NASCAR and the younger crowd

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ToyYoda said:
I don't think the new format is gonna last though, because a) Brian France can't leave the championship format alone, and b) it hasn't been the savior NASCAR thought it would be.
I can't say I'll mourn it, unless they come up with something even worse. B)
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NASCAR needs to give it a few years. Ratings will be worse next year than this year because of move to FS1 and NBCSN (well, except for the seven races moving from ESPN/TNT to NBC broadcast)... I hope NASCAR doesn't panic.
 
There are lots of ways NASCAR could appeal to the younger crowd. France won't do anything though, as he's milking the cash cow for all it's worth.
 
I think nascar is banking on my generation starting to have kids now & those parents who are racing fans, or even their grandparents, will introduce them to nascar.
 
ChexOrWrex said:
I think nascar is banking on my generation starting to have kids now & those parents who are racing fans, or even their grandparents, will introduce them to nascar.
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So basically the same strategy for gaining new fans they've had since 1948?
 
Racing endured before the steady growth of the 80s, 90s, the early 2000s and it will continue, and I am not a shareholder so I dont give a damn about Brians portfolio. If young people want it that will be great, but I hope Brian stops the stupid stuff. Enough bastardazation has occurred already, the biggest has been the explosion of cloned cookie cutters.

And who cares what some arrogant fools think about racing fans or the south. I dont follow racing to name drop or impress. It is just a fun hobby that doesnt need to be accredited. The disqusting lot that wants that, should be deprived, since the actual racing isnt paramount to them.

I may not live long enough to see them eventually replaced, I will just have to be satisfied knowing that Brian will die himself one day. I dont care if the next guy is Red, Black, Blue, or even genderless. I just hope the next CEO will be a racer at heart and not such a corporate prostitute.

It will not happen, so I will just hope I live long enough to see Brian die. No joke, he and Bruton have harmed racing imo.

Given the situation, it is probably better just to try and enjoy the racing in its current state and not worry about things we can not control.
 
Good luck getting the "gotta-have-it-now" crowd interested in cars.
When I was a kid it was a big score to go to the local pick-n-pull lot and find a Holley carburetor or some headers. We worked and saved our money to buy car parts. So we could go faster. We had our own tools. We could work on cars.
Kids nowadays do not know (or care) where the washer fluid goes. They save their money for the next version of Call Of Duty or Grand Theft Auto. They can build a computer (which really isn't difficult), we built motors and transmissions (which really wasn't difficult, either.)
It's just different times. Different interests. The only kids you see at racetracks these days are (basically) the grandkids of Petty, Pearson, Allison, DW, Sr., etc. fans.
I don't think there is an answer or a way to increase a future NASCAR fanbase.
 
Greg said:
Racing endured before the steady growth of the 80s, 90s, the early 2000s and it will continue, and I am not a shareholder so I dont give a damn about Brians portfolio. If young people want it that will be great, but I hope Brian stops the stupid stuff. Enough bastardazation has occurred already, the biggest has been the explosion of cloned cookie cutters.

And who cares what some arrogant fools think about racing fans or the south. I dont follow racing to name drop or impress. It is just a fun hobby that doesnt need to be accredited. The disqusting lot that wants that, should be deprived, since the actual racing isnt paramount to them.

I may not live long enough to see them eventually replaced, I will just have to be satisfied knowing that Brian will die himself one day. I dont care if the next guy is Red, Black, Blue, or even genderless. I just hope the next CEO will be a racer at heart and not such a corporate prostitute.

It will not happen, so I will just hope I live long enough to see Brian die. No joke, he and Bruton have harmed racing imo.

Given the situation, it is probably better just to try and enjoy the racing in its current state and not worry about things we can not control.
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True.
 
BobbyFord said:
They can build a computer (which really isn't difficult)
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Techno kids these days don't even know how to build a computer from scratch. They plug their store-bought Xbox into the TV and pretend they're Bill Gates.

