Jeffrey00
Stamos Cozy
Looks like Hamlin has had it out for Joey for a while now.
Is Denny Hamlin the new Kyle Busch?
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SlicedBread22
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Truex and Biffle/or Earnhardt? Preferably JJ but I doubt it.
My Prediction for the 2013 chase final standings and who will win how many times(because why not?)
1-Brad Keselowski(4)
2-Kyle Busch (5)
3- Carl Edwards (2)
4-Kasey Kahne (3)
5-Tony Stewart (1)
6-Joey Logano(3)
7-Clint Bowyer(2)
8-Jeff Gordon(2)
9-Matt Kenseth(4)
10-Kevin Harvick (wc)(2)
11-Kurt Busch(wc)(1)
12-Jimmie Johnson(3)
Jeffrey00
Stamos Cozy
Joey will not get three wins. He might luck into 1, but not 3.
Lol, and Jimmie Johnson 12th? Really....okay kiddo go sit back down at the kids tables. Leave the discussion to the adults.
SlicedBread22
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I think there will be no luck about it. I think he'll get 2 and contend for a few more. And I added one just because why not lol. I also know JJ probably wont be 12th but I mean hey... I dont like him and its my list he's lucky he made the cut.. dick.
Jeffrey00
Stamos Cozy
ted@economy
in the interest of equal time
What was that about ?
SlicedBread22
3x!
Are one...
How about this for a prediction?
1-Joey Logano (17)
2Scott Riggs(2)
3-Joe Nemechek(1)
4-Danica Patrick(2)
5-Reed Sorenson(2)
6-Paul Menard(1)
7- Ricky Stenhouse(2)
8- Juan Pablo Montoya(1)
9-Landon Cassill(2)
10-Terry Labonte(3)
11- Scott Speed(1)
12- AJ Allmendinger(2)
There thats more like it! You gona whine about this one too? LOL WHO CARES?! Its a prediction.. get over yourself
Jeffrey00
Stamos Cozy
Jeffrey00
Stamos Cozy
Nice you made a list of how many DNFs each driver will have. Awesome!
SlicedBread22
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LOL Good one.. I think there'd have to be an on track terrorist attack for the standings to look like this after Homestead. Even Danica made it lol.
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#17D500winner
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Looks like Hamlin has had it out for Joey for a while now.
It's not like he has a Pop-Tart
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MrSluggo
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FenderBumper
The "good old days" ??
I think it was Gluck who commented on this picture "Which one is Joey".
Charlie Spencer
Road courses and short tracks.
When Joey does, it's more likely he'll do so at the expense of Brandon McReynolds, Ty Dillon, Elle Gordon, and the rest of the 2020 field.Well someone's gotta start not making the chase when Joey does.
FLRacingFan
Team Owner
I'm not entirely sold on Truex Jr. The three prior years he finished no better than 18th in points and still hasn't won since '07. Also take into account that each year multiple well-known drivers struggle and miss the Chase for whatever reasons. Two years ago it was Bowyer/Kahne/Biffle, three years ago Martin/Kahne/Earnhardt, four years ago Kyle Busch/Kenseth/Jr./Harvick, etc. I think Joey has a fair shot.
StandOnIt
Farm Truck
I would get rid of Truex after this year if he doesn't start winning, he doesn't have a good record at all for the equipment he is driving.
ted@economy
in the interest of equal time
Tough decision , he's like a top 15 driver . You aren't going to find a top 10 driver who wants that ride , so you either go with an Ambrose or Allmendinger type or opt for a new kid . Either way , good chance you will be worse off (at least in the short term) . I like Truex and 15th or better should keep him workin. Do you have someone in mind?
ToyYoda
Team Owner
Probably hasn't helped his cause that he's 3+ years winless in that car, and Bowyer came in and got 3 wins and a 2nd place points finish his first year with the team in essentially the same equipment.
StandOnIt
Farm Truck
vickers? He is already driving part time for MWR, but his record is about the same as Truex . James Buescher Might be ready, he is in trucks again this year. Kyle Larson is probably tied up, and it may be a bit premature. Allgaier maybe. Truex hasn't been cutting it for years One win in ten years? One in over 265 races. I don't know, I guess he is making MWR money, he has a steady sponsor.
breatheoflife
Team Owner
I agree, but I do think hes better than Joey. Thats why I had him in that category.
StandOnIt
Farm Truck
I am not ready to give up on Joey, he was racing for the lead when he got dumped last week. Just getting started in a new team and all, he was fast last week and he was in a position to win. He bumped Martin for a win and he didn't wreck Mark. Hamlin went out of his way to screw him up last week. Joey already has two wins in 151 starts, Joey has a better record.
ted@economy
in the interest of equal time
How about a swap ? Truex for Montoya , they both might benifit .
