Kyle Busch shows off his maturity again

Hey guys, first time poster here...

KyBu is an ass but I definitely agree with him on this one. I've never liked Newman, the way he drives or acts off the track. I think it was at Texas a while back he was 2 laps down holding up Jimmy who going for the win. Also does anyone remember the allegations that he assaulted JP Montoya I believe at Richmond a couple years back. He just has this arrogance to him, I've never liked. How many times has he spouted off about NASCAR needs to do a better job of this or that and "I'm an engineer and a driver so everyone should listen to me" seems to be his perrogative.

I just never thought he was that good in the first place, sure he's great in qualifying trim no one can take that away. However he had half his career wins in one great season and I could be wrong but weren't a bunch of them fuel mileage wins? I have no problem with a guy racing hard, but I think Newman lacks the professional courtesy that many others employ. I suspect that KyBu's comments are the sentiments of most drivers in the Cup garage.
 
FenderBumper said:
If Gibbs is smart, they will start talking to Newman about driving a 4th car next year so he'll start blocking for their drivers instead of blocking for Tony. How fun would it be to see Newman blocking Tony during the chase? After the season is over they can call Tony to get suggestions on some good excuses for why he won't be with the team next year.
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"The Team Enforcer" Haha I like it. Kinda like the big goon in hockey and Roller Derby.
 
Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if KuBu went to RCR and Newman to Furniture Row
 
AndyMarquisLive said:
I hope all this goes down at Bristol or Martinsville. Ryan Newman genuinely does not give a ****. And now he's got absolutely nothing to lose. Kyle better watch his ass. He just mouthed himself in to something his ass can't drive himself out of.
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I'll be @ both races and I'll be looking forward to it.
 
ChexOrWrex said:
Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if KuBu went to RCR and Newman to Furniture Row
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I feel Newman will end up at RCR simply because he will be easy to sell to a sponsor as opposed to Kurt.
Although Kyle is a jerk he didn't say anything different than what goes on around here everyday, just a bigger audience.
 
Kurt is not as hard to sell sponsorship for as you'd think. Well, let me preface that with saying EVERY team is struggling to find big sponsors/funding. But Kurt's case isn't any more uphill than most of the other drivers. There's plenty of interest in Kurt. But, the reason his car always says "Furniture Row" is because the team owner wants it to say "Furniture Row." He's only recently expressed interest in listening to other potential primary deals. If Kurt were to go to another team, they'd find sponsors just as quickly (or not quickly) as if any other A-list driver went there. But this idea that Kurt is unsponsorable is silly. He's got a sponsor spending more than $20m on him right now as I type.

Also, doesn't matter what kind of sponsor Kurt can or can't get - he will not be at RCR unless Barney Visser gives Richard the green light to hire him.
 
I totally agree with this, however what would prevent Kurt from exercising his rights as a free agent and going to sign with RCR next year? I thought I heard that there's a gentlemen's agreement in place for RCR to not pursue him but he's only signed for 1 year so what's to stop him from going there? Considering how desperate Childress might be for a top notch driver to fill Harvick's seat, I see Kurt to RCR as a very likely scenario, just my opinion though.
 
I can see Jack Roush cutting cousin Carl loose and hiring KuBu to drive the 99. I can even see Roger Penske firing Brad K. and placing KuBu in that ride. I can also see the Arizona PBA and Joe Arpaio coming on board with a full sponsorship for KuBu.

Just kidding....

If I was a team owner, I wouldn't go near him.
 
3wideinturn1 said:
I totally agree with this, however what would prevent Kurt from exercising his rights as a free agent and going to sign with RCR next year? I thought I heard that there's a gentlemen's agreement in place for RCR to not pursue him but he's only signed for 1 year so what's to stop him from going there? Considering how desperate Childress might be for a top notch driver to fill Harvick's seat, I see Kurt to RCR as a very likely scenario, just my opinion though.
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What's stopping Kurt from exercising his right as a free agent, and pursuing other options, including RCR? Nothing. He'll likely do that.

What's stopping RCR from actually hiring Kurt? The millions they make from having Furniture Row Racing as a client. At the end of the day, Richard will put more money in his pocket selling parts to FRR than he will having Kurt in the 29, even if he found a full season sponsor.

Like I said...it is entirely possible Kurt ends up there - but only with mutual consent between team owners. It should also be mentioned that Kurt is very happy at FRR, and FRR is very happy with Kurt. If things don't work out, it's over $$.
 
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Allenbaba said:
What's stopping Kurt from exercising his right as a free agent, and pursuing other options, including RCR? Nothing. He'll likely do that.