Robin Miller did an interview with Dan Gurney about a year ago and Gurney said that video games and CGI movies have taken away the spectacle of racing. Daytona and Indy were exciting because of the high speeds. Now you watch Transformers 8 or 9 or some bull**** and you see stuff flying through the sky and it desensitizes the public to real speed, danger and excitement.
 
KevinWI said:
Techno kids these days don't even know how to build a computer from scratch. They plug their store-bought Xbox into the TV and pretend they're Bill Gates.

Robin Miller did an interview with Dan Gurney about a year ago and Gurney said that video games and CGI movies have taken away the spectacle of racing. Daytona and Indy were exciting because of the high speeds. Now you watch Transformers 8 or 9 or some bull**** and you see stuff flying through the sky and it desensitizes the public to real speed, danger and excitement.
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They missed out on an incredibly exciting era of auto racing. I'm not old enough to have seen real chrome bumper racing but I first remember going to the races with my dad in the late 60's and rooting for David Pearson.
 
without having to read all 5 pages my answer is this.

I think it starts at the home tracks. I know for me personally as a kid I remember my Dad watching Nascar. I never watched it a whole lot with him. When I was14 we went to Stockton 99 Speedway here in Northern California. I was immediately hooked by the show. From that point forward we spent virtually every weekend at a racetrack until I was 20 years old. Stockton/Altamont/Madera/Merced(dirt)/Chowchilla(dirt)/Watsonville(dirt). We would get the schedules when they were released and make our own schedule based on where we wanted to go. Friday nights was for dirt, Saturdays at the asphault tracks. I have watched virtually every Nascar race since we started going.

Now today all that is left is Stockton(after closing and reopening), Madera, Merced and Watsonville. Car counts are down. Money is down. Sponsors are down. As much as I love supporting my local short tracks I find it hard to justify taking my 2 1/2 year old to a show that has 10 late models, 10 modifieds, 8 hobby stocks, 4 4 cylinders etc.

So to sum it up, the local tracks need to get there **** together and find creative ways to put on good promotions with solid car counts that will draw good attendance. From there it rolls down hill. People show up, they garner interest in the sport, they watch the big leagues of the sport because they enjoy the local shows they see and all of that equals life long fans and generations of fans to boot.

In my personal experiences every girl I have dated or had any sort of a relationship with that has joined me at the races didnt have a clue about the sport. After going to one of the local tracks they become fans of the sport to at least the point where they enjoy to watch it. My wife enjoys the sport a lot and we go to Sonoma every year. My son is hooked so there is the generational fan kicking in. My Dad, Me, my Son. Who knows what the future will hold from here.

People need to get invovled in things at an infantile stage in order to truly be a fan for a lengthy period of time. Not to say some cannot be fans later in life, but the ones that breed more fans are the ones who get into it at its lowest levels.
 
24 million in usa.... watched usa world cup snooze !
why ? buzz ! betcha lg % didn't have clue bout soccer.

daytona / dega pack infield ....all 4 races...every yr. ! why ? buzz....party .

folks wanna be involved in / in tha know....on "buzz" events ....whether young /old . ie-superbowl.
monday water cooler talk.

sorry ole farts (like me)....good ole days ain't gonna return .
better accept that......dive into future.....or find another passion.

i still say new chase will provide buzz......if only w/ #3 / 6 / 9 / 10 elimination races.
and maybe only w/ current core fans.?

drawin younger fans in ?
have no idea at my age. but it damn well better have a mobile device at it's center !
on tv ....and at track ! they all seem ta have umbilical cord attachment ta those devices.

having only fox / nbc next yr forward will help too.
all humans are habitual folks.

wanna fill those empty stands on backstretch w/ young guys ....buzz ?
cheap tickets. and put a hooters ....twin peaks...etc underneath !
stands may still be empty.....but hellava party ! ha!
 
The problem with labels and more precisely for this thread "racing traditionalist", or maybe "purist".
The label assigns a conventionalism or conformity in the mind many. I dont know if I am a true purist, I want to believe that I am, and I do have a problem with the values many would tag pr assign to the idea.

I am not locked into having only Chevys, Fords, Dodges etc, or even V8s being the only option. But the biggest pro V8 point imo is the fact that you can still purchase one. When that ceases to be the case, Nascar needs to move along with the times.

