Penske buys IMS, Indy Car

Discussion in 'NASCAR chat' started by superchuck500, Nov 4, 2019.

  1. AuzGrams

    AuzGrams Team Owner

    It hasn't stopped me either but we aren't casual NASCAR/race fans.

    And by optics I mean a frontstretch that is relatively full. I realize that they are not getting a full house anymore, but they can maximize a way to get the frontstretch relatively full and back to 60-75K like many of the other crown jewel races (Daytona 500, Talladega, Bristol Night Race, Coke 600 still do that from what I see). It looked like there was a fair amount of people in the grandstands under the shade this year.
  2. Formerjackman

    Formerjackman Team Owner

    It's going to take a lot more than 75,000 people to make the front stretch at Indy look full. Once again I will point out that the track is in residential area. The bright lights and the noise IS going to be an issue with the neighbors, and then you are going to dump the race traffic into city streets, and pretty much everything to the east is through less than stellar neighborhoods.
  3. Charlie Spencer

    Charlie Spencer Short tracks and road courses.

    Not to mention the best seats are in the corners and will always sell first. That won't help make the front stretch look full. Of course, they could sell only the front grandstands, and then lose those people who know the view from there sucks.

    Memorial Day is often a scorcher but the I500 overflows anyway. That's the one all the casual sports fans in the area want to attend.

    If NASCAR wants the front stretch to look full, they'll have to sell 'em in bulk to the Boy Scouts or give the seats away to the USO.
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  4. Truex_rox

    Truex_rox 19 looks better than ever.

  5. Nitro Dude

    Nitro Dude Hauler Driver and Cylinder Head Maintenance

    I couldn't be more excited to see that the captain has purchased my favorite track and racing series. I think if anyone can make IMS more exciting it would be Mr Penske. I would love to see lights go up and Cup cars run a night race there.
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    Snappy D 2017 Pick Em Champion 2018 Bold Predictor

  7. jws926

    jws926 I need to think of something new for here

    I will admit, I am disappointed that RP buying the whole lot means that dropping IMS from the Cup schedule is now probably not never going to happen, I am just not a fan of this track for stock cars( I am not a open wheel one bit so there is that too).

    But reading above, making it a night race might change my mind a bit .
  8. StandOnIt

    StandOnIt Farm Truck

    I hear that. Just about anything Penske does will be an improvement. The George bunch hasn't done one thing I can think of to improve stock cars racing there.
  9. jws926

    jws926 I need to think of something new for here

    I agree, I can see Roger making changes that will improve things, so it will be interesting to see what happens.
  10. Mispeedway15

    Mispeedway15 Team Owner

    Its not. Honestly **** this talk guys, how about the looming formula change upcoming by the old staff.

    900 HP is F1 levels so it will be very interesting to see the massive changes 2021 brings and how Roger brings it in smoothly. It would not shock me at all to see parity come way down with so much power to be handled by these V6’s
  11. Formerjackman

    Formerjackman Team Owner

    What has ISC or SMI really done to improve racing at their tracks? Most of what has been done (Bristol, Texas) just made it worse. Indy shouldn't make any track changes to suit NASCAR any more than Daytona should knock down the banking to suit running Indy cars there. I will also point out that the George family spent a HUGE sum of money just to HAVE NASCAR there, including rebuilding all of the walls and catch fences and making changes to pit road. They also spent a ridiculous amount of money to host Formulas One, and have reconfigured the road course multiple times to try to suit whatever series is using it at the time. The road course still sucks, but it's not from a lack of effort. NOBODY has ever spent as much on their facility as the George's have. Roger Penske (and ISC after him) have never even managed to put up decent (or enough) garages at Michigan.
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  12. aunty dive

    aunty dive Team Owner

    It’s very simple.

    There is no better steward of this historically significant racing facility than Roger Penske.
  13. StandOnIt

    StandOnIt Farm Truck

    say it ain't so, the Indy series were pioneers for the safer barrier and first used for the INDY series.. BTW Nascar's first race at Indy was in 94, the safer barriers were installed in 2002. So I guess one could argue they were put there for Nascar's benefit. Now me, I look at an Indycar and I look at a full bodied Nascar, and I think I will go with those were installed for Indycar's benefit and they worked so well that other series including Nascar started installing them on their tracks.

    Dean Sicking
    It was designed by a team of engineers led by Dean Sicking at the Midwest Roadside Safety Facility at the University of Nebraska-Lincoln. It was developed from 1998–2002, and first installed at the Indianapolis Motor Speedway in May 2002.
    SAFER barrier - Wikipedia › wiki › SAFER_barrier
  14. Formerjackman

    Formerjackman Team Owner

    I'm not talking about the Safer Barriers, I'm talking about 2 1/2 miles of concrete retaining wall, which if you know something about the history of the wall structure at Indy was no small task, and it was replaced with a taller thicker one topped with much heavier duty catch fence to contain cars weighing twice as much. The outer pit wall was also completely replaced, as was the scoring pylon and numerous other upgrades. And as long as we are talking about Safer barriers, they went all in instead of the cheap ass incomplete way that ISC and SMI did, meaning that over a decade later, drivers like Kyle Busch were still getting hurt, and it's a small miracle Jeff Gordon wasn't killed at Las Vegas.
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  15. Ventisca

    Ventisca Team Owner

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  16. be9ak7ts16

    be9ak7ts16 Johali Lives

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  17. be9ak7ts16

    be9ak7ts16 Johali Lives

    Hopefully Penske can take the mess Indy Cars has become and make it a worthy series again.
  18. Mispeedway15

    Mispeedway15 Team Owner

    My only thing with Indy is they’re gonna have to replace Push to Pass with the horsepower increase in ‘21. Some of these road courses are going to have absolutely no passing opportunities running with that much steam unless they do a DRS
  19. gnomesayin

    gnomesayin Team Owner

    They aren't removing push-to-pass and the last announcements were that the new engine formula (now slated for 2022) will increase the HP boost of push-to-pass.
  20. Charlie Spencer

    Charlie Spencer Short tracks and road courses.

    Ya know, a good place to watch races at IMS is over there in the middle of that yard of bricks. The best view is if you lie down 'cause that puts your sight line directly in line with the cars. Go ahead, give it a try. :D
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  21. Mispeedway15

    Mispeedway15 Team Owner

    Hmm hope it works. IMO more HP works in NASCAR bc on a shorter track aero matters less so contact can be made. Can’t really bump and run with Indycars
  22. Mike Crayne

    Mike Crayne Team Owner

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