Random NASCAR Stuff to talk about.....

Thegroundpounder99 said:
I don't defend Montoya very often....but I wouldn't know the difference either:)
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Not doing it right, it ain't about music.
Check out Taylor long legs Swift on the recent cover of Rolling Stone. She's old enough to start sweetTarting now and live up to her potential
 
Greg said:
Not doing it right, it ain't about music.
Check out Taylor long legs Swift on the recent cover of Rolling Stone. She's old enough to start sweetTarting now and live up to her potential
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She's banging a Kennedy in Hyannis. That'a s nice 401 k plan.
 
dpkimmel2001 said:
She's not on a short list there either. ;) Heck, some have even done it more than once in a single race.

Again, she just needs more practice to make it look like a racing incident. :D
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Perhaps she needs to work on the RACING part of that first. I've watched her run out of her line time and time again, costing other drivers spots. Someone needs to sit her down and make her understand the concept of 'holding your line' as part of gaining respect on the track.
 
dpkimmel2001 said:
What driver hasn't overreacted at some point? I just hope she learns how to dump someone better the next time. :cool:
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It's nothing that several Saturday nights at South Boston or Greenville-Pickens couldn't teach her. Of course, if she'd spent a little time in ARCA or Trucks instead of starting at the Triple-A level...

By the way, what's the time zone for these comments? Greenwich?
 
Maybe we should take a look at the success of a long line of ex indy car drivers who have tried to make the switch to Nascar . Most have been miserable failures.
 
AJ Allmendinger will drive the #51 Phoenix Racing Sprint Cup car Sunday at Martinsville Speedway. Allmendinger, who was suspended earlier this season for violating NASCAR's substance abuse policy, has driven the past two races at Charlotte and Kansas, where he finished 24th and 35th, respectively. General manager Steve Barkdoll said the decision to go with Allmendinger was based on how he has performed over the past two weeks. Barkdoll said it remains a race-by-race decision. He said Regan Smith would have been in the car for the rest of the year had he not been called on to replace Dale Earnhardt Jr. in the #88 the past two weeks. Barkdoll did not rule out the possibility that Smith could be in the car in two weeks at Texas. Earnhardt is awaiting word later Tuesday on whether he will be cleared to return from a concussion to race at Martinsville this weekend.(ESPN) (10-23-2012)
 
Charlie Spencer said:
Three words:

Foyt.
Andretti.
Stewart.

End of conversation.
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You bring up an excellent point . That would make a total of one in the modern era,out of what? A dozen or so?It is just a difficult transition from a totally different form of racing . Even for great drivers like Hornish, Montoya , Carpentier , Villeneuve,etc.,etc.
 
FenderBumper said:
One word:

Most.

The conversation continues. :D
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My mistake, I was trying to make the same point. There are only three really successful ones (and frankly, Foyt and Andretti weren't full time). 'Most' are indeed unsuccessful.

Hornish isn't doing too bad but it's taking him quite a while. Ditto for The Dinger. Robby Gordon would have been long gone except for running his own (mediocre) team. Franchitti; nuff said. John Andretti did better than most of these but was never a contender, and I don't think JPM is much better. Villenueve doesn't understand that 'rubbin is racin' doesn't mean bumper cars at the state fair. You'd think Scott Pruett's sports car skills might have translated, but but apparently not. Nelson Piquet is doing okay, but Trucks aren't Cup. I'm sure I'm missing a few; that alone indicates how successful they were.

Really, is there any name besides Tony's to toss around?
 
Christian Fittipaldi 16 starts avg finish 35.7 . And my fellow Canadian Paul Tracy ...nuff said.
 
Charlie Spencer said:
My mistake, I was trying to make the same point. There are only three really successful ones (and frankly, Foyt and Andretti weren't full time). 'Most' are indeed unsuccessful.

Hornish isn't doing too bad but it's taking him quite a while. Ditto for The Dinger. Robby Gordon would have been long gone except for running his own (mediocre) team. Franchitti; nuff said. John Andretti did better than most of these but was never a contender, and I don't think JPM is much better. You'd think Scott Pruett's sports car skills might have translated, but but apparently not. I'm sure I'm missing a few; that alone indicates how successful they were.

Really, is there any name besides Tony's to toss around?
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I agreed with your 3, I was just pointing out that most drivers who are successful in open wheel aren't in stock cars.

I've tried to imagine how hard it would be to adjust to a driving style that is so different, and this is why I think it's so damn hard to do in the modern era. Open wheelers now drive cars with huge grip and down force. So much so, sliding the tires is a huge no-no. They drive cars that can brake right thru turns at high speed, handling that allows you to be real agressive with the wheel, and a gas pedal you can really mash. Put on top the fact that rubbing anything is a huge mistake, and they are totally flucked when they jump in a low tech stock car.

Now they have to feather the brakes and gas, can't throw the car into a turn, and have to bang and bump for racing room. They are expected to slide the tires to keep their speed and flirt with the wall lap after lap. They have to unlearn everything that made them successful before they can even get started with being competitive. Poor Sam still hasn't gotten old habits out of his system, and often under brakes when there is trouble in front of him. He jumps on the gas and spins less often, but it's easy to see he has to actually think about things that used to come naturally.

Tony may be the last, because he stepped out of far less car and tire technology to race stock cars than Sam and some others do these days.
 
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