BamaFan
Lets Go Racin
YES
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ramfan9
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Don't you know? It's Jr so the answe is YES. He can do whatever he wants and it's fine. I am so tired of how every time he takes the lead in a race we have to pan out to see the audience reaction. If you have ever been to a race the reaction is similar for EVERY lead change.
BamaFan
Lets Go Racin
Been to races for years( since the mid 60's) , And there is and was no reaction like when Dale Sr., Gordon, Petty, Pearson, Wallace and a handful of others took the lead or made a great pass.Its that way because more people like them.
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ramfan9
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That's your experience. In races I have been to there is always people standing and cherring and clapping during lead changes. Go back and look at when Kasey was battling Kenseth at Atlanta... you could hear the crowd in the background when Kasey was passing him but they did not pan to the crownd since it was not JR. There is no need to pan to the crowd like this....we all get it. Jr is popular and has some of the LOUDEST fans. That does not mean that there is not a SIMILAR level of excitment for other drivers out there.
BamaFan
Lets Go Racin
sounds a bit like jealousy to me,everybody wants their driver to be liked, unfortunately you can't force people to like you.
But hey thats just my opinion and my experience!!
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ramfan9
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Jealousy? Please. There is a BIG difference jealousy and annoyance. I don't care how man people like Jr. I just don't like the way it is shoved down your throat every time he does something right. I also could not care less about how many people like Kasey. The whole point is that his accamplishments are on par with Jr's and Jr never has to worry about losing his ride and Kasey seems to be on the hotseat and why? Because people like him and these same people would be calling for his head if his name was not Earnhardt. All the people who are OK with that must be OK when the boss's son gets promated at work even though there are more deserving candidates.
BamaFan
Lets Go Racin
"Because people like him and these same people would be calling for his head if his name was not Earnhardt. All the people who are OK with that must be OK when the boss's son gets promated at work even though there are more deserving candidates."
Envy, Jealousy, Middle school problems.
Not gonna win this one!
Have a nice day
Envy, Jealousy, Middle school problems.
Not gonna win this one!
Have a nice day
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ramfan9
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"Because people like him and these same people would be calling for his head if his name was not Earnhardt. All the people who are OK with that must be OK when the boss's son gets promated at work even though there are more deserving candidates."
Envy, Jealousy, Middle school problems.
Not gonna win this one!
Have a nice day
LOL.....you can call it whatever you want...does not make it true. Also, I am not trying to "win" anything. Now YOU can have a nice day.
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Not gonna win this one!
Have a nice day
It's all good, fellas. I'll take the win, and I hope you both have a nice day.
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ramfan9
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It's all good, fellas. I'll take the win, and I hope you both have a nice day.
LMFAO! Yes yuo can take the imaginary win and prize that does not exist.....you enjoy that and don't spend it all in one place my friend.
KahneFan
Team Owner
I'm so mad that Jr gets more cheers at a race than Kasey!!!
And I didn't win the imaginary prize! I always win!!!
And I didn't win the imaginary prize! I always win!!!
dpkimmel2001
Team Owner
You guys need to calm down. Those Jr. cheers are coming from me and my wife. She is really, really loud. There's no real reason to worry, fans love Kasey too. Just not as much.
dpkimmel2001
Team Owner
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ramfan9
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That's awesome.....it seems like Kasey is getting involved in more and more stuff like this. He seems as content with life in general as I have ever seen him.@CLTMotorSpdwy 2m2 minutes ago
.@kaseykahne hard at work helping build@hfhclt house in Fan Zone this afternoon
StandOnIt
Farm Truck
Kahne was fastest in the first round 1 of qualifying, set a track record...gets interviewed, says the car was too tight, going to have them loosen it up..didn't make the final 12 after his adjustment. Went from 1st fastest to 19th? Dale Jarrett said he couldn't believe he would loosen the car up at Charlotte, it kills your speed. That's one of his two big problems IMO, screws up the adjustments, and #2 has to pit pit pit chasing the setup. Jus Sayin
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Maybe he should just drive it.
KahneFan
Team Owner
Didn't know Kasey doubles as a crew chief too and makes his own adjustments?
