Jimmie Johnson to Retire after 2020

The more I watch the interviews, the more I realize that for the first time in a few years, the 9 is not going to be HMS' priority. Given Rick's and Jimmie's (repeated) comments, it seems really clear that the organization is going to make the 48 going out on top #1 priority.

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He said the same thing last year FWIW. I think he will get a better car to give it a shot. I'm optimistic that the Chevy's will be more competitive across the board. His little girls are darling.


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nascarwoman said:
This has gone in a direction that invites members to fight each other.
Please refer to the OP. Keep to the subject.
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First off, you say that like it's a bad thing. ;) Secondly, you can delete the text of my post, but that picture was WAY too hilarious to take down.........
 
jaqua19 said:
The more I watch the interviews, the more I realize that for the first time in a few years, the 9 is not going to be HMS' priority. Given Rick's and Jimmie's (repeated) comments, it seems really clear that the organization is going to make the 48 going out on top #1 priority.

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I think you’re setting yourself up for disappointment. Chase has been the top dog the last few years and was a bad motor away from possibly racing for a championship
 
DaBiff1618 said:
I think you’re setting yourself up for disappointment. Chase has been the top dog the last few years and was a bad motor away from possibly racing for a championship
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Broke an axle at Martinsville that put them behind the 8 ball also.
 
DaBiff1618 said:
I think you’re setting yourself up for disappointment. Chase has been the top dog the last few years and was a bad motor away from possibly racing for a championship
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I would further add that the organization couldn't even pool their resources to ensure Chase made it thru the round of 8 as the lone remaining HMS driver. Jimmie isn't guaranteed anything based on that. Bad part after bad part.
 
AdoubleU24 said:
I would further add that the organization couldn't even pool their resources to ensure Chase made it thru the round of 8 as the lone remaining HMS driver. Jimmie isn't guaranteed anything based on that. Bad part after bad part.
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There isn't any proof of that, part failures can happen to anybody, they are rare though. Chase cut a tire and backed it into the wall at Phoenix that took him out of it. There isn't a thing a team can do about that either, racing luck. I think it wasn't from lack of trying, it just wasn't meant to be.
 
jaqua19 said:
The more I watch the interviews, the more I realize that for the first time in a few years, the 9 is not going to be HMS' priority. Given Rick's and Jimmie's (repeated) comments, it seems really clear that the organization is going to make the 48 going out on top #1 priority.

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Not sure about this as Chase was pretty close to making the Final Four if it wasn’t for bad luck. I would think Rick knows Chase is the right horse to back as the #1 HMS car. I would also make a case for Byron being #2 because maybe this is a BOLD prediction....maybe it isn’t but I’m wagering on the 24 to be the breakout team for 2020. I think JJ wins a race, makes the playoffs and might get through a round but I would put the ceiling on that.
 
DaBiff1618 said:
I think you’re setting yourself up for disappointment. Chase has been the top dog the last few years and was a bad motor away from possibly racing for a championship
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Hendrick engines were awful in the playoffs. Good thing Larson didn't make the final 4 or that expired engine would've been heartbreaking.
 
jaqua19 said:
The more I watch the interviews, the more I realize that for the first time in a few years, the 9 is not going to be HMS' priority. Given Rick's and Jimmie's (repeated) comments, it seems really clear that the organization is going to make the 48 going out on top #1 priority.

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HMS is putting their eggs in the 24 basket, the 48 isn't going to " go out on top " unless the rest of the drivers are in on a scam
 
My theory is that the seat swap with Fernado Alonso really forced him into considering retirement. He seemed super pumped by that experience (has referenced it multiple times in disparate media appearances, for example), and has expressed his interest in running open-wheel / other forms of motorspots. He probably realizes he's wasting his time in NASCAR at this point.
 
DaBiff1618 said:
I think you’re setting yourself up for disappointment. Chase has been the top dog the last few years and was a bad motor away from possibly racing for a championship
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Possibly, wouldn't call it a disappointment. I'm just saying, it seems that this may be priority #1. Just like getting the 48 into the playoffs was for a bit. Infact, probably from race 20-30, Jimmie was outrunning the other HMS cars. Dunno if he'll finish ahead, but it seems that's going to be priority.

