the weather IDK what the fascination with Homestead is. It seats less than 50k and IDK if they sell out or not but if they do people with tickets don’t use them.

    Having the finale at Daytona would be fun as the lottery style championship would really be amped up. My guess is more tix would be sold for a Daytona finale over a Homestead.
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  11. gnomesayin

    gnomesayin Team Owner

    Your point seems to be let's take a sketchy, dubious championship format and go all the way to (pardon my language) full ret*rd?
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  12. kyle18fan

    kyle18fan Proud member of Rowdy Nation Contributor

  13. Snappy D

    Snappy D 2017 Pick Em Champion 2018 Bold Predictor

    I agree with you 100%. but if they are going to keep this gimmick format mind as well jump all the way into the deep end of the pool and have the Monster Cup Bowl at Daytona. I'd be fine with it I guess.
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  14. Charlie Spencer

    Charlie Spencer Short tracks and road courses rule.

    Anything worth f'ing up is worth f'ing up right.
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  15. Mispeedway15

    Mispeedway15 Team Owner

    Well there is no RP anymore. Those are however our best rated races
  16. Charlie Spencer

    Charlie Spencer Short tracks and road courses rule.

    Without the plates previously used, I'm waiting to see if they remain the most watched (I assume 'most watched' is what you mean by 'best rated').
  17. IanMcVittie

    IanMcVittie Team Owner

    Absolutely! I think having a lottery race to determine the lottery champ would not only be appropriate but also a lot of fun. Daytona and Talladega are well attended and would get decent ratings on over the air stations. Either bring the championship back into the realm of sport or have some fun with it.
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  18. Mike Crayne

    Mike Crayne Team Owner

    There is no good reason to replace Homestead as the last race.
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  19. Charlie Spencer

    Charlie Spencer Short tracks and road courses rule.

    What does good reason have to do with NASCAR?
  20. Snappy D

    Snappy D 2017 Pick Em Champion 2018 Bold Predictor

    Don’t know if anyone here saw this but pretty cool video. I hope they get a Cup race, they have enough time for 2021.
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  21. AdoubleU24

    AdoubleU24 Team Owner

  22. FLRacingFan

    FLRacingFan Team Owner

  23. FLRacingFan

    FLRacingFan Team Owner

    Martinsville night race - cool

    Pocono doubleheader - cool, good format that several other series have had success with. Not sure how Xfinity and Truck will fit in with the track time but constant on-track activity is good.

    Phoenix replacing Homestead as finale - I’m big mad but also biased so YMMV. It makes more sense to me to end on an intermediate though.
  24. IanMcVittie

    IanMcVittie Team Owner

    I will be really interesting to see the 2020 schedule. I think doubleheader’s are a great idea and having Pocono, MIS and Dover and a couple of others make sense.

    I think you have a better chance of increasing attendance by offering a special deal for both races. There could be other promotions and inducements too. Anything that gets the season ending closer to Labor Day is a good move.
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  25. AdoubleU24

    AdoubleU24 Team Owner

    That's an incredible idea regarding Pocono. Two days of good weather in a row might be tough but otherwise I'm surprised this has never been thought of. Or maybe it has and they just never really thought of it as a viable option.

    I'm cool with Phoenix as the finale. As the bitter fan who doesn't want to go to the finale unless my guy has a shot (i.e. Gordon in 2015), it would give me another race to go to consistently LOL.
  26. Charlie Spencer

    Charlie Spencer Short tracks and road courses rule.

    The only double-header I know in a US national touring series is IndyCar's double in Detroit. That's a street course, so a double makes sense. The course has to be set up and torn down annually, so it make sense to get two races out of it while it's tying up traffic. But a permanent race track? I'd think it would prefer to have two race weekends to maximize income.
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  27. LouieLouie

    LouieLouie Team Owner

    Am I the only one that doesn't understand the purpose of a doubleheader? I know people are making the conclusion that one of the races would be held on the road course, but what if it is just 2 races on the triangle?

    To me a doubleheader at Pocono is a death sentence for the track. Because people will complain the racing is too boring and then Pocono will lose both dates.
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  28. gnomesayin

    gnomesayin Team Owner

    I interpret it as being part of the push to end the season earlier, yet being tied to the current agreements with tracks through 2020. By doing this they strike a week off the schedule, and will experiment with the doubleheader format and see how it is received. It could move to a single conventional race after that, or stay if it works well.

    I'm fine with them trying and I like the notion of it rather than just removing the second Pocono date entirely. They could do a lot with the race formats if they want to differentiate it.
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  29. Larsonfan1995

    Larsonfan1995 Team Owner

    Pocono doubleheader? I'll take it. That's my closest track. The only way that works though is if you have a ticket price that's only slightly more than a single race. The top section of the stands at Pocono costs $85 if I remember correctly. You'd need to do something like offering a $60 one day ticket or a $100 both day ticket for those seats.
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  30. Team Penske

    Team Penske Team Owner

    If you have a lot of empty seats at the two races why not give fans a 2 fer.
    You could end up with more fans for your track.
  31. IanMcVittie

    IanMcVittie Team Owner

    I think tracks like Pocono could be in line to have a one race reduction. If that is the case a doubleheader would work well as they could still have 2 races and save a boatload in expenses.
  32. IanMcVittie

    IanMcVittie Team Owner

    Pocono has not drawn well in attendance for a number of years and has oodles of unused seat inventory. They could get creative and offer some great deals on tickets.

    I think attendance for the combined Pocono dates are about 70k and I doubt that many would attend the doubleheader. If you could get 50k it wouldn’t be great but much better than having just one race.
  33. FLRacingFan

    FLRacingFan Team Owner

    This is gonna be a no from me, dawg.

  34. kkfan91

    kkfan91 Taking a 10-200

    I'm not a fan of Phoenix as the finale I feel like Homestead is a good track for it
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  35. FLRacingFan

    FLRacingFan Team Owner

    Yeah various series globally utilize doubleheader formats, sometimes where there’s one “feature” and one “sprint” race - street course or not. And I imagine they’ll offer various 3-day/2-day/1-day admission tickets to maximize revenue. As long as they maximize on-track activity I think it can work.
  36. jws926

    jws926 Nissan Is Love, Nissan Is Life

    Moving Atlanta to the 5th race of the season , good idea, right now, I have no opinion on the Poc-Oh-No double header. I am torn between making Phoenix the last race, I am bias as that is my home track, I like Homestead being the last race, but making Daytona the last race before the final set of races, thats get a "Oh hell no" from me.
  37. IanMcVittie

    IanMcVittie Team Owner

    I would still like to see Daytona or Talladega as the season finale but I won’t hold my breath.

    For the sake of the teams I would like to see travel and expense reduced as much as possible. For the fans I would like to see the races held on dates that had the best chance of hospital weather.

    IDK why Nascar doesn’t have its season finale at a track that has a higher seating capacity than Homestead or Phoenix.
  38. kyle18fan

    kyle18fan Proud member of Rowdy Nation Contributor

    Cool ..... the final 4 get taken out on a first lap crash and the champion is decided by how far the parts from the cars flew :pbjtime:
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  39. SpeedPagan

    SpeedPagan The iRacing Guru

    Finale at Bristol or Dover?
  40. Johali

    Johali Team Owner Contributor


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