Nitro, you know I'm on the Bowman bandwagon, but I too would like to see some more consistency. It seems like when the 88 is off, they are WAY off. It MAY be a crew chief thing. I'm not really sure what I think about Ives. I understand that he inherited a declining Dale Jr, and then had to endure a season with fill in drivers, a year with a lame duck Jr, and then having to pretty much start all over with Bowman, while dealing with a revolving door of aero changes and a off its game HMS, so I'm prepared to cut him some slack, but at this point he is no Chad or Alan. I think Alex can have a great career, but to be 100% honest, I still think he is still more of a question mark than his two younger teammates. I see him as a solid playoff driver, but maybe not a final four driver. I will preface this conversation by saying that even while being a huge fan, I BADLY underestimated the potential of both Jeff Gordon and Jimmie Johnson, to the point that my wife STILL teases me about it, so take my comments for what they're worth.