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DSquad48 said:
My theory is that the seat swap with Fernado Alonso really forced him into considering retirement. He seemed super pumped by that experience (has referenced it multiple times in disparate media appearances, for example), and has expressed his interest in running open-wheel / other forms of motorspots. He probably realizes he's wasting his time in NASCAR at this point.
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I don’t think this is too far from the truth really. I mean we all know he’s not going to run an F1 car full time for his next move, but maybe the experience of that seat swap opened up his eyes to a world outside 38 weeks a year of NASCAR. His health seems good, he’s accomplished pretty much all one can in NASCAR why not try something else???
 
kyle18fan said:
Yeah, been watching since they started televising races, no driver has ever bored me quite as much as the soon to be gone driver of the 48
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Bored you with his on-track performance, or how he is off the track? Honestly, I don't care what any of them say or do when they're out of the car (or any what any other entertainer does on their own time either). JJ's right foot provided me plenty of racing excitement over the years, and that's all I ask of a driver.

Let's see if I understand. Talking about Kyle bad, talking about Chase good.

Got it.

StandOnIt said:
I turned up my tinfoil hat. Johnson has signed to drive the Haas F-1 car in 2012
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Both cars.
 
I think Jimmie will get a send off win like Kenseth/Stewart/Gordon did, but that’s probably the extent of what he’s gonna do next year. Better then my previous favorites Greg Biffle and Bobby Labonte got lol
 
Snappy D said:
I don’t think this is too far from the truth really. I mean we all know he’s not going to run an F1 car full time for his next move, but maybe the experience of that seat swap opened up his eyes to a world outside 38 weeks a year of NASCAR. His health seems good, he’s accomplished pretty much all one can in NASCAR why not try something else???
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The problem is, exactly WHO is looking for a 45 year old driver with little to no experience in that form of racing, 7 time Cup champion or not? Even in sportscar racing, any kind of gig other than a one-off would be tough to find unless you bring money, and who knows if that's something Jimmie is willing to do. If Jimmie stays loyal to GM, the opportunities there are even fewer. Jimmie could go dirt racing, but it's dangerous and he no experience there. Kenny Wallace talked on Dale Jr's podcast about how difficult of a transition that is, and how you will make a fool of yourself for awhile. Would Jimmie be willing to go through THAT?
 
Snappy D said:
I hope he is a true throwback and races into his 50's. Harv just keeps getting better. But when the dropoff happens and it will because it happened to all of em..... its steep.
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No one has ever been competitive past 50. Mark Martin's 2009 season was the oldest anyone's ever been and was a serious contender. His contract runs through 2021, the year he's 45, so I'm guessing Harv will see if he's still got it then and decide if he wants one last extension.
 
Joker said:
No one has ever been competitive past 50. Mark Martin's 2009 season was the oldest anyone's ever been and was a serious contender. His contract runs through 2021, the year he's 45, so I'm guessing Harv will see if he's still got it then and decide if he wants one last extension.
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Harry Gant. Mark Martin. The list is short, but I don’t know if Harv will hang it up when he’s still contending. Guess we’ll find out during next year
 
Formerjackman said:
The problem is, exactly WHO is looking for a 45 year old driver with little to no experience in that form of racing, 7 time Cup champion or not? Even in sportscar racing, any kind of gig other than a one-off would be tough to find unless you bring money, and who knows if that's something Jimmie is willing to do. If Jimmie stays loyal to GM, the opportunities there are even fewer. Jimmie could go dirt racing, but it's dangerous and he no experience there. Kenny Wallace talked on Dale Jr's podcast about how difficult of a transition that is, and how you will make a fool of yourself for awhile. Would Jimmie be willing to go through THAT?
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Well I’d be surprised if he ran Dirt Cars to be honest. I envisioned him running some IMSA races, Indy Car road courses (said he wanted to try it)and maybe some Xfinity for Jr Motorsports at places he’s never raced at in the Cup schedule.
 
Dale SR was 49 and coming off a near-miss championship season when he was killed. I think Bobby Allison was 51 when he got hurt and could still wins races.
 
