NASCAR considers turning down the volume on its cars

It will if they're drinking Monster.

I have yet to see an explanation of 'edgy' or 'Monster lifestyle', either as relates specifically to NASCAR or in general.
 
Charlie Spencer said:
It will if they're drinking Monster.

I have yet to see an explanation of 'edgy' or 'Monster lifestyle', either as relates specifically to NASCAR or in general.
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I watched some movies with Vincent Price and Boris Karloff and lived the monster lifestyle for a couple of hours a few nights ago. Still don't know what edgy means.
 
Skoalbandit33 said:
I watched some movies with Vincent Price and Boris Karloff and lived the monster lifestyle for a couple of hours a few nights ago. Still don't know what edgy means.
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My wife and I eat up '50's and '60s films from Britian's Hammer Studios, with a ladle. If that's the monster lifestyle, we've been living it since before it was edgy.
 
KTMLew01 said:
130db is stupid. My hearing loss is probably more to do with running a air hammer in the fender wells of Chevy trucks knocking out the camber adjustment stops. But loud motorcycles & go-karts surely didn't help. Some can't seem to grasp the data. If you are around a nearly constant 130db noise, any hearing protection you are wearing that allows you to communicate with others requires the sound to be turned waaaay up. Just like listening to loud music with ear buds. The fact that people WANT to have their hearing damaged is unbelievable...oh wait...it isn't.
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Theres hundreds of types of hearing protection devices. Its not everyone else's fault you were negligent.
 
ChexOrWrex said:
Theres hundreds of types of hearing protection devices. Its not everyone else's fault you were negligent.
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The first time I became acquainted with noise and ear protection was in 1984 with a company that made you wear ear protection anytime you left the office area and went into the plant. If you worked in the plant you had your hearing checked to establish a baseline and then annually and you had to wear hearing protection at all times unless you were in a designated area like a lunch room. The funny thing was you could smoke like a chimney if you wanted.
 
Before last week, if I only had a dollar for every time I heard someone say that NASCAR cars are too loud, I still wouldn't have enough money to by a small cup of coffee from McDonald's. This week it's as popular a topic as an early 2016 post race missing lug nut..... And probably every bit as relevant. In other words story blown completely out of proportion.
 
dpkimmel2001 said:
Before last week, if I only had a dollar for every time I heard someone say that NASCAR cars are too loud, I still wouldn't have enough money to by a small cup of coffee from McDonald's. This week it's as popular a topic as an early 2016 post race missing lug nut..... And probably every bit as relevant. In other words story blown completely out of proportion.
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That is the sort of thing I am questioning as how on earth do these things get started? I almost expect to hear an announcement that due to what the fans want a new quieter car will be used at Pocono and MIS this year and then full time next year. I am not knocking the stages Nascar uses but where they heck did Nascar get the idea that is what fans wanted? Where did Nascar get the idea that the fans wanted playoffs?

I am not complaining more than I am just wondering how these matters become topics of conversation and then next thing is that I am being told that it is what I want.
 
I recall the venerable Micheal Waltrip mentioned it then it was picked up by some equally esteemed journalist under the heading of “twelve” changes or something similar.

Personally, I’m for each and every one of the pending enhancements but mostly the brake (break for our special friends) lights. The more flashing lights, fireworks, jumps and the like the better.
 
Skoalbandit33 said:
That is the sort of thing I am questioning as how on earth do these things get started? I almost expect to hear an announcement that due to what the fans want a new quieter car will be used at Pocono and MIS this year and then full time next year. I am not knocking the stages Nascar uses but where they heck did Nascar get the idea that is what fans wanted? Where did Nascar get the idea that the fans wanted playoffs?

I am not complaining more than I am just wondering how these matters become topics of conversation and then next thing is that I am being told that it is what I want.
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We wonder about many of the same things.
 
It occurs to me that Michael Wallslap probably can't hear himself talk.
 
Literally no one has suggested that the cars be made "quiet". They are only kicking around the idea to reduce the volume a bit. No one wants quiet cars and everyone wants to feel the roar and rumble. There is nothing wrong with knocking off the extreme high decibals that cause hearing loss and make communication with friends and family impossible.

Of course this goes against the trend of assumption based meltdowns.
 
Matthew2470 said:
There is nothing wrong with knocking off the extreme high decibals that cause hearing loss and make communication with friends and family impossible.
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There. The voice of authority proclaiming there's nothing wrong with knocking off "decibals."

I must agree.
 
I sat about 30 rows up near the end of pit road this past week for the trucks and Xfin. There were 2 grandmothers (mid to late 60's) in the row behind me that had brought their grandsons to the track to see Chase. neither of them wore earplugs for the duration of both races. And I know they could hear because I had a conversation with them between races lol.
 
