NASCAR considers turning down the volume on its cars

Charlie Spencer said:
That just lets me talk to one to three other people on the same hook-up I'm on. It doesn't let me talk to that guy in front of me who pulls for the same driver I do, or rag the gal behind me when her driver hits the wall.

Fans shouldn't have to buy extra equipment to have a conversation.
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Thumbs up to the guy in front of you and a crotch chop to the lady behind you(assuming she's a cool lady)
 
dpkimmel2001 said:
Each pair have a microphone and are hooked together onto their own scanner. There is a button on the ear piece that you press when you want to speak. They are pretty decent but if it is extremely loud, like at Bristol, it can still be tough to hear.

Here's a link to one of their package deals. Expensive. The only time to buy them is just before Christmas when they are 50% off.

http://www.racingelectronics.com/product-p/re3000-gem5-pkg.htm
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Expensive indeed. Could go to 10 races for that price. Seems like a good product though.
 
Man, there ain't nothing like standing behind a fence 5 feet away when they rev the engine. :cool: I was a Chad Knaus fan that day.

The sound has only bothered me once. That was at Charlotte. I believe we must have been in the worse spot possible for sound. When I took my earplugs out, everything sounded garbled like being under water. Other than that, the sound is one of the things that makes being there better than watching at home.
 
Must be just a huge difference in generations of fans. From the day that I went to my first NASCAR race I found out it was loud. I responded by purchasing a couple ear plugs at the track for a highly overpriced amount. For some reason though, I never thought about giving up the sport because of how loud it was. I think I bought better ear plugs the next couple times I went. Then I started wearing the equivalent of shooting range ear protection to a few races. Then, when scanners became more mainstream, I purchased one of those and a couple headsets for my wife and I. Eventually I purchased another set when we started taking the kids to the race. Finally, I bought two sets so that we could talk during the race. I guess I just adapted to the surroundings never giving a thought to not going.
 
Matthew2470 said:
The cars are so loud that it makes it really hard to enjoy the race with friends and family seated near you. Everyone has ear protecion. Also it's so damn hot that it would be nice for kids to be able to remove ear protection from time to time. Many of us use scanners but most do not. Take a look at the picture of the crowds during the races. Everyone just sits there stone faced. No engagement with others.

That being said, don't make the cars quiet. Just knock off a few decibles to where standard earplugs will be sufficient.
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I'd be OK with this. Knocking out maybe 10-20% of the volume might be a good thing.
 
dpkimmel2001 said:
Must be just a huge difference in generations of fans. From the day that I went to my first NASCAR race I found out it was loud. I responded by purchasing a couple ear plugs at the track for a highly overpriced amount. For some reason though, I never thought about giving up the sport because of how loud it was. I think I bought better ear plugs the next couple times I went. Then I started wearing the equivalent of shooting range ear protection to a few races. Then, when scanners became more mainstream, I purchased one of those and a couple headsets for my wife and I. Eventually I purchased another set when we started taking the kids to the race. Finally, I bought two sets so that we could talk during the race. I guess I just adapted to the surroundings never giving a thought to not going.
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Oh, the sound won't keep me from going. I wear a headset, and have a couple of pairs of earplugs tucked away in the seat cushion just in case. But I'd find it more enjoyable if I could take them off off a while and talk with people. I already have hearing issues, and the unmuffled sound is painful to me.
 
the cars do sound different than they used to say like 20 years ago. at least they do on video
 
UpNorth said:
Honestly, we're not going back to Kansas this year in large part because of how ridiculously loud the cars are. We had a mixed group of big time fans and very casual fans and were disappointed we couldn't converse back and forth more during the race.

To each his own, but this macho attitude that if they aren't as loud as possible then NASCAR sucks is ridiculous
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Your comments are good to hear, no pun intended, as I never would have guessed that people would make a decision not to go to a race track again due to noise. Don't take this the wrong way but to me it would be like not returning to a movie theater because there was too much comedy, drama or mystery.

I wonder if young people don't go to the library or movie theater because they are not allowed to converse? What about noisy bars where you have to shout to be heard and that is before the music begins?
 
Skoalbandit33 said:
Your comments are good to hear, no pun intended, as I never would have guessed that people would make a decision not to go to a race track again due to noise. Don't take this the wrong way but to me it would be like not returning to a movie theater because there was too much comedy, drama or mystery.

I wonder if young people don't go to the library or movie theater because they are not allowed to converse? What about noisy bars where you have to shout to be heard and that is before the music begins?
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One of the top two reasons I avoid bars, nightclubs, etc.is the noise; smoke is the other. I've worn earplugs to my last few concerts.