Back in the day they wasnt invested in the traditionalism. The cars kept evolving. They went to the smaller wheel base cars in 1981 with much less fanfare than the COT or the the Gen6 and they looked much more like the real thing because they had more genuine Detroit metal.

A Buick Regal, Pontiac Gran Prix or Lemans, Oldsmobile , or Chevy Monte Carlo all GM cousins could be easily Identified on the track because they had the actual manufacturers metal. No superfical decals or the intelligence insulting exhaust decals were needed.
And Nascar didnt have to Gestapo the driver critics with shut up fines either, they were just secure enough to run the racing right.
They didnt need drivers with the personality of a Stepford wife. And Waltrip alone in 1981 was a lot more interesting than todays Vanilla Stepford sweeties.

I think the cars should look like something that the common man can afford. Nascar shouldn't serve Detroit, one of the foundations was "stock" car. Obviously that is impossible, but the metal, grill, and outer components should be genuine as possibile. The hood, trunklids, side panels, grills, and bumpers should be factory stuff.

And the gap between the local tracks and the Grand National East should be much closer. If a local hot shoe wants to run against them he should be able too with a few modifications. There needs to be a more common genuine link from the local track to the big time. And a kid that has no sugar daddy to rai$e him up thru the ranks, shouldn't be too old to to get started at 18 or 21, or even 25.
In todays world an 18 y/o with no experience would be a fool to even consider the idea. They will never fit the template of of the small group of king makers.

And multicar cars team are a big box, bland generic one size fits all problem too. They have conformed the stepford drivers.
 
FLRacingFan said:
It was actually up. I posted this in the race thread but it's relevant here too:

http://www.sportsmediawatch.com/201...s-sonoma-sees-very-slight-bump-in-viewership/

Viewership for the race was up just 0.3% from last year, rising from 4.66 million to 4.68 million. Still, that marked the third viewership increase of the season for Sprint Cup racing, and the second on TNT.
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Thanks for that FL, I notice they say" just up" when it goes up, and oh my! record low when it drops..they keep using 2005 peak figures :p So I guess we can say that not only are road courses gaining more of the market share...but it was because of the younger demographic, full moon and the old fans are dying off...and it is all Brian's fault with the chase and all.
 
StandOnIt said:
Thanks for that FL, I notice they say" just up" when it goes up, and oh my! record low when it drops..they keep using 2005 peak figures :p So I guess we can say that not only are road courses gaining more of the market share...but it was because of the younger demographic, full moon and the old fans are dying off...and it is all Brian's fault with the chase and all.
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I think there is cause for concern though when viewership has been down vs. 2013 in all but three races, and rating has been down vs. 2013 at every race but Pocono. And yes, when it has been up, they have just been slight increases. I thought things were supposed to be better with wins being so important now, the racing being so much better, the revolutionary new Chase system, etc.
 
From the same article, sooner or later if you read enough, the B.S. twisting of the figures start to become what is happening in real time.

For the week, NASCAR on TNT ranked as the sixth-most watched program on cable. Only the World Cup and a pair of TNT dramas did better.

The real reality is what they can sell the product for...not all this horse spit. I think I have a truck worth 20 grand easy..but haven't had any offers but thousands of calls...that doesn't mean it is worth 20 grand..same with all this who knows if it is dependable info. money talks and we know what walks. IMO The networks are not telling how much they are charging for commercials, but there sure are plenty paying for the privilege to bombard us with buy it now.
 
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The younger generation does not care about what engine is under the hood, what the chase is or how they qualify. Nor do they care if the cars are 2 door versions of the stock 4 door. These are things CURRENT fans have always hated.

