Newman gets screwed by Tony and company.

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LOUDON, N.H. - Ryan Newman says he’s unsure where he’ll be next year after Tony Stewart told him Wednesday that it won’t be with Stewart-Haas Racing.

“I can’t say that I’m happy with how everything unfolded,’’ Newman said Friday at New Hampshire Motor Speedway. “I know that there are business decisions.’’

Budweiser announced Friday morning that it would sponsor Kevin Harvick for 20 races at Stewart-Haas Racing next year. That led to Stewart saying a couple of hours later that Newman would not be back because the team is not ready to expand to four cars. Newman signed a one-year contract extension in September.

“The No. 1 thing when Ryan and I spoke, our friendships will not change,’’ Stewart said. “This was a business decision that was (co-owner) Gene (Haas’) as well as mine’s. It was a hard decision. For Ryan and I, we had to put the personal side apart and work through the business part. I’ll do everything I can to help Ryan in any way I can ... in his effort to find a team next year. I believe in him 100 percent. I truly wish we were able to facilitate four teams at this time. We’re just not able to do that.’’

Newman said he and Stewart talked for about 20 minutes Wednesday when Stewart told Newman that he won’t be retained. Newman said the decision won’t affect their friendship.

“We’ve only ever argued over how hard we race, and that’s the kind of friends Tony and I are,’’ Newman said. “We have a great friendship, and I look forward to keeping that.’’

Newman said he had “no idea’’ when asked if he had commitments from any sponsors to follow him to a new ride.

“I want to be some place that I’m wanted,’’ said Newman, who has been with Stewart-Haas Racing since 2009 and won three races. “I want to be wanted for my abilities and the desires we have as common goals to win the championship.

“There are organizations out there that are capable of winning championships and capable of racing into the Chase. It’s obvious there are seats moving around, becoming available or potentially becoming available.’’

For the uncertainty he faces, Newman admits that he didn’t have an idea of what he’d be doing at this time a year ago with his contract expiring.

Newman has made the Chase in two of his four previous with Stewart-Haas Racing. He is 16th in the points heading into Sunday’s race.

“We had a brand-new team when we started this season,’’ Newman said. “Matt Borland was an experienced crew chief. Our entire organization within the 39 side was brand new. A lot of guys had never even come to a Cup garage before. That’s been a learning process for us, and I think it slowed us down a little bit. We’re not out of this Chase. I’ve been really focused on this year more so than next year.’’

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The whole thing stinks, IMO. If SHR knew they wouldn't go to 4 teams, why wait this long to tell Newman he was being pushed out because they would rather have Harvick in the 3rd car? It seems that Ryan and his sponsors were kept to help defray costs if Harvicks car needed a bit of self funding.

I bet the next hammer to fall is an announcement that Newmans sponsor will jump to Harvicks car.

IF Tony really wanted Newman, why did he sign Harvick? Looks like Tony screwed another 'friend'.
 
The whole thing stinks, IMO. If SHR knew they wouldn't go to 4 teams, why wait this long to tell Newman he was being pushed out because they would rather have Harvick in the 3rd car? It seems that Ryan and his sponsors were kept to help defray costs if Harvicks car needed a bit of self funding.

I bet the next hammer to fall is an announcement that Newmans sponsor will jump to Harvicks car.

IF Tony really wanted Newman, why did he sign Harvick? Looks like Tony screwed another 'friend'.
Like I have said before it could have been because Tony wanted to make sure he couldn't find sponsorship for Newman.
 
IF Tony really wanted Newman, why did he sign Harvick? Looks like Tony screwed another 'friend'.

Business. Harvick in the car is far more attractive to sponsors than Newman.

If your a sponsor and you could go with

Driver A) 10 wins, chase birth every year but 1, finished in the top 5 three times since 2009.

Driver B) 3 wins, 2 chase births, highest finish of 9th since 2009.

Who are you going to choose?
 
nah, I'm going to keep the guy, don't want to make anyone mad, hey they will all still like me when I go out of business, no problem here.:)
 
I find it quite hard to believe that Newman was shocked that he'd no longer be with SHR after this year. It was all but confirmed Harvick was coming over, adding a 4th team when SHR has fallen behind because of adding a third team was unlikely at best.. Newman and his management should have been proactive way before the official announcement.
 
Business. Harvick in the car is far more attractive to sponsors than Newman.

If your a sponsor and you could go with

Driver A) 10 wins, chase birth every year but 1, finished in the top 5 three times since 2009.

Driver B) 3 wins, 2 chase births, highest finish of 9th since 2009.

Who are you going to choose?


