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no particular reason on why I didn’t notice this before

The starting line up for Dover
15 Ford
17 Chevy
5 Toyota
 
28car said:
no particular reason on why I didn’t notice this before

The starting line up for Dover
15 Ford
17 Chevy
5 Toyota
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What are your realizing?
 
Confirmed, Toyota is the new dodge of nascar. So how much longer before they pull out? Then keep teasing about coming back.
 
joe h said:
Confirmed, Toyota is the new dodge of nascar. So how much longer before they pull out? Then keep teasing about coming back.
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...and then every now and again, posts like this. Seriously?
 
mack said:
And they have more to spend than all others that are involved.
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Cool. Throwback post day! Love it! Let's go with the Japanese manufacturer has no place in this sport crap! #Merica
 
They had to buy Gibbs after all their other teams went bankrupt and ran for the hills. Couldn't build an engine without a tapered spacer to save their lives.
 
Yeah, Toyota operate essentially as a factory team. Not unlike how a Team Penske is contracted to run Acura's factory sports car program. Obviously it works for them, as they've accomplished everything they wanted to do when they first entered NASCAR - both on the track and off. Is it dangerous? Maybe. If Chevy and Ford decided to do the same we'd have the stock car version of F1 with about fifteen or twenty cars in the field and the same three teams being the only ones who ever win. You can find a lot of teams beyond the big dogs running Roush-Yates, ECR, and Hendrick engines. A lot of them get chassis support as well. Are they as successful? No, but at least it's a model that's more viable for more teams. That's why we're all rooting for TRD to get more involved and expand with an LFR or someone else.
 
I wish Dodge would get back into Cup Series.

I'd also like to see Honda give it a go. They are so good in damn near every kind of racing they get involved in, I'd like to see what they could do here.

I like variety. And I don't buy the complaints about "Japanese manufacturers" and whatnot. These companies all manufacture so many cars in America nowadays they might as well count as American.
 
I would like to see Dodge rejoin, and maybe Nissan. Nobody else makes sense. Honda/VW/etc don't make a fullsize truck
 
FLRacingFan said:
Yeah, Toyota operate essentially as a factory team. Not unlike how a Team Penske is contracted to run Acura's factory sports car program. Obviously it works for them, as they've accomplished everything they wanted to do when they first entered NASCAR - both on the track and off. Is it dangerous? Maybe. If Chevy and Ford decided to do the same we'd have the stock car version of F1 with about fifteen or twenty cars in the field and the same three teams being the only ones who ever win. You can find a lot of teams beyond the big dogs running Roush-Yates, ECR, and Hendrick engines. A lot of them get chassis support as well. Are they as successful? No, but at least it's a model that's more viable for more teams. That's why we're all rooting for TRD to get more involved and expand with an LFR or someone else.
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About the factory team thing....TRD has a budget (just like any builder) and answers to Toyota North America....and Toyota North America answers to Japan. TRD doesn't not have unlimited resources as many who hated them from the beginning like to believe. TRD's intention was to have a presence very much like Chevy and Ford, but we had that little recession in 2008, and that changed everything. JGR turned to TRD to build their motors, and TRD was essentially building everything for MWR. This JGR as the mothership and alliance(s) deal was not the intention.

I think that we have 15 or 20 viable cars now, and the rest are field fillers anyway, so if Chevy and Ford went the way of TRD (Ford is getting closer if not there), I don't think it would change much. TRD has an eight car capacity--that's all you will get from them. I believe that LFR will expand to two cars, and then TRD will add another team....one that builds its own chassis would be sweet.
 
2 Sweet said:
I would like to see Dodge rejoin, and maybe Nissan. Nobody else makes sense. Honda/VW/etc don't make a fullsize truck
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Whoever comes needs to come to stay and invest IMO.
 
mack said:
Where did I say Toyota shouldn't be in Cup? Youre very sensitive, and jump to conclusions.
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The argument that Toyota outspends everybody is crap, and the horror of a Japanese manufacturer went hand in hand with that BS early in Toyota's entry. Hence, the reference to a throwback.
 
Revman said:
The argument that Toyota outspends everybody is crap, and the horror of a Japanese manufacturer went hand in hand with that BS early in Toyota's entry. Hence, the reference to a throwback.
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:rolleyes::rolleyes::confused:
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machinistman3 said:
So as we have always known money buys speed.
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and now we have a thinly veiled factory team in Nascar who only participated with 5 cars. Nothing against the rules, but I and others aren't jumping up in down about it like some are. I hope the others don't follow suit myself. One F-1 series is enough, and Indycar isn't too far behind.
 
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