Step back and pay attention. Here is some food for thought.
  1. Think X-Games. The younger generation would go to these games. And it would be cool to tell your friends you are going. Not so much to a NASCAR race.
  2. Winter Olympics. Do you think the younger generation is interested in figure skating or snowboarding?
  3. Does the average teen care about Dupont or Monster?
  4. If parents give a teen a brand new off the lot car, does the teen keep it stock looking? Hell no.
  5. Reddit/Josh Wise.
  6. The crazy stunts/shows, Monster and Red Bull pay for.
This is what they need.
  • Sponsors that have some meaning to teens.
  • Get rid of qualifying. The order is determined by votes from a smartphone app.
  • The races available to watch via mobile. All of them and available to watch whenever. Free.
  • Very short races. Short tracks only. Multiple races in one day. Driver will the lowest number of votes does not get to race in the feature event. Think All Star race with other types of entertainment going on.
  • Races on Friday or Saturday nights. Occasionally on a Wednesday afternoon when school is in so that kids have to ditch school to attend. Haha Not Sunday afternoon.
  • Free tickets given away on Facebook/Twitter for tweeting or posting to Facebook something requested.
  • Access to drivers at the tracks. As in video chats with fans. That type of thing.
  • Current pop/hip hop/rock groups playing a concert at the event. Similar Grand Marshals as well. Not Bobby Allyson because is started his first race 68 years ago.
  • No former racers/crew chiefs in the booth talking about how they did it 30 years ago. They just need someone that knows what happened last week and can keep the fans attention. Someone in the know that knows who is hooking up with whom this week.
  • Drivers need to get tattoos and body jewelry.
  • More hot looking racers like Danica.
  • No drivers with redneck names. And nobody over 30. ;)

No? Ok. ;)
 
just assumption ......figure most tnt adv time has been presold -all 3 races left....regardless of eyeballs. ?

betcha abc/espn presold a bunch .......but hopin for bump in $$ask for rest . ?
 
zevious said:
The younger generation does not care about what engine is under the hood, what the chase is or how they qualify. Nor do they care if the cars are 2 door versions of the stock 4 door. These are things CURRENT fans have always hated.

Step back and pay attention. Here is some food for thought.
  1. Think X-Games. The younger generation would go to these games. And it would be cool to tell your friends you are going. Not so much to a NASCAR race.
  2. Winter Olympics. Do you think the younger generation is interested in figure skating or snowboarding?
  3. Does the average teen care about Dupont or Monster?
  4. If parents give a teen a brand new off the lot car, does the teen keep it stock looking? Hell no.
  5. Reddit/Josh Wise.
  6. The crazy stunts/shows, Monster and Red Bull pay for.
This is what they need.
  • Sponsors that have some meaning to teens.
  • Get rid of qualifying. The order is determined by votes from a smartphone app.
  • The races available to watch via mobile. All of them and available to watch whenever. Free.
  • Very short races. Short tracks only. Multiple races in one day. Driver will the lowest number of votes does not get to race in the feature event. Think All Star race with other types of entertainment going on.
  • Races on Friday or Saturday nights. Occasionally on a Wednesday afternoon when school is in so that kids have to ditch school to attend. Haha Not Sunday afternoon.
  • Free tickets given away on Facebook/Twitter for tweeting or posting to Facebook something requested.
  • Access to drivers at the tracks. As in video chats with fans. That type of thing.
  • Current pop/hip hop/rock groups playing a concert at the event. Similar Grand Marshals as well. Not Bobby Allyson because is started his first race 68 years ago.
  • No former racers/crew chiefs in the booth talking about how they did it 30 years ago. They just need someone that knows what happened last week and can keep the fans attention. Someone in the know that knows who is hooking up with whom this week.
  • Drivers need to get tattoos and body jewelry.
  • More hot looking racers like Danica.
  • No drivers with redneck names. And nobody over 30. ;)

No? Ok. ;)
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:headbang::headbang::headbang::bleh::cuckoo:

this response oughta be good ! ha!
 
hilarious..problem is teens and the younger generation have little or no money and most of them are up to their kesters in debt. but they have a cell phone. might be the reason why every other commercial is for a cell phone or chicken bone
 
StandOnIt said:
hilarious..problem is teens and the younger generation have little or no money and most of them are up to their kesters in debt. but they have a cell phone. might be the reason why every other commercial is for a cell phone or chicken bone
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like tha spunk tho ! they'll find real fried chicken --church's ....later on !
 