Driver C) 0 wins, 0 top five finishes, one top 10 and will likely never win a race and never make the Chase.
 
You forgot about the part with driver C where she's more attractive to sponsors than A and B both, definitely B, because she's a female, her popularity, and the hype around her. Plus the other part where she's probably making the owners more than driver B in merchandise and marketing alone. Is it right? Probably not, but like I said, it's business.
 
He won't be without a ride for long. I see him in the 11 before the end of the year at the rate Denny is going. Maybe childress will pick him up.
 
I find it quite hard to believe that Newman was shocked that he'd no longer be with SHR after this year. It was all but confirmed Harvick was coming over, adding a 4th team when SHR has fallen behind because of adding a third team was unlikely at best.. Newman and his management should have been proactive way before the official announcement.

BINGO, remember a few weeks back when kurt busch slipped up and said well me and newman are both looking for rides next year. There is alot more talk behind the scenes than you guys think. drivers are always talking to other owners etc. I contend newman knew this a long time ago. further don't blame tony for anything. SHR hasn't done well with 3 teams much less 4. I don't think they want to buy cars and motors from hendrick and still run 4 cars. I think they feel the need to build that stuff themselves before expanding. and besides we have no idea what newman's sponsorship next year would have been I suspect the current sponsorship on newman's car has been heavily discounted. I liken it to the deal with the 17 car, they didn't have the money and commitments to retain kenseth. FACE IT NEWMAN ISN'T THE MOST MARKETABLE COMMODITY. thats not something that can be overlooked like it used to be when sponsorship was much easier to get.
 
I think that Newman would be a decent choice for any organization who may be able to add another team. Gibbs, Roush or Penske come to mind.
 
Kick Danica out. I don't give a damn about marketability, I care about positive race results which fuels a good reputation, which creates marketability in the end. Danica has neither and never will. Between Hendrick picking up and keeping talentless Dale Jr and Tony kicking Newman out to afford Shamica, tshirts are obviously more important than racing.
 
Kick Danica out. I don't give a damn about marketability, I care about positive race results which fuels a good reputation, which creates marketability in the end. Danica has neither and never will. Between Hendrick picking up and keeping talentless Dale Jr and Tony kicking Newman out to afford Shamica, tshirts are obviously more important than racing.

I want to agree, but you cannot beat cubic dollars, you have to have the $ . I respect Newman, I bet Tony.doess too but that doesnt pay for the incredible cost.

I agree with some others, Newman shouldn't be surprised, but knowing and feeling the reality is two seperate qualities.. You may know a loved one will pass soon and think you know what to expect, but when it really happens you discover that you are still unprepared.
The analogy could be in effect.
 
Kick Danica out. I don't give a damn about marketability, I care about positive race results which fuels a good reputation, which creates marketability in the end. Danica has neither and never will. Between Hendrick picking up and keeping talentless Dale Jr and Tony kicking Newman out to afford Shamica, tshirts are obviously more important than racing.

Um , the Danica haters club have their own thread , please don't spread that crap around . We don't need to see it on every thread.
 
Driver C) 0 wins, 0 top five finishes, one top 10 and will likely never win a race and never make the Chase.

Yay, a guy who actually gets it.

If Tony really respected Ryan, he would have told him he's gone when Harvick arrives. Instead, he grabs the GoDaddy cash and pushes Ryan closer to the door, then signs his buddy Kevin and sticks Ryan with an inexperienced (inexpensive) team and hobbles his chances of getting a ride, and compounds it all by waiting until midseason to tell Ryan to start looking. Sure sounds like they didn't want Ryan taking any sponsors with him.
 
I think that Newman would be a decent choice for any organization who may be able to add another team. Gibbs, Roush or Penske come to mind.

Penske may take him for a year or 2 to help set up a cup team for when Blaney arrives, but if SHR grabbed his sponsors for Harvicks car, I doubt Newman gets a quality ride again.
 
Driver C) 0 wins, 0 top five finishes, one top 10 and will likely never win a race and never make the Chase.

Driver C completely funded for every race she has run in cup.

Driver B sponsored by SHR several races for a lack of other funding.

As much as this stinks for Newman, it was a sound business decision.
 
Business. Harvick in the car is far more attractive to sponsors than Newman.

If your a sponsor and you could go with

Driver A) 10 wins, chase birth every year but 1, finished in the top 5 three times since 2009.

Driver B) 3 wins, 2 chase births, highest finish of 9th since 2009.

Who are you going to choose?

Driver C) 0 wins, 0 top five finishes, one top 10 and will likely never win a race and never make the Chase.

