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Chase Elliott is probably it. I like Nemechek myself, but not sure he's that talented enough to be a constant winner.
Dang skippy it’s important. 50-60% of the races left my tv years ago. I will not jack up cable bills only to rope in one or two more channels. Forget it. And the brochures the tracks keep sending me about ticket renewals are amusing. Hope the newer fans have been enjoying those seats. I’m “learning to like it”...TV is important because it gives fans a chance to watch the race if they don't live by track.
The race was shown over the air rather than on NBCSN. Simple as that.I realized I didn't update this thread with last week's ratings
NASCAR Posts Rare Bump Thanks to Schedule, and Maybe Elliott
It was likely due more to the schedule than to Chase Elliott‘s first career win, but NASCAR ratings increased for just the third time all season.
Sunday’s NASCAR Cup Series Watkins Glen 355 had a 2.3 rating and 3.67 million viewers on the NBC broadcast network, up 15% in ratings and 13% in viewership from last year on NBCSN (2.0, 3.25M) and flat and down 4% from 2016, when the race aired on USA Network opposite the Olympic Games (2.3, 3.83M).
Elliott’s win was just the third Cup Series race all season to post an increase, joining Michigan in June and Chicagoland last month, though all three increases can be attributed to a scheduling change. Watkins Glen and Michigan both moved up from cable to broadcast, while Chicagoland moved from September (opposite the NFL) to July.
I realized I didn't update this thread with last week's ratings
NASCAR Posts Rare Bump Thanks to Schedule, and Maybe Elliott
It was likely due more to the schedule than to Chase Elliott‘s first career win, but NASCAR ratings increased for just the third time all season.
Sunday’s NASCAR Cup Series Watkins Glen 355 had a 2.3 rating and 3.67 million viewers on the NBC broadcast network, up 15% in ratings and 13% in viewership from last year on NBCSN (2.0, 3.25M) and flat and down 4% from 2016, when the race aired on USA Network opposite the Olympic Games (2.3, 3.83M).
Elliott’s win was just the third Cup Series race all season to post an increase, joining Michigan in June and Chicagoland last month, though all three increases can be attributed to a scheduling change. Watkins Glen and Michigan both moved up from cable to broadcast, while Chicagoland moved from September (opposite the NFL) to July.
The race was shown over the air rather than on NBCSN. Simple as that.
They knocked down a ton of grandstands since last August, raised the base price for those who still go... Still there were open seats Which are seen from any photos of the event. Don’t know what it takes to label a race a “sellout”.I know that the sport IS in a decline, but it was the 4th straight sellout from what I heard on TV.
Nothing like knocking down grandstands to artificially boost demand. Hasn’t worked for Dover. Used to be you couldn’t get a ticket without a subscription to both races. Now you can get a seat wherever you want on race day. And seating has been cut significantly.They knocked down a ton of grandstands since last August, raised the base price for those who still go... Still there were open seats Which are seen from any photos of the event. Don’t know what it takes to label a race a “sellout”.
Wonder who bought the tickets of gaps of empty seats?I know that the sport IS in a decline, but it was the 4th straight sellout from what I heard on TV.
You had the golf plus we just seen Michigan.
How the hell do you lose half your viewership in four years? It makes no sense, especially since the stupid point changes started in 04. Something is fishy with these numbers, doesn't seem intuitive.
How the hell do you lose half your viewership in four years? It makes no sense, especially since the stupid point changes started in 04. Something is fishy with these numbers, doesn't seem intuitive.
Brian France and his lack of leadership.How the hell do you lose half your viewership in four years? It makes no sense, especially since the stupid point changes started in 04. Something is fishy with these numbers, doesn't seem intuitive.
