Penske switching to Ford in 2013

Greg said:
Good move for Ford and Penske. Ford needs more than one powerhouse, to many eggs in one basket.


I doubt that HMS and RCR trade Bowtie secrets, Penske will figure out how to run fast Fords with or without Rousch
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i hope
 
Any chance that Penske switches brands before the end of the year for Brad and/or AJ?

Any chance that Penske puts Sam Hornish in a DORF in 2012?
 
robbybee said:
Any chance that Penske switches brands before the end of the year for Brad and/or AJ?

Any chance that Penske puts Sam Hornish in a DORF in 2012?
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No, they have a contract. It was interesting listening to the Ford rep on race hub. He listed some Ford teams a couple of times, but never mentioned RPM.
 
I bet when brad n aj switch ford,they lose alot of followers,,,,,,,,,,,,I know of one.
 
FenderBumper said:
No, they have a contract.
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Contracts can be bought out - and Roger can afford to buy his way out of ANY contract.

I say that if Brad and/or AJ is not in the Chase, Penske puts them in FORDS after race 26.

I also think that Sam Hornish will make multiple appearances in a Penske FORD before the end of the year.
 
robbybee said:
Contracts can be bought out - and Roger can afford to buy his way out of ANY contract.

I say that if Brad and/or AJ is not in the Chase, Penske puts them in FORDS after race 26.

I also think that Sam Hornish will make multiple appearances in a Penske FORD before the end of the year.
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Since it's new cars for 2013.I see Penske building 2013 Fords to test this year when the others do but still stay in the Dodges for this year
 
robbybee said:
Contracts can be bought out - and Roger can afford to buy his way out of ANY contract.

I say that if Brad and/or AJ is not in the Chase, Penske puts them in FORDS after race 26.

I also think that Sam Hornish will make multiple appearances in a Penske FORD before the end of the year.
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They would be throwing away their season, and sponsors don't like that sort of thing. Letting Penske run away as fast as he can isn't a scene Dodge would be happy to oblige. If they don't make the chase, I guess it could be an outside shot.

mike honcho said:
Since it's new cars for 2013.I see Penske building 2013 Fords to test this year when the others do but still stay in the Dodges for this year
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I doubt Ford and teams or Dodge would agree to have a possible information channel to their competitor. I think RPM will jump in the Dodge void, IF they plan to stay in nascar.
 
I think that Dodge did a remarkable job with a very tiny presence in Nascar over the last ten years or so .The loss of Penske is the open door to exit from Nascar for the time being .They have allowed their footprint in Nascar to fall to fouth place (behind Toyota) and either wouldn't or couldn't stop the bleeding.Even if they could get Petty and Ganassi on board ,it would be far too little... too late. Good bye and good luck ..hope to see you back in Nascar someday.
 
ted@economy said:
I think that Dodge did a remarkable job with a very tiny presence in Nascar over the last ten years or so .The loss of Penske is the open door to exit from Nascar for the time being .They have allowed their footprint in Nascar to fall to fouth place (behind Toyota) and either wouldn't or couldn't stop the bleeding.Even if they could get Petty and Ganassi on board ,it would be far too little... too late. Good bye and good luck ..hope to see you back in Nascar someday.
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If they could have gotten EGR and RPM, Penske wouldn't have left. They may get RPM and a bunch of small teams and try to build for the future.
 
FenderBumper said:
If they could have gotten EGR and RPM, Penske wouldn't have left. They may get RPM and a bunch of small teams and try to build for the future.
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Way too little and way too late.They would ,at least , need Stewart Haas and Gibbs.
 
Roger “The term was important to us. We wanted a long-term deal because I have to make commitments to sponsors. Obviously with drivers today, you can’t just hire a driver at the last minute, so I think some of those things came into play. ... This was a business decision.”

I wonder what he meant by that.
 
I'd lmao if RPM went to dodge n kicked BK N AJ's butts next year
 
I can almost see RPM going back to Dodge but without their own engine shop anymore I think Dodge will have to put into that operation than they really want to.They don't even build their own chassis anymore either?Right.
 
FenderBumper said:
If they could have gotten EGR and RPM, Penske wouldn't have left. They may get RPM and a bunch of small teams and try to build for the future.
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Plus ...how do you build ? You would need some new teams starting like the Red Bull deal and some smaller teams like Tommy Baldwin and Robbie Gordon upping their status to two and three car teams. That stuff just isn't happening in todays economy. (notice how I worked in economy?)Too bad..so sad
 
mike honcho said:
I can almost see RPM going back to Dodge but without their own engine shop anymore I think Dodge will have to put into that operation than they really want to.They don't even build their own chassis anymore either?Right.
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Good point. RPM is like a skeleton of what they were.
 
ted@economy said:
Plus ...how do you build ? You would need some new teams starting like the Red Bull deal and some smaller teams like Tommy Baldwin and Robbie Gordon upping their status to two and three car teams. That stuff just isn't happening in todays economy. (notice how I worked in economy?)Too bad..so sad
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All good points. If they really want to stay in nascar, they have a huge hill to climb. They could pick a decent organization and go all out factor team with them.
 
FenderBumper said:
All good points. If they really want to stay in nascar, they have a huge hill to climb. They could pick a decent organization and go all out factor team with them.
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Really ...they did that with Penske and did a valient job .It just can't go any farther without several big teams jumping on board and that's not going to happen.I'm sure the parting with Penske was mutual .Stick a fork in em, they're done.
 
ted@economy said:
Really ...they did that with Penske and did a valient job .It just can't go any farther without several big teams jumping on board and that's not going to happen.I'm sure the parting with Penske was mutual .Stick a fork in em, they're done.
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Not really. I'm talking about a TRD type setup but taken even further. Engines, wind tunnel, etc, done by Dodge. But losing Penske is a huge blow. Roger has seen Newman and Kurt leave, and he knows Brad is too smart to hang around if he can't get him a championship with Dodge.
 
FenderBumper said:
All good points. If they really want to stay in nascar, they have a huge hill to climb. They could pick a decent organization and go all out factor team with them.
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First of all though they need to look for a team that builds their own chassis.All the little teams buy their chassis from the bigger ones.Now that their will be no Dodge teams that do.How will the little teams get the chassis to put the Dodge stuff on?I don't think Dodge factory wants to get into building chassis also.
 
mike honcho said:
First of all though they need to look for a team that builds their own chassis.All the little teams buy their chassis from the bigger ones.Now that their will be no Dodge teams that do.How will the little teams get the chassis to put the Dodge stuff on?I don't think Dodge factory wants to get into building chassis also.
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I believe Roger has a bunch available. ;)

Yeah, they're toast.
 
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