Kyle Busch's decision to stop before the race ended

Discussion in 'NASCAR chat' started by Charlie Spencer, Sep 30, 2019.

  1. Charlie Spencer

    Charlie Spencer Short tracks and road courses rule.

    Was Kyle right or wrong to drive to the garage while the race was red flagged? Does anyone know what conversations Kyle had with the team on the subject?

    From the stands, while everyone else was stopped under red, I watched Kyle back up from turn 2 back to the middle of turn 1. I figured maybe he just wanted to wait in the shade. He drove forward like he was going to enter pit road from the wrong end, but stopped after just a few feet. He sat there for a few minutes, then entered pit road and went to the garage.

    Was this an understandable move by a team with nothing to gain, or failure to give sponsors their money's worth, or just overall poor sportsmanship to quit early? Discuss; use back of page if necessary.
  2. DIDIT

    DIDIT Old School Fan

    Need to more why he pulled in. He is a professional race car driver.
  3. Ventisca

    Ventisca Team Owner

  4. Greg

    Greg 2014 RF YAHOO CHAMP Your leader

    Park the thing if laps down and if it is impossibile to gain positions based on laps remaining.
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  5. kyle18fan

    kyle18fan Proud member of Rowdy Nation Contributor

    Seems like a legit reason to me :idunno: or, he could have stayed out there and made a caution or two
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  6. Ford 222

    Ford 222 Team Owner

    Didn’t watch the race so when I read the initial post I just thought “quitter” but can’t argue with the above reasons so I’d say good call.
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  7. Formerjackman

    Formerjackman Team Owner

    Probably a legitimate call for the right reasons, BUT, when you're Kyle Busch, you aren't going to get much benefit of the doubt. He made that bed and he has to lay in it. With a lot of other drivers, it wouldn't have even raised an eyebrow.
  8. JohnHill

    JohnHill member of Who Dat Nation

    I really don’t see anything wrong with what he did.
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  9. kyle18fan

    kyle18fan Proud member of Rowdy Nation Contributor

    Somebody will be along shortly to explain that what he did was bad bad bad :booya:
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  10. Team Penske

    Team Penske Team Owner

    I will. :D
    Many a driver has stayed on track with a wounded car. As long as they are not hampering other cars, I believe they have an obligation to sponsors and driver fans.
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  11. Fordracing7

    Fordracing7 2018 Pick em Champion

    I don't blame him at all, his car was messed up and there was nothing to gain. Might as well shower up and go hang out with Brexton.
  12. kyle18fan

    kyle18fan Proud member of Rowdy Nation Contributor

    Thank you sir :salute:
  13. Charlie Spencer

    Charlie Spencer Short tracks and road courses rule.

    And there's the info I didn't have. Thanks.
  14. Joker

    Joker #1 Harvick Fan

    Given the context his car was totaled, then yeah he did the right thing.

    (But he's still a poopy head)
  15. Charlie Spencer

    Charlie Spencer Short tracks and road courses rule.

    While many have stayed out, it's usually with the hope someone else will drop out and can eventually be passed. Kyle wasn't going to pass anyone with 8 laps left to run.

    I don't have any feeling one way or the other. I just wanted to get the subject out of the 'Rate the race' thread.
  16. Charlie Spencer

    Charlie Spencer Short tracks and road courses rule.

  17. Mike Crayne

    Mike Crayne Team Owner

    If you can no longer gain or lose positions and you have damage you should be required to park the car. To many times damaged cars have affected the end of race.
  18. kyle18fan

    kyle18fan Proud member of Rowdy Nation Contributor

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ post of the year material ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    I only wish I could like the post a few thousand times
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    MAGICMILER Bristol Baby

    Kyle is the point leader. That is all that matters.
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  20. Revman

    Revman I'm just here so I don't get fined.