This issue is so freakin' simple, but the solution is extremely complex. The sport and what if offers is not the issue. It is fine the way it is for the younger crowd. Kids are not the issue. They haven't changed a bit. Sure, there are the computers and stuff, but what makes them happy is becoming extinct--the opportunity to spend time with adults who love and care about them....and NASCAR takes time. This is about the disintegration of the family. Even families who have held it together are going a million miles a minute just to make ends meet. You can change the sport all you want, but until we get this economy to the place where we can get families to come to the races, and then follow the sport, we will continue to get older as a fan base. I am proud to say that I have an adolescent son. He spends most of his time in his room on Facebook, studying, etc. as most teenagers do these days. I look forward to spending time with him pretty much once a week--right after the command. My wife came to the party after we went to Fontana the first time. Yup. Family time NASCAR style. Count on it. Go Toyota!
 
As an 18 year old guy I have many friends that like to go out and do other things then watch a Nascar race. Its not that they don't think cars running speeds up to 200 MPH is cool, its they don't understand anything about the sport. A year ago I attended the Atlanta Sprint Cup race with my friend. Carl Edwards was on the Ford Stage, so instantly being a Roush guy, I made my way to the stage. My friend, seeing everyone's excitement about Carl, said "why is everyone so thrilled I can do what he does". Being a friend i kept my mouth shut. A lot of people don't understand these cars weigh 3,200 LBS with 850 Horsepower. There is no luxurious traction control or other qualities we enjoy in our everyday vehicles. Until people can understand the art and beauty of the talents these drivers show every weekend, I don't see them showing interest.
 
NASCAR does look incredibly boring from the outside. It's kinda like watching golf without somebody to root for. After getting involved, after finding a team or a driver to follow and cheer on...that's when it gets exciting. At least that's how it worked for me with NASCAR and F1. The problem is that it's hard for somebody to just plop down and become "hooked" all on their own. Many fans had the luxury of going to tracks as children (at least local tracks), or coming from a family where everybody enjoyed racing. That's where I think the majority of the younger fans will come from just as they always have.

It's important to note that watching racing is boring if you don't know what to look for, just like many Americans think that soccer is boring to watch. Hell, even fans who are dedicated enough to chat about NASCAR in this forum still consistently complain about races being boring and not being worth a full watching. If dedicated fans are talking like this, how can we expect outsiders to become interested?
 
zevious said:
The younger generation does not care about what engine is under the hood, what the chase is or how they qualify. Nor do they care if the cars are 2 door versions of the stock 4 door. These are things CURRENT fans have always hated.

Step back and pay attention. Here is some food for thought.
  1. Think X-Games. The younger generation would go to these games. And it would be cool to tell your friends you are going. Not so much to a NASCAR race.
  2. Winter Olympics. Do you think the younger generation is interested in figure skating or snowboarding?
  3. Does the average teen care about Dupont or Monster?
  4. If parents give a teen a brand new off the lot car, does the teen keep it stock looking? Hell no.
  5. Reddit/Josh Wise.
  6. The crazy stunts/shows, Monster and Red Bull pay for.
This is what they need.
  • Sponsors that have some meaning to teens.
  • Get rid of qualifying. The order is determined by votes from a smartphone app.
  • The races available to watch via mobile. All of them and available to watch whenever. Free.
  • Very short races. Short tracks only. Multiple races in one day. Driver will the lowest number of votes does not get to race in the feature event. Think All Star race with other types of entertainment going on.
  • Races on Friday or Saturday nights. Occasionally on a Wednesday afternoon when school is in so that kids have to ditch school to attend. Haha Not Sunday afternoon.
  • Free tickets given away on Facebook/Twitter for tweeting or posting to Facebook something requested.
  • Access to drivers at the tracks. As in video chats with fans. That type of thing.
  • Current pop/hip hop/rock groups playing a concert at the event. Similar Grand Marshals as well. Not Bobby Allyson because is started his first race 68 years ago.
  • No former racers/crew chiefs in the booth talking about how they did it 30 years ago. They just need someone that knows what happened last week and can keep the fans attention. Someone in the know that knows who is hooking up with whom this week.
  • Drivers need to get tattoos and body jewelry.
  • More hot looking racers like Danica.
  • No drivers with redneck names. And nobody over 30. ;)

No? Ok. ;)
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Some of this is very valid.

