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robbybee
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This is how I feel every time there is a Plate Race... It's like, "Let's get this sh!t overwith so that we can get back to racing."
This is how I feel every time there is a Plate Race... It's like, "Let's get this sh!t overwith so that we can get back to racing."
HoneyBadger
I love short track racing (Taylor's Version)
I can't get excited for plate races with the two car tandems anymore. It's boring as hell for 187 laps.
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GREAT AMERICAN RACE FAN
Guest
Bypass the Tube Steaks and go for the Roasted Turkey Leg, usually found under the trioval tower. Goes good with with a Cold 16oz beer.
HoneyBadger
I love short track racing (Taylor's Version)
I was talking about the god awful Martinsville hot dogs.
blue92
Team Owner
Thursdays will see FI Cup cars on the track should be interesting
Wonder if NA$CAR will look to the V-8 Supercars for their V-8 FI engines. Maybe something like this.
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robbybee
Guest
No piccie, Blue...
FenderBumper
The "good old days" ??
I used to skip the plate races. 2 trains racing = train wreck. Now the drivers have more control over their destiny, and the finish last time was amazing.
dpkimmel2001
Team Owner
That's probably just you. I was highly disappointed in the finish this past spring @ Talladega. Clearly there was room for it to have been five wide, two deep @ the line rather than only four wide, two deep. I mean, how boring was that anyway?
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FlFlash
Guest
That's probably just you. I was highly disappointed in the finish this past spring @ Talladega. Clearly there was room for it to have been five wide, two deep @ the line rather than only four wide, two deep. I mean, how boring was that anyway?
Sorry DP tried to watch the clip you posted butt I kept dozeing off before it was over
I did'nt realize how much Bowyer/Harvick had pinched Edwards/Biffle up there till I watched that last angle, Man Edwards was puttin it in a little hole
funny thing is if Bowyer had'nt have moved up he may just have Won!
Tennessee Racing
Formerly Stewart Fan
2 exciting laps in what a 190 lap race? I'm glad you guys enjoyed it though.
FenderBumper
The "good old days" ??
They was so much going on in that last lap. Gordon cost himself the win by jumping high to draft Bowyer, and JJ makes a great move to the bottom. Martin tried to block, but Jeff had gone too high. If Mark had broken off and gone low, he would have won.
That move by JJ was risky, but it worked, Jr wasn't ready for it, but JJ kept it straight. Then Jr slides out and side drafts Mark and seperates him from Gordon, and that was the end for the 24. That little move by Jr is what won JJ the race.
That was the best plate race I have seen in a long time.
I keep getting a Valentines day massacre feeling about this weekend. I get a sense that more than half of the chasers will have very bad days, and it will include 3 or 4 of the guys at the top.
That move by JJ was risky, but it worked, Jr wasn't ready for it, but JJ kept it straight. Then Jr slides out and side drafts Mark and seperates him from Gordon, and that was the end for the 24. That little move by Jr is what won JJ the race.
That was the best plate race I have seen in a long time.
I keep getting a Valentines day massacre feeling about this weekend. I get a sense that more than half of the chasers will have very bad days, and it will include 3 or 4 of the guys at the top.
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FlFlash
Guest
Only One lap really counts in any race!
dpkimmel2001
Team Owner
Sorry DP tried to watch the clip you posted butt I kept dozeing off before it was over
I should have posted a warning.
I kinda hope Earnhardt Jr. starts on the pole and in the opening lap the other 11 cars in the Chase get caught up in the 1. That's about his only chance at taking home the hardware this season.
Tennessee Racing
Formerly Stewart Fan
True, but it's like a movie that is awful but has a cool action scene in the last 5 minutes. Does that really make up for 95% of the movie being bad?
FenderBumper
The "good old days" ??
...if the popcorn is good.
What was the excitement in the past? Waiting for the big one. Period.
If we HAVE to have super speedways, pod racing gives us some strategy and passing to watch.