    I am disappointed. Nobody is going to bring up that he left the track when he was with Hendrick, and when the car was ready, he wasn't to be found? This is extremely disappointing to me. I expect more from his board.
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  21. Fordracing7

    Fordracing7 2018 Pick em Champion

    We all like Kyle now where have you been? Lol
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  22. sdj

    sdj Just a race fan

    :lol2: I watched the race and until now did not even know he had left the track before the race was over! :lol2:

    When forced to endure him via broadcast is one thing, other than that, I do not care where he is on or off the track.:idunno:
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  23. kyle18fan

    kyle18fan Proud member of Rowdy Nation Contributor

  24. StandOnIt

    StandOnIt Farm Truck

    The track reporters breathed a sigh of relief that they didn't have to suffer thru yet another Kyle interview.
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  25. joe h

    joe h Team Owner

    I’m going to vote poor sport. Junior wanted to park his car at homestead, but his crew chief demanded he stay out there until the checker, personally I’m glad he did. It is just a bad look. If he had significant damage, preventing him from maintaining minimum speed, obviously park it. But if he is only looking for excuses to get off a hot track, **** him. Brads front tire was wobbling the entire race, but he still managed to hang in there. Seemed to me Busch was frustrated that he couldn’t navigate to the front, and instead of sitting in a hot car with the rest of his fellow competitors, decide to just park it. Not good, and this isn’t the first time he has refused to give a hundred percent.
  26. wi_racefan

    wi_racefan Team Owner

    I don't like it because plain and simple you were hired to do a job and you quit. If the car is capable of making minimum speed your job is to drive that car around the track and he didn't.
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  27. harkin

    harkin SoCal Race Fan

    If he had stayed out and been involved in a wreck while being lapped there would be many in here saying he should have parked it but immaturity and petulance blah blah blah.
  28. wi_racefan

    wi_racefan Team Owner

    If he becomes lap traffic on that course in 10 laps or whatever was left there's no way he was maintaining minimum speed. It takes roughly 82 seconds to make a lap, you'd have to be 8 seconds off the pace.

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  29. Turtle84

    Turtle84 gained a step

    Good decision, no need to sit in the sauna on a red flag and be dehydrated for next week, get a leg up on fitness for Dover. I'd argue he got extra sponsor exposure since they showed him standing there in his flatbill hazelnut gear for a good 15 seconds on a national broadcast. KB is one step ahead of the game.
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  30. Ventisca

    Ventisca Team Owner

    Oh please, R-F peeps -- lapped beat up car getting ready to throw parts on track, slide into a something, lay down oil or whatever else -- as I get ready to throw my diet coke at the TV! :D

    Get off the track -- no more back-marker Cautions, Montoya delays, or the grease-man yesterday forcing the red flag (which was the right call as NASCAR wasted all those other laps under Caution up to that point).
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  31. aunty dive

    aunty dive Team Owner

    Professionalism includes the ability to make intelligent decisions on the fly.

    This is a perfect example of that.
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  32. TexasRaceLady

    TexasRaceLady Plank Owner Contributor

    I had no problem with him pulling off. He couldn't gain anything by staying out.
    To be honest, I didn't even know he'd pulled off until after the race.
    No big deal.
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  33. ChexOrWrex

    ChexOrWrex Ya gotta wanna

    Hate the game not the player. Kyle is just doing what the points system allows him to do.
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  34. Charlie Spencer

    Charlie Spencer Short tracks and road courses rule.

    The rest of us are over it.
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  35. ReturnTrip

    ReturnTrip Team Owner

    That's the luxury he's earned by accumulating stage points, I suppose. These early rounds are more about the chaff than the wheat, sadly.
  36. Hawaii808

    Hawaii808 Team Owner

    Meanwhile at Bubba Wallace's house:

    Bubba: What's this? Some kinda smart a** sent me flowers? A card...hmmmm..."Hey Bubba, thanks for taking the heat off me. When you are ready to talk, let me tell you about coming to the Dark Side. Regards, KB".
  37. Charlie Spencer

    Charlie Spencer Short tracks and road courses rule.

    I'm watching the X race on tape. There were a few incidents of broken sway bars and mounts due to hitting the curbs. I wonder if Kyle ran over a turtle?
  38. Bucky Badger

    Bucky Badger Go Kyle Go

    I'm a KB fan, yea I like to see him on the track, Not worth it with a broken sway bar. You see countless cars through the year with damage...those cars can easily bring out 3 cautions because of numerous flat tires, or dropping debris on the track. He did the right thing not to hamper the end of the race
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  39. Team Penske

    Team Penske Team Owner

  40. jws926

    jws926 I need to think of something new for here

    There no reason for him stay out, there was nothing to gain by it.
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