I think the sponsorship in Nascar is very outdated. Monster is a proud sponsor of Kyle Busch a very talented yet loud and brash personality. Very similar to the demographic for their product. Energy drinks were wildly popular amongst the younger generation. I still dont know what Drive to end Hunger is. I honestly dont care either.

To simplify it. My 2 year old knows my guys name.(Larson) He recognizes him as the Target car. My wife's guy(Busch) because of the M&M's and he picked Jamie McMurray as his guy because of McDonalds. If we can see the branding and how it works on a 2 year old how do we not see it with sponsors like CAT/DuPont/Farmers Insurance etc.

Look at top names in the sport and look at the sponors.

JR- AMP Energy
JJ- Lowes
Harvick- Budweiser
Stewart- Bass Pro
Ky. Busch- Mars

Most of the top names have recognizeable sponsorship for every demographic. Larson and Danica have Target and GoDaddy. All major companies.

Where is the sponsorship from Google? Apple? Samsung? Yahoo? What does the younger generation recognize? Whats global? Whats national? Winston's and Busch beer are no longer in play. While the rest of the world has evolved to technology Nascar is still having Sprint as the title sponsor. Who really thinks of Sprint when they think of phones? Why has there not been a Facebook or Twitter sponsored car? If you want to attract a younger demographic you have to appeal to them, if you cant appeal to them infiltrate what does. Streaming footage ala what WWE has done with their own network of streaming footage available on mobile devices.

Nascar has to risk losing some of the old to get the new. There will definitley be backlash if they attempt to make a major swing, but at the end of the day when people do not want to invest 3 1/2 hours into something how can we expect them to invest the time to learn the nuances of the sport?

I would like to see the Qualifying part eliminated as well. Maybe run heats to determine the order.

Ironically I just won free tickets to Madera Speedway for this Saturday night by commenting on Facebook. I think this stuff is a great idea. I will be going for free to see the Lucas Oil Modifieds and what is now the Southwest Tour.
 
DSquad48 said:
NASCAR does look incredibly boring from the outside. It's kinda like watching golf without somebody to root for. After getting involved, after finding a team or a driver to follow and cheer on...that's when it gets exciting. At least that's how it worked for me with NASCAR and F1. The problem is that it's hard for somebody to just plop down and become "hooked" all on their own. Many fans had the luxury of going to tracks as children (at least local tracks), or coming from a family where everybody enjoyed racing. That's where I think the majority of the younger fans will come from just as they always have.

It's important to note that watching racing is boring if you don't know what to look for, just like many Americans think that soccer is boring to watch. Hell, even fans who are dedicated enough to chat about NASCAR in this forum still consistently complain about races being boring and not being worth a full watching. If dedicated fans are talking like this, how can we expect outsiders to become interested?
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I agree with this wholeheartedly. As a fan of Bobby Labonte for years the past 5 have been almost unbearable. Fortunately for me I enjoy the sport so I still watched, but having someone to pull for makes you more engaged as a fan and as a spectator. Just this weekend at Sonoma I was around a lot of first timers. Most were execs. who obviously received the tickets as a perk from Save Mart(the title sponsor). After Matt Kenseth was wrecked many of them were just amazed he got out and walked away. I also had a ton of looks as me and my family showed emotion during the race for our drivers.. Nascar has always been run on family and it has become much more corporate. Thats not a bad thing, but you do lose some of the passionate fans because the corporate aspect phases out the working man.

I agree that if a strong majority of us cant sit through the broadcast without complaining about the action, how do we expect newbies to have the attention span. There will always be duds. Its just the way it goes. I personally like that the race is nap inducing. My Sundays are my lazy day until football season anyways. So Nascar has always been something for me that works.
 