I cut the cable cord over a year ago. I used to watch as much as possible, including qualifying and practice and attend a few races a year. I have found more fulfilling things to do and follow the sport primarily through this forum and the now screwy site formally known as Jayski. Good luck NASCAR trying to get the younger demographic to watch, engage in or (gasp) attend an actual race.Also the fact that many do not get the nbcs and fs1 on basic channel lineups. It’s different all over the country but there are many who talk about this in different areas. I know I’m in an area where cable is already high enough and to add the extra package to see those two channels is absurd.
When you are a viewer who would watch most of the season years ago, now you’re limited to maybe seeing 40-50% of races... eventually that’s not enough to hold your attention and MAKE you want to spend a day or two going to a race weekend.
It might be hard for some if theyve have these channels and have had them for awhile to grasp how grim the network situation really has been for many. I use to try and find streams to hold me over... I don’t even care to look this season. I have found so many other things to do with those race time slots. I still care about this stuff after watching for 20 something years, but if I miss half the season I don’t care anymore.
It has stopped me from going to races though. I had friends who didn’t believe I was passing on going to the track. I offered them to go golfing for the afternoon. Ended up being a darn good time. Looked up the race winner the next morning. It was just fine.
How the hell do you lose half your viewership in four years? It makes no sense, especially since the stupid point changes started in 04. Something is fishy with these numbers, doesn't seem intuitive.
That's depressing, but the staggering decline of nearly 40% and nearly 50% in 18-49 is what happens when a race moves from NBC to NBCSN. It seems that minus 15-20% is the baseline this year. A move from cable to network will erase that, a move from network to cable doubles it.
I hope more people will eventually take to heart that 'good racing' and 'more short tracks' are an entirely separate concern from TV ratings. They have almost nothing to do with each other. What several online polls found to be the best race of the year just posted what may be the biggest TV audience decline of the year.
you guess wrong I am afraid. The ratings had been declining even before Gordon and Earnhardt left.Just weeding out the fans there were only there for Earnhardt or Gordon I guess.
you guess wrong I am afraid. The ratings had been declining even before Gordon and Earnhardt left.
from sportsmediawatch.com
NASCAR Bristol Ratings Lowest in Memory
NASCAR Bristol ratings were the lowest in at least 20 years.
Saturday’s NASCAR Cup Series Bristol Night Race earned a 1.4 rating and 2.33 million viewers on NBCSN, down 39% in ratings and viewership from last year on the NBC broadcast network (2.3. 3.82M) and down a third and 36% respectively from 2015, the last time it aired as scheduled on NBCSN (2.1, 3.61M).
Kurt Busch‘s win was the lowest rated edition of the race in at least 20 years and the least-watched since at least 2000. That includes the 2016 race, which was postponed a day due to rain and had a 1.5 and 2.7 million on CNBC.
this is not a decline anymore, this is a collapse...and still for next year we are going to get 'more of the same'....It's insane....
you guess wrong I am afraid. The ratings had been declining even before Gordon and Earnhardt left.
from sportsmediawatch.com
NASCAR Bristol Ratings Lowest in Memory
NASCAR Bristol ratings were the lowest in at least 20 years.
Saturday’s NASCAR Cup Series Bristol Night Race earned a 1.4 rating and 2.33 million viewers on NBCSN, down 39% in ratings and viewership from last year on the NBC broadcast network (2.3. 3.82M) and down a third and 36% respectively from 2015, the last time it aired as scheduled on NBCSN (2.1, 3.61M).
Kurt Busch‘s win was the lowest rated edition of the race in at least 20 years and the least-watched since at least 2000. That includes the 2016 race, which was postponed a day due to rain and had a 1.5 and 2.7 million on CNBC.
this is not a decline anymore, this is a collapse...and still for next year we are going to get 'more of the same'....It's insane....
reminds me of the drunk that shot the bird every time Earnhardt drove by.
I wonder how much the "cable cutting" has impacted the ratings? When we are traveling I usually watch via the Internet. My son got fed up with paying $150 a month for cable and does not get NBCSN. There are a lot of people switching to Internet and over the air channels. It has to impact the ratings some
There isn't much of a car culture compared to years ago either