They were 50/50, pretty evenly skilled drivers when it came to stock cars. I think the biggest differences in performance came with JPM having the upper-hand at the road courses, and Jamie being a pretty good plate racer.
You have to wonder though if JPM would have gotten better if he stuck around longer; the transition from open wheel takes time. He may well have stayed in Nascar longer had he been with a better team and had more success. Who knows.
But they are $100,000 richer after that race. Not a bad payday.
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I agree that Chase won a championship and he is the most popular driver, which in turn makes him more marketable. But I don't agree that he has single handedly carried HMS for the past 4 years. Bowman has contributed a lot to HMS also and has been in the playoffs every year he has been there. He has taken over the driving duties for a multi time most popular driver and a 7 time champion, and he has done a pretty decent job representing HMS. Larson wasn't at HMS so he can't really be compared with Elliott. All of that other stuff happened in 2020 and earlier and this is 2021 and it is what have you done for me lately... and Larson has won 4 races "three in a row" for HMS lately... and Elliott has won 1. That doesn't mean Elliott won't have a hot streak later during the playoffs and close out the season with another championship... but Larson, Bowman, or Byron could also. This is definitely going to be an interesting season for any fans of any of the HMS drivers.
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Don't forget about the incessant cheerleading. As if Gordon doesn't do enough of that from the booth...
most of the time it is one driver from a multi car team that is having a good year. With Hendrick, all four cars are having a good year and that is very rare. Larson is the star at the present time. That can all change in a heartbeat the next race. IMO Bowman could have a better record than both Larson and Elliott, but as far as star power goes, Larson or Elliott would still get the lions share of the attention from the fans and the press. I get the fact that Bowman is a really good guy, what makes one driver more popular than the other is a mystery to me anyway.
That's why on race day I usually only come on here before the race, during commercials and after the race. It got to the point where it was just a waste of time because very few were actually discussing the race. Especially if there was a rain delay or any rain was in the forecast.
Are people supposed to act as if they are enjoying it? Like, fans can’t complain? LOL
I know I'm guilty of it. You'd think I would have learned by now when I go back and read the race thread on Monday or Tuesday and see things I said in the heat of the moment... Yet here I am, every week pressing "Post Reply." I really should make an effort to just comment on the action and scanner chatter.
Some complaining is normal and expected. But sometimes there are few that whines about the same things every weekend over and over non stop during the whole race and that can get a little annoying at times. But, I don't have to live with them and listen to it 24 hours a day...so I can handle it.
some of them convince themselves days before the race that it isn't going to be a good one and by gawd they can prove it. Last lap pass? teRriBle rAce, side by side racing? they aren't doing that fAsT enough.
Same B.S. every week, I usually don't play, but this week was ridiculous. It's an EXHIBITION race people, lighten up. Save the incessant whining for a real points paying race.
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I woudnt watch it if I was as miserable as some on here.
That is a good question, but one that none of us have anyway of knowing. But, I'm sure glad he did...and I imagine Hendrick is too.
I think I explained that pretty straight forward in my post #417.
That's a stretch of stretches. If it was that insufferable, then we wouldn't tune in. Loyalty to s sport is a thing, as is the expression of grief of what I assume is the racing that got some of us interested in NASCAR. And id wager that's what some of us are expressing here.
No statistically Elliot is clearly 2nd best. At times the 24 has shown more speed, but Chase has a win, is 3rd in the points, and has been just a bit better then Byron, imo
I'm glad you so eloquently answered that. I was like WTF?That is a good question, but one that none of us have anyway of knowing. But, I'm sure glad he did...and I imagine Hendrick is too.
I disagree. Some people are miserable with their lot in life and some of those like to spread their misery to others. Loyalty, I don't call it that, and the right to bitch about the same things every week is a form of insanity. The same ones every week. It's a way of life for some who take delight in being miserable. Comes with the territory around here. But the same whining that is said all year about a non points exhibition race? Save it for Pocono
I don't feel he is complaining as much as just shining the light on something that is very true and sometimes the truth isn't real pretty. The truth is, some people come here to discuss racing in a race thread and some people come here just to complain...and it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out which ones are which.
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Here is what Cup drivers had to say after the non-points race at Texas Motor Speedway.
Im not complaining about anything. Simply stated why I dont participate anymore. Carry on
Sometimes, people watch stuff hoping it turns out good. But I’ll keep in mind I have to praise NASCAR and can never ever say a single negative thing about them.
Great, you tell yourself that. At least we agree that it's not your problem, and out of your control. Thanks for sharing.
Laugh all you want, the speaking in absolutes that you guys do around here providing all of the screenshot material is what's truly laughable.
I rarely read the entire thread, so admitidly I miss out on some of that.
I've never said Larson is the top dog. I said he's the best talent on the team. Chase is #1 at HMS until Larson surpasses him in wins and wins a title.
we have to like everything NASCAR does. Remember we are fans and cant voice our displeasure over anything. NASCAR officials could come to my house in the middle of the night, round up my family and bash their heads in with baseball bats Negan style and I would have to be okay with it. No griping......did you get the memo!
I thought the last year or so its been cleaned up from those trollers and complainers. I feel everyone does a good job during the race thread of talking racing, busting balls and just having a good time. Its almost like if we watched the race in a bar all together. Who are these people that are complaining each week, is it time to name names? Because the posters that didnt like yesterday's race, hate the aero/hp package have made that clear in the past without taking a thread over ( at least when Ive been on a race thread) and are generally good posters that bring something to the discussion. My view is this place would be pretty damn boring if everyone liked the same thing, I think its okay to sometimes not like the product we are seeing. I've complimented it in the past, as well as just come out say I hated it AND made fun of it too. I dont think that makes what you would call a death bedder, or overtly negative. I think all the overtly negative posters that had an ax to grind have all been weeded out. I would even venture to say we have a good group here right now.