FLRacingFan said:
It was actually up. I posted this in the race thread but it's relevant here too:

http://www.sportsmediawatch.com/201...s-sonoma-sees-very-slight-bump-in-viewership/

Viewership for the race was up just 0.3% from last year, rising from 4.66 million to 4.68 million. Still, that marked the third viewership increase of the season for Sprint Cup racing, and the second on TNT.
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If two of the races on TNT have had an increase in viewers, Then I would think the reason viewers are declining is because of FOX.
 
Tv just cant deliver the sensory experience of live being there racing.
In contrast I can follow a football game better on the set.
So a kid that only has seen it on tv will not be as impressed
 
Greg said:
Tv just cant deliver the sensory experience of live being there racing.
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Drag racing suffers the most from this.

99.9% of the experience of watching nitro dragsters and funny cars live is lost watching it on the boob tube.
 
Greg said:
Tv just cant deliver the sensory experience of live being there racing.
In contrast I can follow a football game better on the set.
So a kid that only has seen it on tv will not be as impressed
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Then this goes back to the "what keeps you from going to more nascar races?" Thread & the majority opinion was costs & no time. With this in mind, the younger crowd is either busy with school or busy working paying off loans from school so they virtually have no "fun money" to spend on sporting events. Cheaper & easier to watch from the living room. They are unimpressed watching it on tv and boom, lost opportunity.
 
What everybody keeps walking around is the elephant in the room. Nascar consistently ranks in the top 5 programs watched for the whole week. So despite what the numbers say up or down, they finish top 5 or better.
 
TexasRaceLady said:
For one thing, who knows how to work on a car anymore? The new cars need a computer and a tech to determine a problem.
I spent many hours working with my husband on our cars, and the dirt car, years ago.
I'm doing good to know where to put in the gas and where to check the oil/transmission fluid on my 2010.
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Sad, but true! as a kid, I could tell you the make of a r by the sound of the starter. I spent countless hours working on my own stocker in the early 1960's. I thought I knew pretty much what was necessary to race and even had one win in my short career. But the other day, as my Bride and I were driving along I-275, we noticed what looked to be a new Camry being loaded on a flat bed and I thought, if we ever broke down, I would have no idea where to look to see why.
 
as to what TRL said about checking the transmission? Get this, they are producing cars this year with the transmission sealed...no dipstick or lower pan to pull to change the filter.
 
Brandon Hall said:
As an 18 year old guy I have many friends that like to go out and do other things then watch a Nascar race. Its not that they don't think cars running speeds up to 200 MPH is cool, its they don't understand anything about the sport. A year ago I attended the Atlanta Sprint Cup race with my friend. Carl Edwards was on the Ford Stage, so instantly being a Roush guy, I made my way to the stage. My friend, seeing everyone's excitement about Carl, said "why is everyone so thrilled I can do what he does". Being a friend i kept my mouth shut. A lot of people don't understand these cars weigh 3,200 LBS with 850 Horsepower. There is no luxurious traction control or other qualities we enjoy in our everyday vehicles. Until people can understand the art and beauty of the talents these drivers show every weekend, I don't see them showing interest.
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Brandon Hall said:
As an 18 year old guy I have many friends that like to go out and do other things then watch a Nascar race. Its not that they don't think cars running speeds up to 200 MPH is cool, its they don't understand anything about the sport. A year ago I attended the Atlanta Sprint Cup race with my friend. Carl Edwards was on the Ford Stage, so instantly being a Roush guy, I made my way to the stage. My friend, seeing everyone's excitement about Carl, said "why is everyone so thrilled I can do what he does". Being a friend i kept my mouth shut. A lot of people don't understand these cars weigh 3,200 LBS with 850 Horsepower. There is no luxurious traction control or other qualities we enjoy in our everyday vehicles. Until people can understand the art and beauty of the talents these drivers show every weekend, I don't see them showing interest.
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Welcome Brandon, You and I are mere neighbors, I am from the Asheville area, My wife's family own a place in or on Clarks Hill.
You are correct about people not understanding what they see on TV. Most of my friends never got hooke until I took them to a Race.
 
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