StandOnIt
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I understand you have to be good at denial, and making excuses, this wasn't posted for the one horse pony's fanatics, but for others who were wondering the same thing I was. Erratic up and down driving for years. When he got to Hendrick where the cars are pretty close to use for benchmarks against each other, he sticks out like a sore thumb. It isn't the car, it is the driver screwing the car up.
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This particular adjustment was all Kahne's though.
I think he got nervous and didn't know what to say so he just neviously said he wanted the car loosen up. Then proceeded to plug the wrong sponsor in.
Kahne lives in the clouds. I dont know what's wrong with him.
Kiante
Team Owner
He will be fine on race day. He's won at Charlotte four times, I'd say Kasey is a 1.5 specialist one of the best in the field with an average finish of 8th. Thats pretty damn good, he will be a threat regardless come race day. I think no one ever denied that he can drive, but its the inconsistency that is bothersome. Yeah, a lot of JR fans (not even on this forum) shoves his accomplishments down throats of other fans and that is what annoys people, not necessarily JR himself as his rabid fans. I like both, but to constantly bring JR up is a bit premature. Yeah, his first three years were mediocre at best. Yet, racing is all about "What have you done for me lately."
KK fans keep your heads up, its a long race on Saturday.
KK fans keep your heads up, its a long race on Saturday.
BamaFan
Lets Go Racin
Well said and agreed, One other point you could add to it is Fans like myself that don't throw Jr. name around hate it when other fans do.
My driver this and My driver that and hes better than JR. but Jr. gets all the attention, blah blah blah.
I learned along time ago that those people like to bring others down to make them feel better about themselves.
Kasey has talent I have no clue why he doesn't perform better .
of course you could say this about many drivers as Nascar has many talented drivers in their ranks.
StandOnIt
Farm Truck
Well I did throw JR's name out there but it got all screwed up. Long version, was that Kahne and pretty much many of the other drivers have to perform well and consistently to keep their jobs. A very small number of drivers, Jr being one of them, because of their popularity, daddy's, or a loyal sponsor's money don't have the heat turned up as high. Hendrick is in an enviable position in that he has more talent than he has cars to put them in. So unless Jr starts going cup with JR motorsport, or Jeff retires real soon, Kasey is in the hot seat. In my opinion anyway. Would another team want Kahne if he did get squeezed out. Hail yeah he would find another seat.
Can I just say to anyone who says Kasey isn't aggressive to watch the last restart from Saturday he made some strong moves. Driving it in and almost knocking Hamlin up the hill, which probably set off the Hamlin Keselowski thing.
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ramfan9
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I actually thought Hamlin ruined Kasey's night buy running him down the track and killing his momentum. I know it's the last restart and all but I thought that was uncalled for. It's frustrating that Kasey is on the bubble again.....if not for the tire issue at Kansas they would be in great shape. Oh well though...everyone has had some bad luck. I would be confident in his chances anywhere but a plate race. With Kasey it's not a question of IF he will be in the wreck...it's WHEN.
FenderBumper
The "good old days" ??
Did Kasey push Brad into Hammy?
when he finishes them he finishes well has top 5s at both daytona and Dega
That was Brad's fault. Brad gave Hamlin a little nudge in turn 1, which got him loose and sent him down the track towards Kasey.
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ramfan9
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you may be right...I did not get a great look at it...all I saw was Kasey get shoved below the white line.
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ramfan9
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I don't agree with that...Kasey is in 8th right now so all he and anyone else in the top 8 have to do is finish better then the guys behind them basically. In Kasey's case I am sure he will get caught up in some mess so it likely won't happen. Either way though, with the season he has had I am happy with the result of almost making the eliminator round and getting at least one win. If he does make it that will be a bonus. I would also like to point out to all that hated on Kasey all year how ironic it will be if Jr and Johnson get eliminated and he does not. Johnson has actually not ran much better than Kasey. He had one hot streak earlier in the year. Jr. has been inconsistent now also. If you take out the resurgent year Gordon has had which no one could have predicted HMS has been kind of inconsistent as a whole. They have the wins yes but it seems like all 4 of them have had their struggles at times also except Gordon.
