NASCAR to reward regular season champ

Revman said:
Could you please explain to me how the hell this shows that the Chase is ridiculous? He didn't freakin' win. He won't win the Championship. The system has proven you right. Am I missing something?
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Kyle Larson has a very solid record at Chase tracks. If he didn't get knocked out by some bull**** last weekend, he could have taken the whole enchilada. That is a 15th place team this year... And he could have won the championship... Which based on points, should be leaning towards Harvick or Kez.


It doesn't matter, Truex is going to win and the 78 will deserve it.
 
DUN24 said:
Kyle Larson has a very solid record at Chase tracks. If he didn't get knocked out by some bull**** last weekend, he could have taken the whole enchilada. That is a 15th place team this year... And he could have won the championship... Which based on points, should be leaning towards Harvick or Kez.


It doesn't matter, Truex is going to win and the 78 will deserve it.
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Could have, but didn't. Points don't mean sh!t. The game has changed. Where is that Denny Hamlin R&D thread when I need it. It would be less effort to just accept the Chase as is, and enjoy the racing. Sure has worked for me.

In reference to the 78...you have proven the Chase credible within an argument against it. Confusing.
 
Zerkfitting said:
As I recall in the pre-Chase days the points leaders were mostly protecting their positions for the last 2 months of the season.
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Now, come on, what place does reality have on this board? Just stop it.
 
This is the system that crowns a champion. I understand that long time fans are conditioned to think that a season long performance is deserving of a championship (,which it is), but that is 12 years gone.

"Champion" in racing is the points leader at the end of the season. Regardless of how screwy the system is, the champion is still as.much a champion as any other team. They are still beating the competition.

It's not just NASCAR. It's 2016 guys. Look at all sports. Every sport now is a blatant product to be sold. NASCAR has made business and marketing decisions to keep up with the general short attention span of us Americans. They are appealing to society and the business industry as a whole to further market the product.

I've found peace in that and can enjoy the chase for what it is.

That being said, I always felt regular season performance should be rewarded.

I say, keep the format with wins. give the regular season champ a spot in the final four. Runner up gets into round of 8. Third gets a by into round of 12.
 
DUN24 said:
Kyle Larson has a very solid record at Chase tracks. If he didn't get knocked out by some bull**** last weekend, he could have taken the whole enchilada. That is a 15th place team this year... And he could have won the championship... Which based on points, should be leaning towards Harvick or Kez.


It doesn't matter, Truex is going to win and the 78 will deserve it.
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Eh, you acknowledged your bias :p, maybe it's skewing your perspective? Larson doesn't have the speed this year to compete with the fast guys. He could have had a flawless chase, still likely wouldn't make it to the final four
 
I'd probably say, give the regular season points leader a bye into the Round of 12, and guaranteed 1st pit stall selection throughout the chase (as long as they're still in). Guaranteed 1st pit stall selection throughout as well for NXS & NCWTS regular season points leaders.

I really don't mind Chase Grid idea, until you get down to idea of:

-Talladega being a Round of 12 elimination race (luckily changing)
-5/10 tracks in Sprint Cup Chase being cookie cutters
-No road course in the Round of 16
-Homestead/Championship 4 should be 500 miles

NXS Chase - 5/7 races are at cookie cutters, 12 could be argued as too many

NCWTS Chase - Don't think their Chase is too bad, maybe Homestead being 250 miles
 
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AuzGrams said:
I'd probably say, give the regular season points leader a bye into the Round of 12, and guaranteed 1st pit stall selection throughout the chase (as long as they're still in). Guaranteed 1st pit stall selection throughout as well for NXS & NCWTS regular season points leaders.

I really don't mind Chase Grid idea, until you get down to idea of:

-Talladega being a Round of 12 elimination race (luckily changing)
-5/10 tracks in Sprint Cup Chase being cookie cutters
-No road course in the Round of 16
-Homestead/Championship 4 should be 500 miles

NXS Chase - 5/7 races are at cookie cutters, 12 could be argued as too many

NCWTS Chase - Don't think their Chase is too bad, maybe Homestead being 250 miles
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Well 2/3 of the tracks are cookie cutters. Having 5 of the chase tracks as cookie cutters seems fair to me
 
jaqua19 said:
Well 2/3 of the tracks are cookie cutters. Having 5 of the chase tracks as cookie cutters seems fair to me
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Atlanta
Charlotte (2 races)
Chicagoland
Homestead-Miami
Kansas (2 races)
Kentucky
Las Vegas
Texas (2 races)

11/36 races are cookie cutter races. 14/36 if you include Auto Club & Michigan.

Swapping out Chicago back to a summer night race (ISC) for Watkins Glen (ISC) makes sense.

A Chase schedule of:
Watkins Glen
New Hampshire
Charlotte (back to a day race again preferably)
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Dover
Talladega
Kansas
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Martinsville
Texas
Phoenix
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Homestead-Miami (500 miles)

Would make things a lot better as far as a true motorsport playoff would go, IMO.
 
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AuzGrams said:
Atlanta
Charlotte (2 races)
Chicagoland
Homestead-Miami
Kansas (2 races)
Kentucky
Las Vegas
Texas (2 races)

11/36 races are cookie cutter races. 14/36 if you include Auto Club & Michigan.

Swapping out Chicago back to a summer night race (ISC) for Watkins Glen (ISC) makes sense.

A Chase schedule of:
Watkins Glen
New Hampshire
Charlotte (back to a day race again preferably)
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Dover
Talladega
Kansas
---
Martinsville
Texas
Phoenix
---
Homestead-Miami (500 miles)

Would make things a lot better as far as a true motorsport playoff would go, IMO.
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Not sure what statistic I was mixing up then.. was it that 2/3 of the season is on cookie cutter tracks?

I like your suggestion a lot.

Talladega is entertaining, but so much luck is needed there. If it were my choice, I'd probably pull it from the chase, or swap it with the Glen
 
DUN24 said:
Kyle Larson has a very solid record at Chase tracks. If he didn't get knocked out by some bull**** last weekend, he could have taken the whole enchilada. That is a 15th place team this year... And he could have won the championship... Which based on points, should be leaning towards Harvick or Kez.


It doesn't matter, Truex is going to win and the 78 will deserve it.
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Kyle Larson winning the championship via "being good at Chase tracks" would imply that he deserves the championship on merit
 
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