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FlFlash
Guest
I've put up with ALOT more just to get to the best part
I dunno maybe yall don't watch a race the way I do but I find things interesting from begining to end in most all of them wether it's studying strategy, watching pit stops, the lines that different drivers run during different stages of the race heck I even find the races at Kansas and California interesting. There's alot more to watch for than just the wrecks and passing for me.
then there's always that sweet young lady going down the stairs over in section....
FenderBumper
The "good old days" ??
dpkimmel2001
Team Owner
Early indications are fuel injection hasn't changed anything about drafting. "Nothing real different," Harvick just told Menard on radio.
Update from fuel injection test at 'Dega: The Childress cars (Harvick/Menard) have been drafting for probably 10 laps now w/o switching.
Update from fuel injection test at 'Dega: The Childress cars (Harvick/Menard) have been drafting for probably 10 laps now w/o switching.
dpkimmel2001
Team Owner
Decal to be on all cars/trucks @ Talladega this weekend.....
dpkimmel2001
Team Owner
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FlFlash
Guest
Decal to be on all cars/trucks @ Talladega this weekend.....
Really Cool! but it's always bad to see those black stickers
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FlFlash
Guest
The fuel injection with it's more even fuel distribution is helping keep the center cylinders cooler than the open plenum carburated engine did, a little byproduct that not to many gave thought too.
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FlFlash
Guest
Harvick has 3 Top fives in the last 3 Degga races:Won- Spring 2010 Talladega's Longest Race.
2nd- Fall 2010.
5th- Spring this year.
Should be due for another Win
FenderBumper
The "good old days" ??
Something else I'm not sure has been factored in. The plate now mounts under the throttle body, so the air moving through it doesn't have any gas mixed in as before. This means a slightly higher volumn of air will pass through than the same sized plate on a carb system. Teams could use this to increase the fuel load to help cool the engine even more.
dpkimmel2001
Team Owner
I suppose that we'll all find out if your theories are true tomorrow when the cars all hit the track @ 2:30 on SPEED. That will be a good indication of just how long these teams can hook up together.
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FlFlash
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They'll still have to tune the engine for max power/reliabilty which will bring the fuel/air ratio back similar to what it was carburated. Although with more airflow due to no gas being in the mixture pre-plate we could see more POWER that is if NASCAR dosent mess with plate size again
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FlFlash
Guest
That won't be the FI cars though.
dpkimmel2001
Team Owner
I guess I misunderstood your point then. I thought that you were saying that the only reason that they were able to run so long today without switching is because they were running fuel injection that allowed for them to run cooler. I was simply saying that they'll all be hitting the track for practice tomorrow in a normally aspirated engine and maybe we'd see that they can't run as many laps together.
I guess the excitement of NASCAR switching to FI escapes me. I don't understand, as a fan, what difference it could possibly make to what I see take place on the track.
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FlFlash
Guest
I guess I misunderstood your point then. I thought that you were saying that the only reason that they were able to run so long today without switching is because they were running fuel injection that allowed for them to run cooler. I was simply saying that they'll all be hitting the track for practice tomorrow in a normally aspirated engine and maybe we'd see that they can't run as many laps together.
I guess the excitement of NASCAR switching to FI escapes me. I don't understand, as a fan, what difference it could possibly make to what I see take place on the track.
Oh okay I see what your saying now, yes that should give us a referance point.
The FI is interesting for me technicaly, I don't beleive it will have any effect on the racing at all.
dpkimmel2001
Team Owner
That's kinda what I figured. I mean it's interesting and all to read/learn about, in my case', but I'm not getting all that excited about it.
What I am waiting for is when the new body styles come to Cup in 2013. That will be a welcome change that we can all see. Some brand identity will come back and with that probably the whining. There will still be the contingent of fans that will whine because it still isn't a stock car and will continue to misspell NASCAR because of it. There will also be whining by the car owners and some drivers about how certain manufacturers are getting preferential treatment. Surely many of you out there remember Jack Roush and his complaining. Other owners as well.
