…just like Chase didn’t deserve to win Cup last year.
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Blaze
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That has nothing to do with what I’m talking about or what you asked. You asked if anyone but Larson winning would be legit. I pointed out if Larson ends up with a bad finish and Denny wins it could be. It’s close between them on non playoff points.
Blaze
The Midnight Rider
Or Kyle didn’t in 2015.
Correct. We’re making progress here.
Blaze
The Midnight Rider
Make up 30 points in one race? Only under this cartoon format.
Blaze
The Midnight Rider
So the way it would work. If Denny has a great day, and Larson has a poor one, he could easily make up 30. I’ll have to wait til after the race for the update to those points. But yes it’s mathematically possible.
Blaze
The Midnight Rider
Do you not like facts man? Did I say it was as realistically possible? No. I said mathematically possible.
its bullschit, man. Just admit it.
I’m a realist.
Blaze
The Midnight Rider
Well the real fact is, Larson could still lose the championship without the playoffs. Other than that I agree the playoffs suck. But doesn’t mean I don’t respect facts. Kyle or Denny are the only two who should have a chance to win.
So if Denny gets 1st and Larson finishes 2nd, Denny deserves the best driver of the year award? No, he doesn’t.
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That's rich coming from the guy who started this thread and constantly complains about current nascar!
Blaze
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I have not once said that, not once. Again, I said it’s not a lock for Kyle under the old system. He could still lose it. He finishes good then it 100% would be his. But a wreck or some problems for Larson and he would likely lose in the full season also
Fortunately I don’t give a **** what you think.
So if he finishes 2nd he deserves to lose the championship.
Blaze
The Midnight Rider
Are you not reading? I don’t think you’re reading.
Terry Labonte only won two races in each of his championship years. Was he a legitimate champion?
StandOnIt
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He has plenty of company around here. Leaves me scratching my head most days. Misery loves company I guess.
racingfan7
Start and Park
Yep.
Mile501
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...or even worse, one debris caution.
Nitro Dude
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Mile501
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There are many other things NASCAR could do to virtually ensure that things come down to the final race. A few ideas:
- Stick with season-long points but award double, triple, or even quadruple points for the races towards the end of the season. (The last race is effectively worth 36x more points now, so that would still be a significant improvement.)
- Have a 3 or 4-race final round between the top 4 drivers. Include the toughest tracks like Darlington, Martinsville, a road course, and maybe one more. At least the champion would have to make it to the final round, then prove himself on some of the most challenging tracks.
- If we absolutely must come down to 1 race, reset the top 4 drivers' points to 5000 + the number of wins that season (or 5000 + wins + top 5s). That would give a slight advantage to whoever has had the best season, but they'd still have to race hard.
Those are just a few ideas; you may have others. The point is, NASCAR could be much more creative with this process to make it both fair and exciting. Unfortunately, I doubt that they're interested in doing so.
- Stick with season-long points but award double, triple, or even quadruple points for the races towards the end of the season. (The last race is effectively worth 36x more points now, so that would still be a significant improvement.)
- Have a 3 or 4-race final round between the top 4 drivers. Include the toughest tracks like Darlington, Martinsville, a road course, and maybe one more. At least the champion would have to make it to the final round, then prove himself on some of the most challenging tracks.
- If we absolutely must come down to 1 race, reset the top 4 drivers' points to 5000 + the number of wins that season (or 5000 + wins + top 5s). That would give a slight advantage to whoever has had the best season, but they'd still have to race hard.
Those are just a few ideas; you may have others. The point is, NASCAR could be much more creative with this process to make it both fair and exciting. Unfortunately, I doubt that they're interested in doing so.
Mile501
Team Owner
I just researched this stat and the results surprised me. This hasn't really changed regardless of the format used.
Number of times the driver with the most wins won the championship:
1-Race Playoff [2014-2021]: 3/8 seasons (38%)
10-Race Chase [2004-2013]: 4/10 seasons (40%)
Full Season [1994-2003]: 4/10 seasons (40%)
Full Season [1984-1993]: 4/10 seasons (40%)
Number of times the driver with the most wins won the championship:
1-Race Playoff [2014-2021]: 3/8 seasons (38%)
10-Race Chase [2004-2013]: 4/10 seasons (40%)
Full Season [1994-2003]: 4/10 seasons (40%)
Full Season [1984-1993]: 4/10 seasons (40%)
racingfan7
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What’s the data for Xfinity and Trucks
Nitro Dude
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Then why have you spent so much time trying to convince him?Fortunately I don’t give a **** what you think.