What's stopping RCR from actually hiring Kurt? The millions they make from having Furniture Row Racing as a client. At the end of the day, Richard will put more money in his pocket selling parts to FRR than he will having Kurt in the 29, even if he found a full season sponsor.

Like I said...it is entirely possible Kurt ends up there - but only with mutual consent between team owners. It should also be mentioned that Kurt is very happy at FRR, and FRR is very happy with Kurt. If things don't work out, it's over $$.
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Good point about the client relationship between RCR and FRR. In my opinion Kurt and the 78 FRR team have actually been outperforming the RCR cars, they just haven't been able to get the finishes they deserved. I think Kurt is a better fit with FRR because he seems to have developed some real good chemistry with Todd Berrier and they have an owner who doesn't need to appease large corporate sponsers either, not that Kurt has been a problem this year anyways. Also I get the feeling that he's looking for a payday with a new contract that's got lots of term and dollars on it and I'm not sure FRR will be able to compete with the bigger teams on that front. I've just been impressed since the first day Kurt got into the 78 car, consistently at the top of the speed charts in practice, running up front, knocking down top 5's, top 10's, the only thing missing is that win. If they finished where they ran, Kurt would be in the chase comfortably right now.
 
3wideinturn1 said:
Hey guys, first time poster here...

KyBu is an ass but I definitely agree with him on this one. I've never liked Newman, the way he drives or acts off the track. I think it was at Texas a while back he was 2 laps down holding up Jimmy who going for the win. Also does anyone remember the allegations that he assaulted JP Montoya I believe at Richmond a couple years back. He just has this arrogance to him, I've never liked. How many times has he spouted off about NASCAR needs to do a better job of this or that and "I'm an engineer and a driver so everyone should listen to me" seems to be his perrogative.

I just never thought he was that good in the first place, sure he's great in qualifying trim no one can take that away. However he had half his career wins in one great season and I could be wrong but weren't a bunch of them fuel mileage wins? I have no problem with a guy racing hard, but I think Newman lacks the professional courtesy that many others employ. I suspect that KyBu's comments are the sentiments of most drivers in the Cup garage.
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Welcome. Your style and opinions are remarkably similar to a another member here:) Have fun.
 
Kurt can drive period!! One of the best IMO. I say that alone and the tiny fact he has cleaned up the off the track stuff so far will land him in a good ride with a good contract.
 
3wideinturn1 said:
I totally agree with this, however what would prevent Kurt from exercising his rights as a free agent and going to sign with RCR next year? I thought I heard that there's a gentlemen's agreement in place for RCR to not pursue him but he's only signed for 1 year so what's to stop him from going there? Considering how desperate Childress might be for a top notch driver to fill Harvick's seat, I see Kurt to RCR as a very likely scenario, just my opinion though.
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driver aren't free agents and won't be unless Nascar starts selling "franchises" like stick and ball. I think it is more complicated than that if you think about it. sponsors, owners, drivers ,oh my.
 
StandOnIt said:
driver aren't free agents and won't be unless Nascar starts selling "franchises" like stick and ball. I think it is more complicated than that if you think about it. sponsors, owners, drivers ,oh my.
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It was my understanding that drivers sign contracts to drive for a specific team for a set term and salary and either the driver or team signs a sponsor to fund said team. Once that contractual obligation is fulfilled then the driver would be free to seek out other employment opportunities just like any other private contractor. I could be wrong and my utmost apologies if I am because admittedly I don't know the dynamic between drivers/teams/sponsors behind the scenes. I just thought it worked like private contracting and once the contract was up, a driver would be a "free agent" so to speak and be able to go anywhere they could get a deal done. Again I could be completely wrong, I just thought that's how it worked.
 
3wideinturn1 said:
It was my understanding that drivers sign contracts to drive for a specific team for a set term and salary and either the driver or team signs a sponsor to fund said team. Once that contractual obligation is fulfilled then the driver would be free to seek out other employment opportunities just like any other private contractor. I could be wrong and my utmost apologies if I am because admittedly I don't know the dynamic between drivers/teams/sponsors behind the scenes. I just thought it worked like private contracting and once the contract was up, a driver would be a "free agent" so to speak and be able to go anywhere they could get a deal done. Again I could be completely wrong, I just thought that's how it worked.
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I think what he means is it isn't a standard FA like you see in other stick & ball sports. Drivers don't have a union, and can really sign any future contract they want with whoever they want. Like Kurt did years ago with Penske and Harvick has done with SHR. Both drivers had a year left on their contract when they signed to drive with their future teams. You don't see that in S&B sports, because it is down right illegal. Drivers can talk to any team they want to while still under contract with their current employer.
 
I don't think Kurt has a contract. I think his last two rides have been "an agreement".
 