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FlFlash
Guest
LOL, DP one of my favorite times in NASCAR was the late 80's early 90's while we still had Fords Thunderbirds, Chevrolet Monte Carlo's and Lumina's, Pontiac Gran Prix's, Oldsmobile's and of course Buick Regals/GranSport's.
We had spoiler height, valance height, hood height and grille cover changes weekly it seemed, Fun Stuff!
Jack Roush has never whined about anything has he?
We had spoiler height, valance height, hood height and grille cover changes weekly it seemed, Fun Stuff!
Jack Roush has never whined about anything has he?
dpkimmel2001
Team Owner
We are basically going to run full circle here. In a short period of time we'll be dealing with different templates again and leading into races like this weekend there will be lots of finger pointing. Yes the late 80's early 90's were good times but you know what, I still enjoy this sport every weekend. I still try to go to as many of these events as I can justify financially and I have just a good a time now at the races as I did when I first started going. Only now, I have a wife, son and daughter that enjoy it as much as I do. Can't wait for Sundays. 
FenderBumper
The "good old days" ??
We are basically going to run full circle here. In a short period of time we'll be dealing with different templates again and leading into races like this weekend there will be lots of finger pointing. Yes the late 80's early 90's were good times but you know what, I still enjoy this sport every weekend. I still try to go to as many of these events as I can justify financially and I have just a good a time now at the races as I did when I first started going. Only now, I have a wife, son and daughter that enjoy it as much as I do. Can't wait for Sundays.
Why does NASCAR still use templates when the could use laser measuring and allow all kinds of models, like the days of old.
We are basically going to run full circle here. In a short period of time we'll be dealing with different templates again and leading into races like this weekend there will be lots of finger pointing. Yes the late 80's early 90's were good times but you know what, I still enjoy this sport every weekend. I still try to go to as many of these events as I can justify financially and I have just a good a time now at the races as I did when I first started going. Only now, I have a wife, son and daughter that enjoy it as much as I do. Can't wait for Sundays.
And Roush, RCR, RHR and JGR will sandbag during practice and complain about their noses so NASCAR will let them make changes. Sound familiar?
dpkimmel2001
Team Owner
I'm starting to have flashbacks!
klemmabyna
Team Owner
i hate restrictor plate tracks. more than ever with the two car stuff.
my biggest interest this weekend will be who cooks an engine pushing a chase teamate too long, and which chase racer is eliminated in the big one. dan wheldon's memory may ride with every driver, but come the last five laps, i'm worried that most racers will forget the reward versus the risk.
jmo
tracy williamson
delavan,wi
my biggest interest this weekend will be who cooks an engine pushing a chase teamate too long, and which chase racer is eliminated in the big one. dan wheldon's memory may ride with every driver, but come the last five laps, i'm worried that most racers will forget the reward versus the risk.
jmo
tracy williamson
delavan,wi
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robbybee
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FlFlash
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Baynes got Edwards backside
Here's an interesting article Looks like the Pushies and Pushers are started to line up!
http://www.nascar.com/news/111019/tbayne-push-cedwards-talladega/index.html
Here's an interesting article Looks like the Pushies and Pushers are started to line up!
http://www.nascar.com/news/111019/tbayne-push-cedwards-talladega/index.html
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KingGlamis
Guest
Edwards and Bayne are going to ride around in the back all day until the end? While I get the strategy, I don't agree with it. That's what sucks about plate races. Some teams think of it as a short race to the finish at the end. Might as well change the race to only 20 laps and let everyone have at it. If I was a fan of Edwards I would be seriously bummed by that strategy. Not to mention the fact that it doesn't guarantee that you will avoid the big one (unless you are a half-lap back). When the big one happens I would much rather be the leader than way back in the pack.