You forgot about the part with driver C where she's more attractive to sponsors than A and B both, definitely B, because she's a female, her popularity, and the hype around her. Plus the other part where she's probably making the owners more than driver B in merchandise and marketing alone. Is it right? Probably not, but like I said, it's business.

Driver C completely funded for every race she has run in cup.

Driver B sponsored by SHR several races for a lack of other funding.

As much as this stinks for Newman, it was a sound business decision.

This thread has lost me.

I need to brush up on my alphabet . . .
 
Tony Stewart 2013 average finish: 17.5

Ryan Newman 2013 average finish: 18

SHR isn't exactly tearing up the racetrack, and the Harvick move has been in the silly season talks for some time now. As someone posted already, Harvick wins in the driver comparison v Newman.
 
Tony Stewart 2013 average finish: 17.5

Ryan Newman 2013 average finish: 18

SHR isn't exactly tearing up the racetrack, and the Harvick move has been in the silly season talks for some time now. As someone posted already, Harvick wins in the driver comparison v Newman.

The expansion to a 3 car team and the gen 6 car had taken its toll on SHR.
 
No matter how you slice it, Tony didn't do the right thing by Newman while keeping his decision secret for so long. He surely knew at the start of the season SHR wouldn't go to 4 teams, and he sure as hell wasn't going to dump Danica or get out of the car himself when he signed Harvick. THAT was the time to tell all this to his 'dear friend' Ryan Newman.
 
I don't like it, but I understand it. Maybe the way Tony went about dismissing Newman was less than ideal, but I was 90% sure as soon as SHR committed to Harvick in 2014 that Newman would be the odd man out. I still have a hard time envisioning him at RCR next year as some have suggested, with the Dillon brothers waiting in the wings. I'm afraid whatever ride he gets in '14 will be a downgrade.
 
I knew last year that Ryan was leaving . I'm kickin myself now for not e mailing him . I thought he would have known , heck , we all knew . I hope that he didn't just buy a new Chevy.
 
No matter how you slice it, Tony didn't do the right thing by Newman while keeping his decision secret for so long. He surely knew at the start of the season SHR wouldn't go to 4 teams, and he sure as hell wasn't going to dump Danica or get out of the car himself when he signed Harvick. THAT was the time to tell all this to his 'dear friend' Ryan Newman.

Your right, Stewart should have cut his losses last year and let Newman go then rather than signing him to a one year contract.
 
Penske may take him for a year or 2 to help set up a cup team for when Blaney arrives, but if SHR grabbed his sponsors for Harvicks car, I doubt Newman gets a quality ride again.

Think I read somewhere that Hornish would get the nod over Newman if Penske went to three teams.
 
It looks like he has interest from several notable owners, so I think he ends up alright. He's one of the top "free agent" drivers for sure.
 
Hmmmmmm.... looks like a copied and pasted article with no provided link.. I seem to recall being told recently that's not allowed.. ;)
 
Your right, Stewart should have cut his losses last year and let Newman go then rather than signing him to a one year contract.

How can you say I'm right when I never said any such thing? o_O

YOU said that, not me. :rolleyes:

I knew last year that Ryan was leaving . I'm kickin myself now for not e mailing him . I thought he would have known , heck , we all knew . I hope that he didn't just buy a new Chevy.

Even before Ryan knew? THIS is why Teddy amazes us each and every day. :p
 
He had to wait for Harvick... he's all about the cash lol.. I'd think after he hired the cookie monster everyone would know that. (cookie monster is what we call Danica here.. she should be off the track and in the kitchen making Tony cookies)
 
How can you say I'm right when I never said any such thing? o_O

YOU said that, not me. :rolleyes:



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How can you say I'm right when I never said any such thing? o_O

YOU said that, not me. :rolleyes:

You said "Tony didn't do the right thing by Newman while keeping his decision secret for so long."

I agree. Tony shouldn't have kept it secret and should have cut Newman loose last year....
 
He had to wait for Harvick... he's all about the cash lol.. I'd think after he hired the cookie monster everyone would know that. (cookie monster is what we call Danica here.. she should be off the track and in the kitchen making Tony cookies)

lol 2 birds with one cookie. Nicely done. :cheers:
 
He had to wait for Harvick... he's all about the cash lol.. I'd think after he hired the cookie monster everyone would know that. (cookie monster is what we call Danica here.. she should be off the track and in the kitchen making Tony cookies)
Wow. Welcome to the 1950s. What a jackass. Seriously. Jackass.
 
I don't think Tony should have cut Ryan loose last year, but just tell the guy straight up which way the wind is blowing so he can go find sponsorship and a ride ASAP.
 
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