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ramfan9
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I am gonna just go ahead and say that I felt like HMS did HORRIBLE as a whole yesterday working together and that is why 3 of their drivers got eliminated. It seemed like no one had the intention of working with anyone else or trying to help anyone either. I was particualary frustrated with Jr who had no intention of helping Kasey and actually hung Kasey out to dry once and got himself hung out trying to pass Kasey when Kasey was leading or running in the top 3. And Gordon just rode around in the back not helping anyone. Now I get it - Gordon was just trying to stay out of traouble to advance and Jr and Johnson's only shots were to win but you would think they would have worked together. If they could have set it up so Kasey was pushing one of them to the victory they would still be 3 HMS cars alive instead of just one.
ToyYoda
Team Owner
Has there ever been a time when all four Hendrick teams were championship caliber all at once? Seems like they always have one team that's off.
Unfortunately it's Kasey's turn in the HMS red-headed stepchild car.
Unfortunately it's Kasey's turn in the HMS red-headed stepchild car.
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ramfan9
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LOL.....I agree with that to a point but none of them except for Gordon are having great years. This is probablly Johnson's worst year and Jr has become inconsistent after a fast start. Regardless of all those issues though they could still be in the Chase if they worked together better.
Yeah they could of worked together, and on the second to last restart I feel like Johnson made Kasey fall back as far as he did. Kasey did himself no favors losing 4 spots on the last lap from turn 4 to the line though. Frustrating when he finally has a day at Talladega where he runs up front and leads laps and stays out of trouble that he gets knocked out.
I have to wonder do we see a crew chief shake up for next year at least for the 5?
I have to wonder do we see a crew chief shake up for next year at least for the 5?
KahneFan
Team Owner
Looked like to me Ambrose got in the back of him going through the tri-oval and he lost at least 4 or 5 spots coming to the finish. Which lead to him getting knocked out of the chase. He ran really well and didn't get in a wreck, which is frustrating since he didn't make it into the top 8.
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ramfan9
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Kasey's Twitter page is interesting this week. Tweet from Kelly Earnhardt talking about how she got to know more about the Kahne family and also a Tweet from Kasey about meeting with Valvoline......Maybe I am reading too much into this but it makes me wonder if Chase is headed to the 5 in 2016 and they are exploring the idea of Kasey running a full time Nationwide car for a year or two if Jeff has not decided to retire. I have said all along that I believe Kasey is in HMS's future plans regardless of Chase and if he were to lose his ride I don't feel it's based on performance but more due to pressure that Chase's sponsor would want him in Cup. I would personally rather see Kasey run Nationwide for a year for a champiionship and be ready for the 24 when Jeff hangs it up then see him go spend the remainder of his career running for a back marker team. There are no other good seats that will be open unless Penske adds a third car but it seems Ryan Blaney could be tabbed for that.
I guess this is just me thinking out loud. I could picture Rick going to Kasey and laying it out for him and saying "I want to keep you, but may not have a ride for a year or so...how about Nationwide for a year?" and giving Kasey the option.
I do however work with a guy from North Carolina that used to be heavily involved with racing when he lived there and he knows people that work for difefrent NASCAR teams and the rumor he is hearing from them now is Chase to 5 in 2016 and Kasey to the 10. If that were true I'd be thrilled with that since it's essentially still HMS.....I just can't picture them letting Danica go...too much of a cash cow.
I guess this is just me thinking out loud. I could picture Rick going to Kasey and laying it out for him and saying "I want to keep you, but may not have a ride for a year or so...how about Nationwide for a year?" and giving Kasey the option.
I do however work with a guy from North Carolina that used to be heavily involved with racing when he lived there and he knows people that work for difefrent NASCAR teams and the rumor he is hearing from them now is Chase to 5 in 2016 and Kasey to the 10. If that were true I'd be thrilled with that since it's essentially still HMS.....I just can't picture them letting Danica go...too much of a cash cow.
Naitch
NASCAR needs a driver's union
You might be able to convince GoDaddy to sponsor Kasey in a Cup ride and Danica in a Nationwide ride. Does GoDaddy really lose much if Danica is in Nationwide and not Cup?
KahneFan
Team Owner
I'd be happy to see him at SHR
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ramfan9
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I have always assumed there is far more money in Cup.....but it also costs more to sponsor a Cup car so who really knows how it's determined what would be more proftiable.