Snappy D said:
Harry Gant. Mark Martin. The list is short, but I don’t know if Harv will hang it up when he’s still contending. Guess we’ll find out during next year
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Gant holy cow, that's a name you don't hear often. Yeah he was 52 when he finished 4th and points and had a win, geez.
 
Formerjackman said:
Dale SR was 49 and coming off a near-miss championship season when he was killed. I think Bobby Allison was 51 when he got hurt and could still wins races.
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Allison was 49 his last full season, he was competitive though.
 
Snappy D said:
Well I’d be surprised if he ran Dirt Cars to be honest. I envisioned him running some IMSA races, Indy Car road courses (said he wanted to try it)and maybe some Xfinity for Jr Motorsports at places he’s never raced at in the Cup schedule.
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No, I don't think it would be dirt, either, it's just that that has about the lowest threshold of entry. Once again though, I ask the question of OK, Indy cars or Sportscars, but for WHO? The rides are fewer and harder to come by than they were, and most of the extra guys that come in for the endurance races now are expected to be on par with the regular drivers on speed. Xfinity is a real possibility, but when Chad Knaus tells the world that you did and still do suck in an Xfinity car, you have to wonder. If anything, those cars suit his driving style even LESS than the current Cup car.
 
Imagine a decade ago if you'd said both Kurt Busch and Ryan Newman would outlast Jimmie Johnson.
 
StandOnIt said:
He said the same thing last year FWIW. I think he will get a better car to give it a shot. I'm optimistic that the Chevy's will be more competitive across the board. His little girls are darling.


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That new car.....very interesting......freezing expenditures.......:booya:
 
Joker said:
Imagine a decade ago if you'd said both Kurt Busch and Ryan Newman would outlast Jimmie Johnson.
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Well, journeymen usually do outlast superstars. Kurt has superstar talent, but his career didn't play out that way, mostly due his own demons. Newman is a damn solid driver that can win in just about anybody's car on a given day, and would be an upgrade for 75% of the cars out there, but it's hard to imagine him as a multi-time champion.
 
StandOnIt said:
they are using rice burner logic. 4 different cars in 5 years. :p
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Been through a few Fords too haven't we? Grills, etc......At what point does the "rice burner logic" become standard operating procedure if you are smart? To the point....It is interesting that NASCAR throws Chevy a bone this time when the talk is about freezing expenditures.....Kinda like Ford last year. That's fine. Look for Chevy to contend for the Manufacturers Title next year. It's kind of how it goes.....without bitching about wind tunnels and laser machines.
 
Formerjackman said:
The problem is, exactly WHO is looking for a 45 year old driver with little to no experience in that form of racing, 7 time Cup champion or not? Even in sportscar racing, any kind of gig other than a one-off would be tough to find unless you bring money, and who knows if that's something Jimmie is willing to do. If Jimmie stays loyal to GM, the opportunities there are even fewer. Jimmie could go dirt racing, but it's dangerous and he no experience there. Kenny Wallace talked on Dale Jr's podcast about how difficult of a transition that is, and how you will make a fool of yourself for awhile. Would Jimmie be willing to go through THAT?
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I thought this too. Realistically Jimmie will probably run a few one off races in mid pack equipment in another popular racing series, or he will just go back to his roots.

I love the idea of a Jeff Gordon, JJ, Stewart and Jr 24 hours at Daytona

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Formerjackman said:
Well, journeymen usually do outlast superstars. Kurt has superstar talent, but his career didn't play out that way, mostly due his own demons. Newman is a damn solid driver that can win in just about anybody's car on a given day, and would be an upgrade for 75% of the cars out there, but it's hard to imagine him as a multi-time champion.
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Idk, Newman is more like a journeyman than a solid driver imo. He strikes me as a "Ricky Stenhouse's ceiling" kind of talent.

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Joker said:
Imagine a decade ago if you'd said both Kurt Busch and Ryan Newman would outlast Jimmie Johnson.
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Do we know that Ryan is good for 2021?

They came in during the same season; one of them would likely run longer than tge other. Kurt's a bit more of a stretch.
 
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