I don't know too many people who go to libraries as a group.
 
dpkimmel2001 said:
Must be just a huge difference in generations of fans. From the day that I went to my first NASCAR race I found out it was loud. I responded by purchasing a couple ear plugs at the track for a highly overpriced amount. For some reason though, I never thought about giving up the sport because of how loud it was. I think I bought better ear plugs the next couple times I went. Then I started wearing the equivalent of shooting range ear protection to a few races. Then, when scanners became more mainstream, I purchased one of those and a couple headsets for my wife and I. Eventually I purchased another set when we started taking the kids to the race. Finally, I bought two sets so that we could talk during the race. I guess I just adapted to the surroundings never giving a thought to not going.
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When I was a kid we always wanted to make are cars and motorcycles louder whether it was using straight pipes, headers, expansion chambers or anything else we could think of. When we went to the race track loud noise was expected and we never cared about conversing as that was for after the race. If we needed to communicate with each other it was usually an elbow in the rib followed by pointing at the cooler which meant "Do you want another beer?"
 
Charlie Spencer said:
One of the top two reasons I avoid bars, nightclubs, etc.is the noise; smoke is the other. I've worn earplugs to my last few concerts.

I don't know too many people who go to libraries as a group.
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I know high school and college kids that go to the library en mass but not many adults. I wear ear plugs at certain eateries and some social gatherings to block out the din as it never used to bother me but it irritates me know. I like the foam expandable type as you can hear what you want and you can toss them when they are not needed. I have to make sure I speak up when I wear them as I always feel like I am yelling.
 
After the muffler issue is addressed and these noisy beasts are tamed for the health and happiness of the fans, perhaps NASCAR will get down to serious discussions over brake lights.

Perhaps some drivers might use them to avoid accidents wrecks crashes.
 
aunty dive said:
We used these:

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A lot of short tracks have sound limitations in place to keep their neighbors at bay. These things take the sharp edge off the sound of the cars. Still lots of volume.

http://www.flopro.com/twister.html
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We used augers to feed our cattle
 
dpkimmel2001 said:
Each pair have a microphone and are hooked together onto their own scanner. There is a button on the ear piece that you press when you want to speak. They are pretty decent but if it is extremely loud, like at Bristol, it can still be tough to hear.

Here's a link to one of their package deals. Expensive. The only time to buy them is just before Christmas when they are 50% off.

http://www.racingelectronics.com/product-p/re3000-gem5-pkg.htm
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Fans are using these today. I talked to Racing Radios on my way out and they said
a set of phones with the mic is $199 a set. You can daisy chain them together
with as many as you want.
 
Charlie Spencer said:
From what I've seen, the majority of those in attendance.
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It's the NASCAR version of shirtless at a winter football game. I can't do it without some kind of ear covering any more (though many races I went to as a kid/teen I wore nothing).
 
Amazing, I've been to many live races and have never not been able to shoot the **** with other spectators.
 
I want to feel the violence and the ears isnt the only senses that feels the power. The noise, the smells, the rawness, the violence, it is an incredible experience that shouldn't be watered down or castrated.

Racing is intense beyond imagination, to absorbing for much conversation. But if it is a must scribble a note on a pad, and that is usually a comment about somebody's problem with their car, etc. Very short and to the point, merely to draw attention for a freind to see on the track.

If that aint enough I would recommend a coffee house, or something with a nice conversation parlor for the stimulating talk. Anywhere with anything besides a car race or a rock concert will be better suited for those times.
 
R Clarence said:
After the muffler issue is addressed and these noisy beasts are tamed for the health and happiness of the fans, perhaps NASCAR will get down to serious discussions over brake lights.

Perhaps some drivers might use them to avoid accidents wrecks crashes.
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It could add a new dimension to getting brake checked or fake brake checked.
 
NASCAR continuing to fix what isn't broken I see. I honestly believe the folks running the sport don't actually like stock car racing at all.
 
Pat said:
Man, there ain't nothing like standing behind a fence 5 feet away when they rev the engine. :cool: I was a Chad Knaus fan that day.

The sound has only bothered me once. That was at Charlotte. I believe we must have been in the worse spot possible for sound. When I took my earplugs out, everything sounded garbled like being under water. Other than that, the sound is one of the things that makes being there better than watching at home.
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I had that problem at a Ted Nugent concert except I didn't have earplugs.
 
ChexOrWrex said:
If you make the personal choice to attend a nascar race and then complain about the noise level of the race cars with 750HP, you are an idiot.
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amen, that's what race cars are all about. raw power, that's what makes a race car. what kind of race fan doesn't want to hear the raw power of a race car?
 
Oldest grand son was three or four when my son in law took him to some sort of exhibition involvin' a monster truck at a mall somewhere in NoVa.

They fired the thing off 'n he tried to crawl under his daddy's tee shirt.
 
BOWTIE GUY said:
amen, that's what race cars are all about. raw power, that's what makes a race car. what kind of race fan doesn't want to hear the raw power of a race car?
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I don't know what 'kind' I am. The kind that doesn't understand why power has to be accompanied by loud sound, I guess.

For the record, I'm not complaining about the sound. It's just another of those things in life that I accept but wouldn't mind at all if it went away; kinda like I feel about some co-workers. It's not in the same category as the Chase or plate racing, two features I actively oppose.
 
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