Sometimes folks don't think.

Watched a neighbor, I believe to be fairly intelligent, running a string trimmer along his sidewalk with a kid following closely behind. Neither with eye protection.
 
R Clarence said:
Sometimes folks don't think.

Watched a neighbor, I believe to be fairly intelligent, running a string trimmer along his sidewalk with a kid following closely behind. Neither with eye protection.
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I worked in a lawn mower plant; our lawyer could tell you about worse than that. There's the ever-popular trick of removing the handle and welding two 'handles' on the sides, so you and your buddy can hold it up as a hedge trimmer :eek:
 
ChexOrWrex said:
Theres hundreds of types of hearing protection devices. Its not everyone else's fault you were negligent.
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So what are you going to say to those 20 years from now that have hearing damage AFTER wearing the best currently available hearing protection? Better speak up. The drivers are going deaf. But anything for your entertainment, right?
 
Did this crap all start right after that "Can ya hear me now" feller jumped ship from Verizon to Sprint???
Maybe Brian saw those commercials at the end of last season and thought it had something to do with his race cars?
 
Yeah.........

Wonder if Micheal will address solid, color coded roofs by manufacturer along with standard number fonts and brake lights in a single article or separate ones.
 
R Clarence said:
Yeah.........

Wonder if Micheal will address solid, color coded roofs by manufacturer along with standard number fonts and brake lights in a single article or separate ones.
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Charlie Spencer said:
Where is this Mikey come air time? I didn't I'd find common ground with him, but this looks like it.
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Don't get your hopes up, this article probably took at least 2 weeks to write.
 
My guess is that he had a ghost writer.
Also he's a 100% Nascar yes person. They may have written it for him. It's my personal opinion.
 
joe h said:
F1 did this and the stands are now empty. It takes a special kind of stupid not to learn from other's mistake.
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That was exactly my thought. In fact, TV Tropes' F1 entry on their "Dork Age" page notes that the switch to the new engines was the point where F1 really started hemorrhaging fans and getting complaints from the leftovers.
 
It's a Millennial cospiracy. Snowflakes will melt at the track..
It's too loud.
It's too expensive.
It's too long to sit here.
It's not 5g wifi friendly.
It's too far away.
It's after dark.
Feel free.to.add............
 
MAGICMILER said:
It's a Millennial cospiracy. Snowflakes will melt at the track..
It's too loud.
It's too expensive.
It's too long to sit here.
It's not 5g wifi friendly.
It's too far away.
It's after dark.
Feel free.to.add............
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Okay, I don't get the criticism of those who don't like a particular sport. So they don't like it; so what? I don't like basketball, but I don't expect that sport's fans to care.
 
BobbyFord said:
I'm curious the age range of the group you were with.
IMO, the social event occurs during tailgating, while attending trackside shows and events, while perusing the vendor area, during pre and post race festivities. The other part is the race.
My friends and I have never really had any problem communicating while the cars are on the track.
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Then there are debri cautions as well that allows time for knitting discussions, and so forth.
 
rNascar Nation is a highly intellectuals crowd, and at the track caught up in the most immersive and intense moments. The noise is an essential ingredient for that immersion.

The earth moves and body shakes with the violence. The fan studies the drivers hitting their marks with a dual precision, as in the driver executes, and the fan sees the beauty. Can't be bothered during the heat of the moment.

Those that dont get it can't see it, and you can't give them your eyes, and if try to articulate to much you loose your own spot.
As big of a misfit as Bubba cutting a loud Fart at a NYC Opera, or even a Movie Theater.

Racing is a long day, to much for spoon feeding the details. If you are not possessed with figuring it out, an explanation will not mean to much anyway.

Chidren would be the exception and I not sure how fair is to expect a little one's attention for so many hours. But as for the racing talk I got my Dad talk riding home from many local Saturday nights. Dad would talk to me about who made the right moves. If somebody screwed up, he would break that down too. In the 1970s there was more shade treeing and dad would point out the junkers and those built right to me as well, but the details was during the drive home. Racing is a lot like life (I even relate racing too hawt wimmins). The post racing talk was a great symmetry of life as well.

Sorry to ramble
 
Personally, I never remember anyone I went to races with saying that they were too loud. I wear ear plugs and use a headphone radio to listed to the radio broadcast. Never been an issue for me. I always get a pack of ear plugs to take with me in case anyone around me needs them.

That being said, if the cars are made quieter, it wouldn't bother me.
About half the time, I do have a headache by races end. It's never stopped me from wanting to go. Besides, Martinsville always gives away tons a free samples of Goodys.
 
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