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I thought you brought the Browns up because that's where Belichick coached and got fired. Of course he wouldn't be as good, no one would be. It doesn't change that he's the GOAT. No other QB even in consideration for the GOAT has played the duration of their career for a team like the current Browns.

Nah, thought of the Browns as the other day Andy said Brady could take the Browns to the Super Bow and win.

But it's part of what I said, you got to have good players around you as well, good coaching. Which is why I say it's hard to pick a GOAT in a sport that's about teamwork because you can have a great QB and **** receivers(don't got to be Hall of Fame ones either, just ones who are good or great) and you can't have a **** QB and amazing receivers. I respect his talents, as much as I dislike the guy if they made a MT Rushmore of QB's or just NFL Players in General, he would surely be on it and rightfully so.
 
If Brady and Rodgers were even close in terms of playoff production, I could see an argument. They are so far apart.
Why is it difficult for some to understand this is a team game? Put Rodgers in the situation Brady got and I see a better career than what Brady has.
 
Why is it difficult for some to understand this is a team game? Put Rodgers in the situation Brady got and I see a better career than what Brady has.
No way, Rodgers has had just as good or better teams around him and hasn't won a Superbowl.
 
No way, Rodgers has had just as good or better teams around him and hasn't won a Superbowl.
You don't have a clue. How many top defenses has brady had? Aaron had one top 5 defense ever and they won it all.
 
No way, Rodgers has had just as good or better teams around him and hasn't won a Superbowl.

If Green Bay ever had a defense as consistent as the Pats.

Name someone outside of Jordy Nelson who really set themselves apart? The offense is predicated around Rodgers, it was seen this year that Green Bay has major issues.
 
If Green Bay ever had a defense as consistent as the Pats.

Name someone outside of Jordy Nelson who really set themselves apart? The offense is predicated around Rodgers, it was seen this year that Green Bay has major issues.
Davante Adams? Greg Jennings? Donald Driver? All have been productive without Rodgers..
 
Hard to believe, out of that QB class, Bortles is the main man standing.

Can you believe they are a few people who put money on the Jags at the start of the year?? One of them just 5 days after the last Super Bowl, was reading about this earlier. If the Jags are able to win the Super Bowl this year dude's gonna bank $99,000
 
But, but, but, this forum keeps telling me the Patriots are good because they have a bunch of All Pro Hall of Fame Wide Receivers, not because of Thomas.
 
You don't have a clue. How many top defenses has brady had? Aaron had one top 5 defense ever and they won it all.
The facts don't support your narrative.

Total D ranks

2017: Packers 22

Pats 29

2016

Packers 22

Pats 8

2015

Packers 15

Pats 9

2014

Packers 15

Pats 13

2013

Packers 25

Pats 26

2012

Packers 11

Pats 25

2011
Packers 32

Pats 31

2010

Packers 5

Pats 25

2009

Packers 2

Pats 11

2008

Packers 20

Pats 10
 
But, but, but, this forum keeps telling me the Patriots are good because they have a bunch of All Pro Hall of Fame Wide Receivers, not because of Thomas.

I mean I never said top rank all pro hall of fame lol. I just said they were pretty good. But keep thinking you know what people are saying.
 
So an Aaron Rodgers offense tends to rank high? I wonder why
LOL

So much disrespect for the dude. He's literally had a Top 10 defense behind him once in his career. People on here acting like there isn't an entirely different unit that's on the field half of the game.
 
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