FLRacingFan said:
I don't understand the Newman bashing. He has more Top 10s this year than his SHR teammates have combined and actually is tied for the ninth most for the year.
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Apparently , this week , we are in favour of drivers who just ride around . Drivers who try too hard , hog the track and race other competitors too hard are out . Drivers who move over and wave others by with a curtsey are in . Who knew?:rolleyes:
 
yep, and Stewart did it with Gibbs. Drivers can do what they want if they are good enough. Kurt hasn't had a contract, some teams get a ringer for road courses, on and on. Sponsors can play a role..Canadian tire was on Ron Fellows car, Hendrick was on Saids car for the road course
 
StandOnIt said:
driver aren't free agents and won't be unless Nascar starts selling "franchises" like stick and ball. I think it is more complicated than that if you think about it. sponsors, owners, drivers ,oh my.
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Yep ....ask Brian Vickers and MWR ....they can only wait for a sponsor to give them a go ahead .
 
FLRacingFan said:
I don't understand the Newman bashing. He has more Top 10s this year than his SHR teammates have combined and actually is tied for the ninth most for the year.
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I don't know what page you and Ted are on, but he was in 5th after the first race and hasn't been close to top ten in driver standings after the first race. Check it out for yourself...last column on the right.

http://racing-reference.info/drivdet/newmary01/2013/W
 
StandOnIt said:
I don't know what page you and Ted are on, but he was in 5th after the first race and hasn't been close to top ten in driver standings after the first race. Check it out for yourself...last column on the right.

http://racing-reference.info/drivdet/newmary01/2013/W
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I know he's not doing too well in points. I mean that he's tied for the ninth-most Top 10 finishes this year with eight (which is more than Tony and Danica have combined).
 
FLRacingFan said:
I know he's not doing too well in points. I mean that he's tied for the ninth-most Top 10 finishes this year with eight (which is more than Tony and Danica have combined).
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Newman has 7 top tens, 1 top 5? Tony has 4 top 5's with a win? Who's chain you pullin?
 
It's funny that Kyle has a problem with drivers blocking. Didn't Harvick park Kyle at Homestead a few years back because Kyle spent countless laps blocking him to protect Denny Hamlin?
 
ted@economy said:
You're wastin your breath . Give it up before you end up on stress leave .:D
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nah, you two are like little gnats, ya find little meaningless stuff to try to confuse the issue, when I have the time, it is fun entertainment..as long as you don't confuse them with the facts.
 
Kyle Busch said on Twitter his remarks about Newman's livelihood were out of line.


I want to clarify that I was answering what I felt was two separate questions asked to me at the same time in an interview following the race in Loudon. The first was about how fast Kurt was and the second was how I felt about Ryan Newman blaming me for him getting wrecked.

First I answered the Kurt part. He was fast... Great to see them running well... Was a shame to see him crashed... Nowhere there did I place blame on who wrecked who. I didn't see it and I still haven't seen it.

My second answer came from being upset over an incident I had with RN on the track during the race. I answered it in the same response, but it was intended as a completely separate answer.

I was upset because I felt RN raced me poorly, making contact and causing damage to my RF fender that affected the handling on my racecar. This isn't the first time that I've been raced poorly by RN either, which added to my frustration. All this built up and allowed my emotions to spill over for how I felt. I'm not sorry for how I feel in those moments, but could have expressed it better and certainly my comments about someone's livelihood went too far.
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http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1rlda53

Honestly, I wish these cars would be fixed in a way where minor contact doesn't completely take drivers out of contention. And that goes on NASCAR. They've completely taken the "hard racing" aspect out of the sport.
 
AndyMarquisLive said:
Kyle Busch said on Twitter his remarks about Newman's livelihood were out of line.




http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1rlda53

Honestly, I wish these cars would be fixed in a way where minor contact doesn't completely take drivers out of contention. And that goes on NASCAR. They've completely taken the "hard racing" aspect out of the sport.
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That makes more sense. There was a restart where Kyle bumped Newman, who was backpedaling on older tires, in 4 and then Newman rubbed him back when they got alongside each other on the straightaway. Would've been no problem twenty years ago but I see his point.
 
FLRacingFan said:
That makes more sense. There was a restart where Kyle bumped Newman, who was backpedaling on older tires, in 4 and then Newman rubbed him back when they got alongside each other on the straightaway. Would've been no problem twenty years ago but I see his point.
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The problem with Kyle is he races people like an a**hole but can't take it when they race him the same way. And, honestly, most of the time Kyle gets mad at another driver for an incident, it's his own fault... kind of like the numerous times he's tried his famous divebomb slidejob and, when he put himself in the wall doing it, he gets mad at the other driver for not slamming their brakes to let his majesty in and then goes and walls them.
 
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