SlicedBread22
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Not to mention Joey has been fast in every race this year so far and has just had terrible luck. Ran inside top 10 all day in the 500 until his fuel pump issue then hung at the back down a lap, got his lap back and drove straight back to the top 6 only to get shuffled back for a 19th place finish. Phoenix was running top 10 all day again, ran out of fuel with 5 laps to go, and that was a fuel line issue that they have fixed. In Las Vegas he was the fastest car for the better part of the second half of the race but had already had a speeding penalty and didnt get the luck to get back on the lead lap for a long time with the long green flag runs, he still finished 12th on the lead lap... and we all know what happened when he was running for the lead at Bristol with about 170 laps to go. Still drove back to 6th with a smashed car but then got hit again and fell back. Theyre very fast, great for only having 4 races together. Once they start putting full races together they could be fighting for top 10s every week. Im excited to see how that Ford power will fare at Auto Club this weekend.
I think he will start making the chase before that. But at the same time I completely agree, that's a big part of why Im such a fan of his. He's done pretty well for himself given the fact that he's only 22 years old. Yet he still has probably 2 or 3 decades left in his career to improve. That's more than enough time. Look at Brad Keselowski, two years ago he was a nobody. He just started winning races all the time out of no where and now hes the defending champ. What's to keep Joey from having a similar breakout in the next couple years? Especially given that they're team mates now. Joey will get there soon enough. You're right tho Joey will be one of the big guys by the time we get to 2020. At least I wont be a wagon jumper..Ill be able to say I was rootin for him when he was still a rookie.
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MrSluggo
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Went from sliced bread to banana bread.
SlicedBread22
3x!
Charlie Spencer
Road courses and short tracks.
I don't know why not. It's a team that put two cars in the '12 Chase, and just missed the third because of the tag-team drivers. Maybe it's just me, but the MWR Toyotas seem to hang together better than the Gibbs rides. If an MWR seat opened, I wouldn't be surprised to see a Ganassi or Petty driver move over.
Granted. It isn't critical for him to make the Chase this year or next. He's got a couple of decades ahead of him. But with that said, Kenseth and Keselowski both had titles earlier in their careers than where Joey is now.
Man, I'd rather have banana bread any day of the week. Slice it thick and toss it in the toaster. Good stuff, man; good stuff.
FenderBumper
The "good old days" ??
Joey needs a little focus. He screwed up at Daytona and killed the inside line by side drafting Hamlin on the restart. Then he seemed to go out of his way to bump Hamlin on the Bristol restart, and that got him hit by Regan smith and that killed his day.
ted@economy
in the interest of equal time
That's what I meant . Your aren't going to get a better driver , there will be lots of drivers wanting to move up to that ride , but no certainty they will do a better job . There isn't likely another Kenseth type move out there . You could take a flyer on a Kurt Busch or a Juan Pablo , but will they do as good a job with the sponsor as well as on track? You could move up a kid like Stenhouse but that's a five year project at best . I think MWR has gotta be happy they have Truex and sad they missed Kenseth.
HoneyBadger
I love short track racing (Taylor's Version)
StandOnIt
Farm Truck
even though MWR is having to have "pinch" drivers because Mark is driving part time, I don't hear anybody complaining. I think sometimes Mark acts like he wants to retire when he really doesn't.
SlicedBread22
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Maybe, but they also started their careers at a later age, and I think maturity has a lot to do with being a good cup driver, you get older and you just kind of look at things differently, certain things only come with age. Joey will be alright. Also, he still has time to become the sports youngest champion lol.
ted@economy
in the interest of equal time
There is a cycle and it does take a few years to get through it . The need to prove yourself and show that you belong ends up wrecking a few racecars and getting into some confrontations with other drivers . Learning to race clean , save your equipment , communicate with your crew , and act like a winner on and off the track are part of maturing . Guys who have been champions in other series , come into cup expecting to beat Johnson , Harvick , Stewart , Biffle , Edwards and the rest , but that isn't easy . They are f..n good .
SlicedBread22
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Yeah well theyre the best in the world at what they do. Ive always known Logano will make it there eventually. Sometimes it sucks lol but I know he'll get there. I have years of I told you so's ahead of me. Ive put up with A LOT of ball busting from the guys I watch races with. Although I do see a big change in him this year. I think he has a lot more confidence. Clearly Denny was sucking some of that out of him and with rumours of losing his ride for the past 2 years and all that Im not surprised he was overwhelmed. Being 19-22 years old and having to race against the best in the world and beat them while dealing with all the off track stuff. I think...know...hes in a better place now and he will excel with Penske.. so far this year is looking alright but even if not like I said Im in for the long haul. One thing Ive always wondered.. will he ever be referred to as Joe Logano? or is he stuck with Joey til hes an old man? lol
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#17D500winner
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He wont be referred to as Joe until he takes his skirt off. Maybe Keselowski can help him that while he's busy turning him into the 2nd best driver in the history of Nascar.
dpkimmel2001
Team Owner
Bobby Labonte is still Bobby Labonte. Joey will always be Joey.
SlicedBread22
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That's what I was thinking it seems weird to think of him as Joe.
Well he took a step toward that last week.. now just need to perform. Second best in history is pretty damn good. Id be happy with that.
FenderBumper
The "good old days" ??
Well, yeah. It would be awful confusing if they changed their names.
Joey is a 22 year old who had a very sheltered childhood. I still remember his mother saying on national TV that she isn't ready to LET her 20 year old son move out on his own...
.He'll change as he matures.
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