I don’t care one way or the other where the schedule starts, or when any one track has its dates.
Colorado National is still open
Common sense plays a role also. Where are the best chances to have a race in Febuary where it is warm and dry
True. But there’s also a way to keep evolving while also keeping in mind what brought you there in the first place. NASCAR has shown in the past it wants to be a parallel to stick and ball sports. Some of the reason of what make those sports successful is traditions like Yankees vs Red Sox, Bears vs Packers and Tarheels vs Blue Devils. Yes those are rivals but fans like that constant reminder each year those teams play each other. College football alone has so many unique traditions that make college football what it is. Now granted so much has changed in those sports even in the last 10 years alone ( 2 more wildcards in baseball, Longer NFL season, constant NCAA realignment, College Football Playoff) that nothing stays the same forever. But I have a hard time of changing something for the sake of “Well tradition, who cares?! Change it just because!” I think there’s something to be said for “doing it because we always have” because in an ever changing world is it so bad to have one or two constants always to count on? What if those changes don’t work….if they don’t oh well but at least the fundamental principles that made you successful in the first place are still there. I guess what I’m trying to say I hope the fundamentals arnt lost.
eh ya lost me there with the stick an ball comparisons, I don't see it. Reality said fans wanted changes to the schedule, they wanted more short tracks and road courses. Did ya miss the memo?
NASCAR doesn’t address memo’s to me. They must have lost my email. I don’t like stick and ball comparisons either but wouldn’t you agree the points system that is used is very close to what is used in stick and ball sports. Wouldn’t that then invite the comparisons. Maybe I’m reaching there and apologizes if that’s the case but the core of my post of not losing your way I don’t think is controversial in the least
That's because you're think of it from a racing standpoint, not financial. If the state is willing to give them money, I'm sure local governments will give them tax breaks and sometimes the Bean counters find it almost cheaper to spend money and declare a loss than pay taxes on a profit. In the end it might not cost them near as much as one would think.
not sure the state is giving them money. Stuff like that gets realocated. I will be surprised if they get anything, and if they do, it would probably be fixed up for some of the lower more local series of racing. I wouldn't think Nascar and the Smith's are going to over saturate that area or they would have done so years ago
Looks the the governor is willing to throw in a good amount.....
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CBS PR, and nothing more.
So how is that supposed to work. Make changes that everybody likes? Hell, we can't agree on the time of day around here.
There's a group that complains regardless of what's being done. The old big wigs are ever so out of touch with the common man etc.. I don't think you are part of that group. When I see complaints about the "sacred Brickyard 400" being screwed with that's where I draw the line. If NASCAR can't touch the "tradition" they started in 1994 of holding one of the worst races in motorsports every summer then what are we doing here. It wasn't you who said that but my point is if we're just going through the motions with these stale "traditions" then that is partially what led to NASCARs decline thru the 2010s
I'll jump on this one. I never had a problem with the 1.5 mile tracks since I've been on here. I hope my post history doesnt betray me but I generally enjoyed the 1.5 milers. I do remember saying there was one too many of Kansas and Texas, since Texas is done to one and Kansas is well yeah in my view it could use one less. I generally never had a problem with the overall layout of the Cup Schedule, I liked knowing where they were at certain times of the year without having to look at the calendar. It's rather unfortunate if there is a small section of us on here disagreeing or not even at that point yet just asking why some of the proposed changes have to be done in the first place and then getting called death bedder, fear monger and the like. I would think we are just bantering and going back n forth here. Whatever changes do happen I will guarantee some will like it and some wont, not everyone is going to be 100% on board.
we might not be able to agree on time because theres some of us in different parts of the US, in Canada and the world. I dont think I have gotten into a brouhaha on here about time though, maybe before I was a member this went down.
Yeah, no telling who came up with the super bowl b.s., doesn't matter, it has little if anything in common with the super bowl thank gawd. It's the first big race of the season. I personally think they have diluted the hell out of it with the clash, duel one and two. So glad to have a break and have the clash somewhere else.
actually the Brickyard 400 was my favorite race each year on the calendar. That and the Southern 500 were ones I was hoping never got messed with
I couldn't agree more. I called it months ago when the schedule came out and before all of the cries and shame on Nascars came about. The same ones deathbedding the old schedule, will deathbed the changes. It's a personality deal IMO. Nascar doesn't operate on "feelings" they work hard to build the sport for todays fans
I wouldn't be shocked to see the Brickyard eventually go back to the oval. I think a symmetrical car could generate some serious drafts down the straights which is what you have to have for a race worth watching there
Agree to disagree. I always thought fans deserved better than the oval races there. Besides the wild race Kasey Kahne won I can't remember any fun races there and that was only fun due to chaos. Maybe it's my memory failing me but I'm glad NASCAR was willing to change that to the RC
I didnt think of that. That's a good point. Will have to see how that plays out. Thankfully NASCAR has shown they'll adapt one way or the other to put on a better show.
compared to the endless follow the leader on a one lane track with empty bleachers, the road course this year was a blast to watch.
yea I was always entertained by the racing there. I was a sucker for the strategy, pit stops and track position meant the world and then when a pass was made it was worked for. I for some reason was never bored watching a race there on TV. I also felt it was a big deal to the drivers and teams to win there, maybe me being from the midwest skewed that but it just felt like a big time event to me. I do hope they go back to the oval for a bit to see how the new car does there, maybe it will be more exciting for fans.
Daytona did not begin with the oval and it isn't even the oldest track on the circuit. I would HAAAATE if it was no longer the season opener but I would also keep an open mind about another track opening the season. Again, it's all about the on-track product and if there was a track like Martinsville that opened the season, I would be OPEN to such an idea.
Indy oval was overall entertaining before stage racing due to the long green flag strategy, much like the Indy 500. The road course is my preference if stages continue to exist
kinda close the coliseum is.
If they did that, I would rather they just end the regular season and playoffs at Daytona
yep from a weather standpoint, I believe Daytona will always be one of the beginning of the season races. After all it is the headquarters of Nascar
The only problem with the Indy RC this year was that the combined total number of laps was about ten too many for the TMNTs to bear.
There are several hauler drivers out here in the hallway. I'm told being tarred and feathered isn't as painful as it's made out to be; let us know, will you?
