Well, I questioned his judgement when a 7 time champ for team Chevy decided to go race a yota. Still scratching my head about that. Now this? Like people who buy car polish know who Jimmy Johnson is? If he was going to have a business a Chevy dealership would have made better sense.
Make money, and win races long term. I think we will see how patient he is willing to be when we see his driver line up next year.....
How's that Chevy thing working out for anybody other than Hendrick right now? Chevy gave him the finger.
Considering how well he is doing with the rice burners I can see why.
Oh yeah, that was pure Chevy dominance. To the dyno!!!!!! LMAO.
Oh no, you don't understand. Chevy found about 150 horsepower, and in the hands of the next Dale Earnhardt, they were unstoppable. I know these things because I listen to NASCAR Radio.
Again with THIS narrative? Jimmie turned down his chance to be right along JG at Hendrick, and then, after showing ZERO interest in being a team owner, and getting Chevy's blessing to drive a Honda Indy car, he buys into a team that happens to be a Chevy at the moment, knowing that the team was unlikely to get get a Chevy deal. That's all on HIM. Ironically enough, if he had just held tight for a couple years, they probably could've had a Chevy deal once Kaulig jumped ship. I have always been a firm believer that sometimes loyalty doesn't work out in the short term, but if you stick with it, it can pay long-term dividends. That's one reason I have so much respect for Rick and RC, and the Wood family. Those are people who never forgot who got them there in the first place.
That's bull****. **** talking a team/organization is one thing, but absolutely blowing smoke out your ass pretending to know what the hell you are talking about is another. Do some research.
No question WE were looking to expand....the why and how is where you are making **** up. Hell, David Wilson himself explained it on NASCAR Radio for the world to hear, but it's not consistent with your bull**** narrative, so you make stuff up.
How is that working out?
You are full of crap, but I still appreciate you kind of.
Let's save this.
Appreciate the post.....Reality isn't as exciting as the crap that gets slung around here, but that's okay. The saddest part is that literally EVERYTHING that Legacy is doing is calculated. Sponsors are re-signing.....people are coming--not leaving....a great story building, but big mouths around here that don't get it need to run the narrative in a different direction. WE have Toyota winning 70% of the races this year, and some who know better slobbering over the glory of a super speedway lotto winner. I love banter, but when we get to the point of stupidity, it gets old. Thank you for anchoring US back to where we should be.
Just be glad you aren't investing your money into Legacy, or you would be telling us how well YOUR Legacy car polish works to shine your car.
Facts? We don't need no stinking facts! Yes, that was an awesome interview with Jimmie explaining a lot....but ya know, THE NARRATIVE...... @StandOnIt will find a way to **** on anything.
I'm just a simple man who keeps track of the drivers standings and I have a low tolerance for people like yourself trying to blow smoke up everybody's asses.
Well, we are in year three of the Toyota experiment, when do the results come?
When the check to JGR clears
I'm just a passionate man who has no tolerance for people who make **** up to make others look bad.
But minimal improvement in results.
What JGR and 23xi do is irrelevant to Legacy's performance.
But you can do it on a regular basis if it has anything to do with any other manufacturer, especially HMS???
That is a good question. Stacking Pennies was great this week with Jimmie. He explained a lot so it's about whether or not you trust him. Per Jimmie.....early performance suffered because he chose the Tier 1 route.They started to get things sorted (while adding engineering talent at the same time) in year 2. This year--and this is both interesting and confusing), they have started to share information with JGR/23XI. Why is kind of a mystery to me, honestly. Jimmie wanted to go it on his own, and now is okay with working with JGR/23XI? Toyota is probably encouraging this, but I don't know. Regardless, per Jimmie, that information has created inconsistencies in set up directions and sims--kind of a domino effect.....so this is another transitional period--again per Jimmie. With all of that being said, I think that they are average at best behind the wheel with Erik, and probably needing more in the 42. Throughout this whole Toyota relationship, they have been adding people. I will give you this....I thought WE would be getting more from Legacy this year, but nobody seems upset or panicking....and the sponsors are still coming. I enjoy watching this grow. Takes me back to the first days in Cup when WE were struggling to make the shows, and WE were terrible. This is a very interesting story in my opinion.
No question the results are not there. No question. I disagree with your statement about JGR and 23XI given that Legacy is opening talking about a new relationship with them, and that it would be Toyota's wish that all teams would share everything (not realistic) for the greater good. There is inconsistency (maybe expected) everywhere in the organization right now. With that being said, if everything was perfect, you are left with Erik Jones and JHN. Are those guys top 10 in JGR/23XI cars? Erik....maybe. JHN....no. The third car will be interesting, and I wonder if there will be other driver changes. You get top 10 talent behind the wheel, and everything settles down in terms of personal.....then let's see what happens. Need to see something by the end of 2027 I would think before panic buttons are engaged. I think the lack of patience with Legacy is either about how fans are these days--win for me yesterday or I quit....or a lack of understanding about how this sport works. I was there in 2007 when MY Toyotas sucked. Those were not bad days, but the goals were certainly different. I had as much enjoyment with MY Toyotas then as I do now. Again the goals were different, but it is all relative. I am looking forward to seeing what happens with Legacy. I am very optimistic.
When shots are fired, I will fire back. It's part of the fun until some knuckleheads get personal. I swear to God, sports fans are so soft these days.
Me too. I couldn't figure out why Chevy didn't give him whatever he wanted....you know 7 championships is a pretty awesome thing for an OEM....but Chevy answers to The Felon, and The Felon was not willing to give Jimmie equal status IMO as a Tier 1....and you blab about the JGR tail wagging the Toyota dog.
Did you listen to the interview? HMS offered him ownership stake several times....
Ownership in the Chain Gang empire, right? Different from what Jimmie was looking for. I think The Felon wanted him to fall in line with Chadly and Jeffy. Do you have a different take one that?
He offered him ownership in his own company. Since when is it his obligation to help the competition? JGR isn't obligated to help Legacy, but you don't have a problem with that.
Thanks.
I agree with this 100%. Well said. I think the culture would be right for Kyle. In my opinion, this is the only option I can think of that doesn't humiliate Kyle....but I think there would be conditions....you cannot have his bull**** here. He has to be patient. Big asks of Kyle.
