Charlie Spencer
Road courses and short tracks.
I'll take your word; I don't look at Fox outside races..
Is the Bristol Night Race the 4th Jewel?
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HoneyBadger
I love short track racing (Taylor's Version)
I didn't enjoy the "Busch Crash," as Mike Joy called it. Just tore up too many cars in that race every year. But I do think Los Angeles should be a regular-season race. Especially since it's still 50/50 as to whether Auto Club even gets built. Doubt is increasing by the day.
I really don't like the ARCA race being right before the Xfinity race, and after the Truck Series race, when drivers have to run that race to get approval. It should be the week before, even if there's no Busch Clash.
ANd let me add to my thoughts on Los Angeles. I think they should race at the Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum instead of in Fontana anyway.
HoneyBadger
I love short track racing (Taylor's Version)
Some of the NFL games I've seen on Fox, they've promoted the Los Angeles race heavily with no mention of the Daytona 500.
When FS1 replaced SPEED, the Daytona 500 became "just another race." The nightly primetime coverage of Daytona Speedweeks was replaced with basketbore. And now that there's virtually no on-track extracurriculars before the qualifiers and Duels, it's gotten even worse.
It's a sharp contrast to NBC. Nashville was NBC's first race, but Chicago was the prized broadcast for NBC and NBC made sure of it. They tied Chicago into their promotion of the Nashville race. They pushed Nashville hard, but continued to push Chicago as The BFD.
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I think the most Nascar memorial moment at Indianapolis was that time when they had a caution for the released ballons.
racingfan7
Start and Park
They are going to crash cars no matter what in the Clash so they might as make it into a Daytona exhibition race and incentivize pole winners, Daytona 500 winners, Clash winners only.
For example:
Friday - Clash practice (30 minutes) and qualifying draw
Saturday - ARCA 200 & Clash @ Daytona (60 laps)
Sunday - OFF SUPER BOWL OFF
Monday - OFF
Tuesday - Daytona 500 practice (1 hour)
Wednesday - IROC @ Daytona, Daytona 500 qualifying
Thursday - Duel 150 Races
Friday - Truck Series 250, Daytona 500 practice (1 hour)
Saturday - Xfinity 300, Daytona 500 final practice (1 hour)
Sunday - Daytona 500
week after that
Friday - LA Coliseum Cup practice (1 hour), NASCAR Mexico Series practice
Saturday - Cup qualifying & heats/LCQ (29-40), NASCAR Mexico Series 150 qualifying & race
Sunday - LA Coliseum 500 (28 cars)
Charlie Spencer
Road courses and short tracks.
No one would be there to watch, including TV.
racingfan7
Start and Park
The simple solution is to bring back the Clash @ Daytona on Saturday night w/ARCA before the Super Bowl Sunday and build up Daytona Speedweeks again. Perhaps Ray Evernham & IROC can hold a race midweek or something as well. Maybe try to get Stadium Super Trucks for a couple days before the 500 in the afternoon with a makeshift ramp course.
Also country acts like Lainey Wilson & Taylor Swift would be a good look for the 500 race even if you’re a rebel male.
Charlie Spencer
Road courses and short tracks.
I'd prefer to not see a points race at any track that can't run a 36- to 40-car field, and doesn't have pit road capacity for green flag stops. This was one of my complaints regarding Bristol dirt. This is the top tier of stock car racing; don't dumb it down.
Charlie Spencer
Road courses and short tracks.
Nah, kissing the bircks and then Tiregate, then Tony winning. He was going to celebrate his way, and damn what the track, network, or NASCAR had scheduled.
HoneyBadger
I love short track racing (Taylor's Version)
Racing in Downtown Los Angeles trumps any concerns about pit stops for me. I'd rather deal with that than race over an hour away from Los Angeles.
racingfan7
Start and Park
I think a LA Coliseum regular season race has potential to be another Madhouse like Bristol & Martinsville if they could have a 500 lap race with 28-32 cars. Have eliminations 29-44 the day before.
HoneyBadger
I love short track racing (Taylor's Version)
I have a feeling this event won’t be renewed too much longer if at all.
Los Angeles has the Olympic Summer Games in 2028.
Charlie Spencer
Road courses and short tracks.
I can't believe I'm saying this, as much as I dislike the layout, but then run at Long Beach. I'd rather see that than a product that's neutered to fit a facility and gives Angelenos a false impression of what the rest of the Cup season looks like. The NFL doesn't play flag football in Europe. The NBA doesn't play half-court at the All-Star game.
Hell, they can't even get the correct starting time on the tickets!
racingfan7
Start and Park
NASCAR is making a big mistake hitching their britches to a temporary event. They should make it permanent & move to a temporary venue like the Daytona Road Course or Sonoma for 2028.
FLRacingFan
Team Owner
It’s probably been a decade since I saw the analysis but I remember reading a piece about how the Brickyard was the race with single smallest variance between average race finish position and average championship finish position, and has a pretty remarkable record of drivers winning both the Brickyard and the Cup title in the same season. I think that really spoke towards how much effort the teams and drivers put towards the race and the kind of technical and driving challenge it presents.
donthaveanickname
Team Owner
I would argue against that. We have pretty much no coverage of any major sport on Free-TV.
There are several NFL games on broadcast networks in the states every week, we get a total of three Bundesliga games per season with the rest being on Sky and DAZN.
HoneyBadger
I love short track racing (Taylor's Version)
I’ve seen international sports feeds. Sure you pay for it, but your sports are aired without interruption. We pay twice as much for cable as the rest of the industrialized world and get absolutely bombarded with commercials.
And most NASCAR races will be on cable beginning 2025. Only 1/4 of the schedule will be on OTA TV.
Fox execs even put something out last month about the importance of sports on OTA TV and how being in linear cable is basically a death sentence yet that’s where they’re putting NASCAR.
donthaveanickname
Team Owner
I agree that reducing the number of races on broadcast TV from 20 to 9 isn't helpful. Wo knows if cable is still a thing by 2031.
We never had pay-TV but I believe Pay-TV channels in this country indeed show their programming without commercial breaks.
When it comes to private free-TV channels the amount of commercials is comparable to American networks. RTL F1 telecasts resembled Fox NASCAR telecasts a lot.
HoneyBadger
I love short track racing (Taylor's Version)
The average price of cable TV in the United States is $217.42. From what I've read, it's nowhere close to that in European nations.
donthaveanickname
Team Owner
Well that's true, at least in my country.
Even if you wanted to buy all available sports packages on Sky, DAZN and Amazon it should be "only" around €100.
I'm actually surprised there are still more than 70 million households with cable in the states when costs are that high.
HoneyBadger
I love short track racing (Taylor's Version)
Most Americans don’t realize that we’re getting scammed.
The American version of capitalism is a giant ponzi scheme.